Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[sptrawler]

First thing I hear this morning is that the deal is already falling apart .U.S now say they aren't going to fully suspend war games with South Korea and there's no verification process for determining if North Korea is disarming.
They say this is the fifth of these such agreements which have previously been broken.

What, they are going to lose the slave labour?

 

[Darc Knight]

What, they are going to lose the slave labour?

Sometimes life is so unfair hey!

 

[ilex.com.au]

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[sptrawler]

At last some reporters, are starting to state the obvious, about the Trump hating press and naysayers.

https://thewest.com.au/opinion/paul...k-at-what-happened-in-singapore-ng-b88867500z

It is about time the fools were taken to task, constantly bagging Trump, doesn't hide the fact he is getting America moving. It is just a typical display of the tall poppy syndrome,someone going out on a limb and saying it as it is, should be applauded not derided.
Tisme summed up the press pretty well in his post.
The journos are peeved because they have spent years building contact networks, compromised govt members and concocted news that even Presidents have duly responded to defensively.

 

[IFocus]

Yeah how can anyone criticize Trump is beyond me.......dividing the US will be great for the future, tarfits on nations that have a trade deficit with the US sheer genus, breaking alliances with western allies forged to stop future wars brilliant.

Lock him up the man is just a criminal.

 

[wayneL]

Yeah how can anyone criticize Trump is beyond me.......dividing the US will be great for the future, tarfits on nations that have a trade deficit with the US sheer genus, breaking alliances with western allies forged to stop future wars brilliant.

Lock him up the man is just a criminal.

What a biased load of piffle...

The US has been taking it up the 455 for so long on all those issues for so long, the left are no longer able to even think remotely critically.

Analysis bro, use your brain.

 

[SirRumpole]

What a biased load of piffle...

The US has been taking it up the 455 for so long on all those issues for so long, the left are no longer able to even think remotely critically.

Analysis bro, use your brain.

The US has an unemployment rate of about 3.8% which is about as low as you can get in a free enterprise economy.

So much for foreigners taking all the jobs.

Analyse that.

 

[sptrawler]

Yeah how can anyone criticize Trump is beyond me.......dividing the US will be great for the future, tarfits on nations that have a trade deficit with the US sheer genus, breaking alliances with western allies forged to stop future wars brilliant.

Lock him up the man is just a criminal.

Would they be the allies, who have either just paid off what they owed for the last war?
Or would it be the allies, that paid nothing for the last war and don't pay much now?

 

[Darc Knight]

Aren't most of the people posting in this thread at least middle age? Aren't you aware of all the associates of Trump who have come forward to detail his thoroughly unethical nature. From his self described childhood as a Bully, to his not paying contractors, his lying to promote his business, his predatorial behaviour in business. His rape of his ex wife Ivana and numerous sexual assualts. The failed attempt to control Boxing and destroying Mike Tyson in the process. The list is endless.
That's the problem most informed people have with Trump, his unethical nature and past.
He's a documentary with plenty of brave ex associates who have come forward

 

[sptrawler]

Aren't most of the people posting in this thread at least middle age? Aren't you aware of all the associates of Trump who have come forward to detail his thoroughly unethical nature. From his self described childhood as a Bully, to his not paying contractors, his lying to promote his business, his predatorial behaviour in business. His rape of his ex wife Ivana and numerous sexual assualts. The failed attempt to control Boxing and destroying Mike Tyson in the process. The list is endless.
That's the problem most informed people have with Trump, his unethical nature and past.
He's a documentary with plenty of brave ex associates who have come forward

