Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[SirRumpole]

You are entitled to your view, Tink.

If you are pro Donald Trump and are happy to endorse his evils in the name of religious freedom that's fine with me.

He ain't my master

It's interesting how people are willing to forgive a wide range of sins and latch on to one thing about a person that appeals to them.

Without wanting to invoke Godwin's law, that how tyrants rise to power.

 

[Tink]

As I have said, our country has a Christian heritage.
The Lord's Prayer is in Parliament and the preamble is Almighty God.

Whether we are black, white, we are all --

Ladies and Gentlemen.

This is my view.
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Faith - Family - Truth - Freedom.

 

[Junior]

As I have said, our country has a Christian heritage.
The Lord's Prayer is in Parliament and the preamble is Almighty God.

Whether we are black, white, we are all --

Ladies and Gentlemen.

This is my view.
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Faith - Family - Truth - Freedom.

Except this guy. I doubt he's every been described as a gentlemen.

 

[wayneL]

The Trump haters forget what the alternative was... also based on ideological grounds I guess.

 

[wayneL]

Trump hating is also largely a manifestation of uncritical and pathological virtue signalling.

 

[SirRumpole]

The Trump haters forget what the alternative was... also based on ideological grounds I guess.

And she would be worse because ?

 

[Junior]

Trump hating is also largely a manifestation of uncritical and pathological virtue signalling.

Or perhaps just the realisation that he is an all-round rotten and unpleasant guy, who lacks the intelligence, demeanour and relevant experience required for the job.

I'm not a Hilary fan, but she didn't get the job, so I don't see the point in discussing whether she theoretically would have been better or worse than Trump.

 

[PZ99]

Trump hating is also largely a manifestation of uncritical and pathological virtue signalling.

Trump worshiping is a manifestation of blind faith divorced from reality epitomised by name calling of anyone who dares to disagree with him of his followers.

 

[wayneL]

Or perhaps just the realisation that he is an all-round rotten and unpleasant guy, who lacks the intelligence, demeanour and relevant experience required for the job.

I'm not a Hilary fan, but she didn't get the job, so I don't see the point in discussing whether she theoretically would have been better or worse than Trump.

That's not very analytical Jr. And really does nothing to alleviate my suspicions of a raging bias.

 

[wayneL]

Trump worshiping is a manifestation of blind faith divorced from reality epitomised by name calling of anyone who dares to disagree with him of his followers.

Trump has clear faults, but an argumentative fallacy there methinks.

Don't see any Trump "worshippers" on this forum.

 

[SirRumpole]

Don't see any Trump "worshippers" on this forum.

Besides yourself ?

 

[wayneL]

Dumb comment bro

 

[PZ99]

Trump has clear faults, but an argumentative fallacy there methinks.

Don't see any Trump "worshippers" on this forum.

Don't see any "haters" here either.

 

[luutzu]

Russia warns any U.S. missiles fired at Syria will be shot down

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Russia has warned that any U.S. missiles fired at Syria over a suspected chemical weapons attack on a rebel enclave would be shot down and the launch sites targeted, raising the possibility of a U.S.-Russian confrontation.

Issuing the warning on Tuesday evening, the Russian ambassador to Lebanon also said such a clash should be avoided and Moscow was ready for negotiations. But his remarks could raise fears of direct conflict for the first time between major powers backing opposing sides in Syria’s protracted civil war.

Moscow and Washington sparred at the United Nations on Tuesday over the use of chemical weapons in Syria as Washington and its allies considered whether to strike at Syrian government forces over the alleged poison gas assault.

At least 60 people were killed in Saturday’s suspected chemical weapons attack on the town of Douma, Syrian relief workers said. An estimated 500 people were being treated for “symptoms consistent with exposure to toxic chemicals”, the World Health Organization said on Wednesday.

The Syrian government and Russia say the reports are bogus. The Kremlin said on Wednesday it hoped all sides involved in Syria would avoid doing anything that could destabilize an already fragile situation in the Middle East, and made clear it strongly opposed any U.S. strike on its ally.

After the attack, the rebel group holed up in Douma - Jaish al-Islam - finally agreed to withdraw from the town. That sealed a big victory for President Bashar al-Assad, who has now crushed the rebellion in the eastern Ghouta region near Damascus. .......
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ired-at-syria-will-be-shot-down-idUSKBN1HI1BY

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So. Trump wants to pull the US out of Syria... I didn't think they're supposed to, officially, be in Syria but anyway...

When Trump the president tweet and rally that the US should withdraw, funny how Assad and the Russian decided to go gas people with chemical weapons, forcing the US to stay in again.

I don't know who committed that and not picking sides here, but doesn't it seem suspicious? This is the second time it happened. The last time Trump sent some 70+ Tomahawk into Syria.

It just doesn't make sense for Russia/Assad to do chemical warfare when not doing it kill just as many and also not give Trump and the US any excuse to stay. Not that you'd need an excuse to liberate people and bring democracy and stuff whether they like it or not.

But now that Russia is warning that it will shoot both the missile/s and target the base from which it came... is Trump going to test their words and slap them across the face.

As long as this doesn't go nuclear, Beijing is definitely laughing their way to total hemispheric domination of Asia.

It might be like the European powers during WWI and WWII... all fighting each other while Uncle Sam keep watch and industrialise. Then join the party a bit late and take all the loots in the aftermath.

