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Read the sequence of events chaps, there was no prejudicial conduct.

As far as his delivery, who else would have elicited this reaction in support... Nobody.

It's sometimes confronting, but it's necessary imo.
 
Read the sequence of events chaps, there was no prejudicial conduct.
Errrmm. Not based upon what I could discern from the contents of his own video. (However, I don't have the full set of facts, just fragmented pieces of a much larger picture.)
As far as his delivery, who else would have elicited this reaction in support... Nobody.

It's sometimes confronting, but it's necessary imo.
I fear you may well be correct in this observation. Sadly, dire situations, do at times demand commensurate responses.

Could this be the start of the collision, necessary for the awakening of a populace, from having been too long asleep at the wheel?
 
Cynic,

As I understand it, TR only reported facts already available via MSM, as such repeating what was already available, reading from their website.

I also believe that the actual trial process was completed and the session involved sentencing only. I stand to be corrected there however.

I would caution (as I am myself) forming strong opinions until the facts are fully known.
 
Could this be the start of the collision, necessary for the awakening of a populace, from having been too long asleep at the wheel?

I think its a good example of how the religious right operate when they get positions of power.
 
Cynic,

As I understand it, TR only reported facts already available via MSM, as such repeating what was already available, reading from their website.

I also believe that the actual trial process was completed and the session involved sentencing only. I stand to be corrected there however.

I would caution (as I am myself) forming strong opinions until the facts are fully known.
According to this article, contrary to Tommy's claim, the trials were still ongoing:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ooming-trial-edl-founder-latest-a8368821.html

So I suppose it might come down to a question of which of the parties (TR, court officials, media) is truly misinformed, and how this misinformation eventuated.(Or perhaps I am crediting the responsible party/ies with more rationality than is actually merited.)
 
Cynic,

As I understand it, TR only reported facts already available via MSM, as such repeating what was already available, reading from their website.

I also believe that the actual trial process was completed and the session involved sentencing only. I stand to be corrected there however.

I would caution (as I am myself) forming strong opinions until the facts are fully known.

No, trails are still ongoing in relation to some defendants, and apparently the entire case may now need to be re trialed.


And apparently he has plead guilty to the charges, so he has accepted he did the wrong thing.

He is now serving 13 months.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5782667/EDL-founder-Tommy-Robinson-jailed-13-months.html
 
BBC Article

Ex-EDL leader Tommy Robinson jailed at Leeds court
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Media captionTommy Robinson was arrested outside Leeds Crown Court
Former English Defence League (EDL) leader Tommy Robinson has been jailed for potentially prejudicing a court case, it can be reported.

Robinson, who appeared in the dock under real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, was arrested in Leeds on Friday.

The 35-year-old was broadcasting on social media outside the city's crown court where a trial was ongoing.

A ban on reporting his 13-month sentence at the same court was lifted after being challenged by the media.

Robinson, from Bedfordshire, pleaded guilty to a charge of contempt of court.

A judge told him his actions could cause the ongoing trial to be re-run, costing "hundreds and hundreds of thousands of pounds".

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Image captionTommy Robinson founded the EDL in 2009 but quit the group in 2013
In footage which was played to the court on Friday, Robinson was seen filming himself and people involved in the trial.

The court heard how the footage, which supposedly lasted around an hour, had been watched 250,000 times within hours of being posted online via Facebook.

During Friday's hearing, Matthew Harding, defending, claimed that his client had "deep regret" for what he had done.

"He was mindful, having spoken to others and taken advice, not to say things that he thought would actually prejudice these proceedings," Mr Harding said.

"He did not try to cause difficulties for the court process."

Judge Geoffrey Marson QC said: "Not only was it a very long video, but I regard it as a serious aggravating feature that he was encouraging others to share it and it had been shared widely.

"That is the nature of the contempt."

Why contempt of court matters?
By Dominic Casciani, BBC home affairs correspondent

Contempt of court is the crime of ignoring the court and its constitutional role in making sure that justice is done.

Robinson was convicted of contempt for interfering with a trial in Canterbury.

His attempts to film defendants on that occasion could, the judge said, have "prejudiced" the jury, leading to an unfair verdict - and he was warned he'd go to jail if he did anything remotely similar again.

Why couldn't we initially report Robinson's arrest and jailing? Reporting restrictions are a long-standing part of the British legal system. In this case, the judge ordered a temporary media black-out because he feared reporting Robinson's conviction could influence the jury in the very case Robinson was targeting.

This is not some new form of censorship directed at Robinson. These are rules that apply to us all, equally. If he is unsure about that, he's now got time on his hands to read a copy of Essential Law for Journalists.

Robinson was already subject to a suspended sentence for a contempt charge related to a separate case in Canterbury.

The judge had warned him then he should expect to go to prison if he committed further offences.

Robinson was given 10 months in jail for contempt of court, and a further three months for breaching the previous suspended sentence.