Probably most people on here are over middle aged, that is probably why we don't get caught up in the warm feel good politically correct stuff.
I'm not discussing Trump, with regard him marrying my daughter, or being whether I want him to be my BFF if that is what they say, I just want somebody to sort the $hit out.
This is serious, in the U.S.A term deposits in 2017, were getting 0.09% on savings, that's not good in a capitalist system.
Obama did nothing to sort the stalled monetary system, because he didn't want to confront the reality, the U.S is the biggest market place in the Western World it has to get moving.
The reality is China has linked it currency to the U.S currency, and won't float it, which means their product automatically undercuts the U.S product.
So after 10 years of begging China to play the game, Trump gets in and says FFluck it, if you won't play the game neither will we.
The problem China has, is they still haven't moved their whole economy over to first World, so still need to sell a lot of gear.
The U.S is still the biggest market place, but even the Chinese would prefer to buy made in Japan or made in U.S or made in Germany, than made in China.
So Trump has called their bluff, you want a trade war fine, bring it on and see your factories close, because no one will buy Chinese if they can buy anything else.
Or else get in the game and float you currency, which the Chinese don't want to do because they got burnt badly in the GFC by having a $hit load of U.S bonds.
They would prefer the World to move away from a currency based on the $US, which is understandable, because the U.S caused the GFC and saved themselves by devaluing their $US, which in turn made all other currencies higher and their exports more expensive.

I know it is a bit long winded, but I've been away for three months, so I'm starved of political debate. lol
I'm back, great holiday, fully recharged and ready to roll.

Therefore Darc Knight, why would you send Cinderalla into a street fight, I would rather send in Mike Tyson.
That is why Turnbull is in, Australia hadn't got to 0.09% interest, so they didn't like Abbott.
If we had got there Abbott would still be in. lol

 

[Darc Knight]

Probably most people on here are over middle aged, that is probably why we don't get caught up in the warm feel good politically correct stuff.
I'm not discussing Trump, with regard him marrying my daughter, or being whether I want him to be my BFF if that is what they say, I just want somebody to sort the $hit out.
This is serious, in the U.S.A term deposits in 2017, were getting 0.09% on savings, that's not good in a capitalist system.
Obama did nothing to sort the stalled monetary system, because he didn't want to confront the reality, the U.S is the biggest market place in the Western World it has to get moving.
The reality is China has linked it currency to the U.S currency, and won't float it, which means their product automatically undercuts the U.S product.
So after 10 years of begging China to play the game, Trump gets in and says FFluck it, if you won't play the game neither will we.
The problem China has, is they still haven't moved their whole economy over to first World, so still need to sell a lot of gear.
The U.S is still the biggest market place, but even the Chinese would prefer to buy made in Japan or made in U.S or made in Germany, than made in China.
So Trump has called their bluff, you want a trade war fine, bring it on and see your factories close, because no one will buy Chinese if they can buy anything else.
Or else get in the game and float you currency, which the Chinese don't want to do because they got burnt badly in the GFC by having a $hit load of U.S bonds.
They would prefer the World to move away from a currency based on the $US, which is understandable, because the U.S caused the GFC and saved themselves by devaluing their $US, which in turn made all other currencies higher and their exports more expensive.

I know it is a bit long winded, but I've been away for three months, so I'm starved of political debate. lol
I'm back, great holiday, fully recharged and ready to roll.

Therefore Darc Knight, why would you send Cinderalla into a street fight, I would rather send in Mike Tyson.
That is why Turnbull is in, Australia hadn't got to 0.09% interest, so they didn't like Abbott.
If we had got there Abbott would still be in. lol

I agree that on some things Trump does have a subset of skills which are good for dealing with some circumstances, but overall I dont think he has the character and broader understanding to be President.
Trump is a master of smoke n mirrors, and B.S. We need to look beyond the surface with everything he does, as we need to with every dodegy person out there.

P.S. you wouldn't want to have Trump as a BFF??? Imagine all the inside information he would be able to pass on to you. You, along with his Family would be making a fortune.

 

[IFocus]

What a biased load of piffle...

The US has been taking it up the 455 for so long on all those issues for so long, the left are no longer able to even think remotely critically.

Analysis bro, use your brain.

Still in that echo chamber left/right has nothing to do with US foreign policy.......nothing.

US foreign policy dogma has been consistent for over 70+ years for good reason.

The world owns the US nothing it has only ever acted in its own interest which has benefited the US and the western world because it benefits the US.

No culture has dominated the world more than the US.

No country has made the wealth the US has ever.

Trump is a short term disaster disrupting this trend.

Trump is a criminal.........lock him up (love that saying might get a tee shirt )

 

[sptrawler]

Still in that echo chamber left/right has nothing to do with US foreign policy.......nothing.

US foreign policy dogma has been consistent for over 70+ years for good reason.

The world owns the US nothing it has only ever acted in its own interest which has benefited the US and the western world because it benefits the US.