 

[moXJO]

Russia warns any U.S. missiles fired at Syria will be shot down

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Russia has warned that any U.S. missiles fired at Syria over a suspected chemical weapons attack on a rebel enclave would be shot down and the launch sites targeted, raising the possibility of a U.S.-Russian confrontation.

Issuing the warning on Tuesday evening, the Russian ambassador to Lebanon also said such a clash should be avoided and Moscow was ready for negotiations. But his remarks could raise fears of direct conflict for the first time between major powers backing opposing sides in Syria’s protracted civil war.

Moscow and Washington sparred at the United Nations on Tuesday over the use of chemical weapons in Syria as Washington and its allies considered whether to strike at Syrian government forces over the alleged poison gas assault.

At least 60 people were killed in Saturday’s suspected chemical weapons attack on the town of Douma, Syrian relief workers said. An estimated 500 people were being treated for “symptoms consistent with exposure to toxic chemicals”, the World Health Organization said on Wednesday.

The Syrian government and Russia say the reports are bogus. The Kremlin said on Wednesday it hoped all sides involved in Syria would avoid doing anything that could destabilize an already fragile situation in the Middle East, and made clear it strongly opposed any U.S. strike on its ally.

After the attack, the rebel group holed up in Douma - Jaish al-Islam - finally agreed to withdraw from the town. That sealed a big victory for President Bashar al-Assad, who has now crushed the rebellion in the eastern Ghouta region near Damascus. .......
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ired-at-syria-will-be-shot-down-idUSKBN1HI1BY

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So. Trump wants to pull the US out of Syria... I didn't think they're supposed to, officially, be in Syria but anyway...

When Trump the president tweet and rally that the US should withdraw, funny how Assad and the Russian decided to go gas people with chemical weapons, forcing the US to stay in again.

I don't know who committed that and not picking sides here, but doesn't it seem suspicious? This is the second time it happened. The last time Trump sent some 70+ Tomahawk into Syria.

It just doesn't make sense for Russia/Assad to do chemical warfare when not doing it kill just as many and also not give Trump and the US any excuse to stay. Not that you'd need an excuse to liberate people and bring democracy and stuff whether they like it or not.

But now that Russia is warning that it will shoot both the missile/s and target the base from which it came... is Trump going to test their words and slap them across the face.

As long as this doesn't go nuclear, Beijing is definitely laughing their way to total hemispheric domination of Asia.

It might be like the European powers during WWI and WWII... all fighting each other while Uncle Sam keep watch and industrialise. Then join the party a bit late and take all the loots in the aftermath.

The whole thing is very sus. Apparently low casualties, suspicious timing and nothing to gain from using them.

What tactical advantage do you gain from gassing women and children?
Unless you are on the losing side and need a boost via bombs by proxy.

 

[moXJO]

Or perhaps just the realisation that he is an all-round rotten and unpleasant guy, who lacks the intelligence, demeanour and relevant experience required for the job.

I'm not a Hilary fan, but she didn't get the job, so I don't see the point in discussing whether she theoretically would have been better or worse than Trump.

Trump is exactly what the world needed. America's Bull$hit is out in the open for the world to see. Hillary would have hid the crap America does behind fake smiles. As would the rest of the presidents that followed her.

Trump will change politics for some time. Hopefully what comes next will be better. But for now I hope Trump goes through US government departments like a wrecking ball.

 

[luutzu]

The whole thing is very sus. Apparently low casualties, suspicious timing and nothing to gain from using them.

What tactical advantage do you gain from gassing women and children?
Unless you are on the losing side and need a boost via bombs by proxy.

Yea doesn't make much sense.

If I have a high opinion of Trump I'd suspect that his talks of withdrawing was a ploy to go deeper into Syria. That is, he's playing the reluctant warrior president wanting peace and keeping the troops home... But the animal Assad keep gasing his rebels so what can we do but go all in?

But it's most likely he just want to get the heck out of Syria but others thought otherwise.

Looks like the US is assembling another alliance of the willing to bomb Syria and take on Russia/Iran (and possibly some Chinese aid behind the scene).

Russia have lost pratically all its former Eastern European colonies. All they have left to keep the barbarians away from the gates are the Ukraine, Syria and Georgia around there right? They've lost Libya so don't think they can afford to lose this Syrian footing in the Meds.

 

[luutzu]

Trump is exactly what the world needed. America's Bull$hit is out in the open for the world to see. Hillary would have hid the crap America does behind fake smiles. As would the rest of the presidents that followed her.

Trump will change politics for some time. Hopefully what comes next will be better. But for now I hope Trump goes through US government departments like a wrecking ball.

Like Obama and Billy Clinton. They both pulled the same bs as Dubya and Trump, but does it so smoothly nobody but the victims notices. Maybe a few hippies but that's about it.

 

[explod]

Could the be some truth in this:


"Former UK Ambassador to Syria: Syrian Chemical Weapons Attack Was STAGED By Islamic Jihadi Propagandists, No One Actually Died"

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...ical-weapons-attack-was-staged-islamic-jihadi

 

[Tisme]

Trump worshiping is a manifestation of blind faith divorced from reality epitomised by name calling of anyone who dares to disagree with him of his followers.

I don't name call the lower than a snakes belly deadsh1ts (aka Lenin's "useful idiots") who pray at the alter of cultural marxism, but I don't worship the go you good thing Trump either.