Judge Geoffrey Marson QC initially imposed restrictions for fear that reporting his arrest would prejudice an ongoing trial.

Following the arrest there were protests outside Downing Street over the weekend.

Robinson founded the far-right EDL in 2009.

It became known for its street marches and demonstrations in towns and cities before he quit the group in 2013.
 
Article by Latham reflecting how Whitlam Labor has shifted to a different stage:

WHITE FLIGHT: THE TRUTH THAT LABOR DARE NOT SPEAK

Mark Latham’s Tuesday Column

In the Middle Ages, society had a long list of taboo terms, usually associated with witchcraft. In today’s politics, the Medieval Left has found it hard to shake off this habit.

Last week it added a new phrase to its vocabulary of banned words: ‘white flight’. The PC Lords have decreed that no Labor Party member shall use this expression, lest they be burnt at the stake.

The party’s NSW Leader, Luke Foley, has narrowly escaped incineration. He mentioned the verboten phrase once in an interview with Sydney’s Daily Telegraph.

So far, his punishment has been public humiliation, having been forced to back down and apologise. In the dock of this modern-day Salem, he has promised to never again allow his lips to move in a way that configures the words ‘white flight’.

He can say ‘white male privilege’ or ‘whitesplaining’, most certainly – those terms are encouraged in Sussex Street, Salem. But not ‘white flight’.

Foley needs to understand how, for today’s Left, white is the new black. The things racists and rednecks used to say about black people are now being said repetitively about whites.

In fact, you are not a real Leftie unless you publicly denigrate white skin colour, especially if your own skin is a lighter shade of Dulux Hog Bristle. It’s the ultimate in self-flagellation – another Medieval ritual.

Poor Luke, the force has deserted him. Censorship is strong.

If Foley had said there was too much racist ‘black attack’ in Australia he would have been hailed as a Labor hero. Instead, he’s hanging onto his leadership by the skin of his light-sabre.

The serious side of this controversy highlights everything that’s gone wrong with the Left. It has made a lot of noise recently complaining about Donald Trump and a ‘post-truth world’.

Yet when it comes to settlement patterns in Sydney, the ALP and Greens refuse to accept the essential truth of white flight. Foley has been denounced as a heretic, even though he was talking about realities in his own Western Sydney seat of Auburn.

Decades of geographically concentrated low-skill immigration have been a recipe for welfare dependency, street crime and ethnic enclaves in the arc of suburbs extending from Bankstown to Auburn and Parramatta and then south to Fairfield. Traditional Australian-born families have looked at this trend and moved to Sydney’s urban fringe for a better life, especially for their children.

Areas that were majority Australian-born two decades ago have dropped to one-third indigenous (if I can use that word in its original and best form). Suburbs like Merrylands and Guildford, places of working class pride in the 1980s, are now more closely associated with Middle Eastern crime gangs and drive-by shootings.

What kind of homeowner would see these things happening in their street and not cash-in their asset, moving to new housing and a quieter life in the outer suburbs? White flight has another, far more important name: responsible parenting.

I first talked about this phenomenon 20 years ago as the Member for Werriwa. As with Foley, the Left tried to howl me down, unsuccessfully of course.

As a young man, I sat at the feet of Gough Whitlam, who said that ethnic enclaves were the antithesis of his vision for multiculturalism. Gough wanted a blended society in which, looking down the street, an Aussie lived next door to an Italian, and then an Asian, and then a South American, and then some more Aussies, more Europeans and so forth.

Everyone would speak English, building an integrated community by getting to know one’s neighbours and sharing in the best of their culture. This is an ideal I still support, building the good society through trust and cooperation.

When I first spoke about white flight in the 1990s, various academic elites climbed out of their coffee shops to say I didn’t know what I was talking about. They can’t say that now, the evidence is in.

In condemning Foley, they have fallen back on PC notions of ‘offense’. It’s not proper to talk this way. It might upset someone. Even if white flight is real, no one should mention it in case the Punchbowl-Lakemba Islamic Community Association in Tony Burke’s electorate complains.

They would rather shoot the messenger. This is what Labor has become: an anti-intellectual, truth-denying, politically correct hovel that finds it easier to ignore social problems than solve them.

Instead of supporting Whitlam’s concept of multiculturalism, they have betrayed it. They have no objection to welfare-reliant enclaves, as long as the people living there vote Labor and join in ethnic branch stacking.

This is bad for the country and bad for the migrants being left to wallow in sinkhole suburbs. It has also eroded the public’s faith in multiculturalism. The policy sounded fine in theory but it hasn’t translated well into the lived reality of Western Sydney.

How can anyone look at what happened to Foley last week and remain a member of the Labor Party? The best thing I ever did in public life was to speak honestly about social problems and leave the Australian Labor movement and its Medieval culture behind.

29 May 2018
 
With a bit of luck, we can tune out the extremists on both sides and land some where in the middle.