No culture has dominated the world more than the US.

No country has made the wealth the US has ever.

Trump is a short term disaster disrupting this trend.

Trump is a criminal.........lock him up (love that saying might get a tee shirt )

Yes, until the next time, we need them to save our ar$e.

 

[basilio]

Still in that echo chamber left/right has nothing to do with US foreign policy.......nothing.

US foreign policy dogma has been consistent for over 70+ years for good reason.

The world owns the US nothing it has only ever acted in its own interest which has benefited the US and the western world because it benefits the US.

No culture has dominated the world more than the US.

No country has made the wealth the US has ever.

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Right on. I would have thought the domination of the US economically and politically around the world and the value this returned the country was obvious. Trying to screw the rest of the world tighter and tighter to extract even more rent is not going to be a good look.

 

[SirRumpole]

Right on. I would have thought the domination of the US economically and politically around the world and the value this returned the country was obvious. Trying to screw the rest of the world tighter and tighter to extract even more rent is not going to be a good look.

Might be good for Australia though, if the US is having trade wars with China and Europe then we can fill in some gaps in those markets.

 

[sptrawler]

Right on. I would have thought the domination of the US economically and politically around the world and the value this returned the country was obvious. Trying to screw the rest of the world tighter and tighter to extract even more rent is not going to be a good look.

Well we could tell them to sod off and wing it, maybe China would be nicer to us? Who knows?
But I know, from reading history and listening to my parents, when push came to shove it was the U.S that stopped the inevitable, like it or not.
I'm not saying we need to cow tow to any one, but you should be careful who you tell to get Flucked. IMO
Everyone is full of bravado and invincibility, until the $hit hits the fan, then they fold like a pack of cards.
People are so predictable, follow the sound, not the substance. LOL
It's like most fights in life, everyone backs you, until the real fight starts, then you find your real friends.
There are plenty of supporters, until it gets serious, then it becomes "I never said that". Lol
The world is full of would be's, if they could be's, it is really sad. IMO

 

[PZ99]

Yes, until the next time, we need them to save our ar$e.

... whether we like it or not

 

[Knobby22]

Might be good for Australia though, if the US is having trade wars with China and Europe then we can fill in some gaps in those markets.

They will strike a deal and you know who the loser from the deal will be.

 

[basilio]

The big news in the US at the moment is Trumps decision to separate children from their families at borders. Coping serious flak from all quarters. And as usual, all based on lies...

The past 72 hours in outrage over Trump’s immigrant family separation policy, explained

Children are being kept in cages. Parents are being deported without their kids. Trump is wrongly blaming Democrats.

The Trump administration’s policy of separating children from their parents who seek asylum in the United States by crossing the border illegally has sparked outrage across the country — and it reached a fever pitch over the weekend.

We got a glimpse of the cages kids are being kept in, read heart-wrenching stories of families being separated, and watched the Trump camp try to toss the political football of culpability to others.

President Trump tweeted Monday morning that the situation is Democrats’ fault for being “weak and ineffective” with border security and crime and said it’s time to “change the laws.” But this claim simply makes no sense. Contrary to what Trump seems to be implying, there was no preexisting law requiring family separation, and what’s happening at the border doesn’t have anything to do with Democrats — it’s a decision the Trump administration has made.

The administration recently implemented a “zero-tolerance” policy that includes separating children from their parents as they try to enter the United States seeking asylum at the US border, in what some say is an attempt to deter other potential migrants from making the same decision. The policy has sent shock waves around the country, igniting outrage on the part of immigration advocates, human rights groups, and citizens across the political spectrum.

And the situation has the potential to get much worse: The Washington Examiner reported on Monday that the Trump administration could wind up holding some 30,000 illegal immigrant children by the end of the summer, citing a senior administration official with the Department of Health and Human Services. The HHS official told the publication 11,500 children were already being held.

Here’s an overview of what’s happened in the past 72 hours.
We got a look at where children are being kept. It’s in cages.
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/18/17475292/family-separation-border-immigration-policy-trump

 

[SirRumpole]

The past 72 hours in outrage over Trump’s immigrant family separation policy, explained

Yep, not a good look alright.

Maybe the US should just buy Mexico, then there wouldn't be any border problem.