Looking from the middle though, those described as "right" tend to be speaking more nonsense that those on the left, so I tend to lean left, not saying that the extreme left doesn't have crazies to.
God, I feel the opposite. Left post or say whatever shite, to push their agenda. Even the so called moderates. They are all hive minded.
Just look at the media turning half truths into stories.
 
You seemed to have missed the point that he wasn't in fact interfering at all.

This is why there are demonstrations all over the world regarding this.

Before commenting, you should really acquaint yourself with the facts VC, so you can make valid points, not add to the convenient Apocrypha.

Have you adjusted your opinion on this yet?

Do you still think he wasn't interfering?

I know you claimed I should have acquaint myself with the facts but it seems that my reading of the subject was not to far off the mark, and it was you that was reading the situation wrong.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-30/far-right-activist-tommy-robinson-jailed/9814524
 

That was an excellent summary of why Stephen Lennon was so quickly charged, convicted and jailed for contempt of court. And it was the Mail! Wonders will never cease.

He has possibly/probably caused a mistrial which could result in a whole new set of costs and trauma. He has already had a big warning about previous reporting actions which were in contempt of court.

So he just does it again - because :

1) He wants to stick a couple of fingers up at the courts
2) He is too stupid to understand contempt of court laws even when he has had them explained in detail and given a suspended sentence
3) He is an amazingly brave patriot who will do everything he can to save England from the Islamic barbarians and if necessary die with a smile on lips defending the one true white Motherland.

What a man..:speechless:
 
What happens when firebands like Stephen Lennon trash Muslim communities ? What message do his listeners receive ? What could be the consequences?

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The outgoing counter-terrorism police chief said on Tuesday said there was “no doubt” that far-right material posted online by Mr Robinson drove Osborne to target Muslims.

“He had grown to hate Muslims largely due his consumption of large amounts of online far-right material including, as evidenced at court, statements from former EDL leader Tommy Robinson, Britain First and others,” he told an event in London.

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Finsbury Park suspect ‘read Tommy Robinson messages’ before attack

“Osborne had a ‘dysfunctional’ background and history of alcohol and drug abuse, and violence.

“There can be no doubt that the extremist rhetoric he consumed fed into his vulnerabilities and turned it into violence.”

Osborne, a father-of-four from Wales, was radicalised in a period of weeks in which he consumed far-right material.

He hired a van and intended to massacre pro-Palestinian activists, but a security perimeter forced him to seek an alternative target.

Osborne rammed the vehicle into a crowd of Muslim worshippers leaving mosques in Finsbury Park shortly after midnight on 19 June, killing a grandfather and injuring several others.

Mr Rowley also told the Policy Exchange four far-right terror plots had been foiled since the Isis-inspired Westminster attack in March last year.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...find-uk-islamophobia-racist-edl-a8231286.html
 
He has possibly/probably caused a mistrial which could result in a whole new set of costs and trauma. He has already had a big warning about previous reporting actions which were in contempt of court.

Yes, and the Irony of the situation is, everybody assumes that he is innocent and being unfairly teated by an overbearing Orwellian government, when the government is the one trying to maintain everybody's rights to a fair trial, and he is the being overbearing and trying to subvert justice.

3) He is an amazingly brave patriot

Patriotism is overrated, and often misdirected.
 
The interesting thing about "fake" news, is how easily it slips under the radar of those sharing the opinion reported, and yet is so very quickly "recognised" as fake, by those subscribing to a contrary viewpoint.

Consequently, occupants of each exteme, of an opinion spectrum, will likely recognise more "fake" news issuing from their polar opposite.
 
And you think this is happening more on the left side of things?

As far as I can see the fake news stuff if overwhelmingly coming from the right.
Depends where you are standing..... I see leftist propaganda in movies, news and majority of media. Look at the amount of stories on trump alone. University is ground zero for zealots. People just sprout the worst siht they hear, no matter if it is true or not.

Truthful stories matter more now then ever. You can see the polarization between left and right. The right is finally starting to mobilize and it is a concern fact based discussion and mutual respect will fracture.

I pi$s take and troll a lot of lefties here but I have learnt a lot from them. In fact those I generally disagree with the most, are the ones I learn the most from. Bas, Lut, Ifocus, socyn, rumpole and all you other leftards that kept me in check.

I know I can lean heavily to the right. I also know I need to keep an open mind to the other side (which I find increasingly difficult lately). Its easy to block different or difficult opinions. But it should be heard, discussed, debated - rationally.

Because once I understand the left mindset. I do believe....I could finally take over the world and push you all into my human ovens and set it on bake.
 
Because once I understand the left mindset. I do believe....I could finally take over the world and push you all into my human ovens and set it on bake.

That's a pretty disgusting comment Mein Fuhrer for which I hope you roast in your own personal hell, and does more than anything to mark you as an extremist lunatic.
 
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