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Is Shorten PM material?

Is Shorten PM material?

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    Votes: 6 16.2%

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    Votes: 31 83.8%
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It will be very interesting to see the outcome of the next election, Labor is going feminine heavy, I wonder if it will pay off?
 
And there's a reason for that. Your main prerequisite for selection is to have a dubious background that can be used against you every time you stray from the party line :)
 
KK to replace SD
It's a win win situation.
Labor is happy because the factions keep ruling.
The coalition is happy because Labor replaces one political drop kick with another.
 
This article gives a very good representation of the situation, regarding Bill.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-07/why-bill-shorten-is-not-a-socialist/9522336

This is the problem the Liberals have, Bill and Malcolm are twins, but there is only one they can punish at the polls.
They are both beige and walking the center line, but the general public want a vision, neither Malcolm or Bill can give one so one gets chucked out.
The rise of the 'Steven Bradbury' effect.:xyxthumbs

Just had a thought, if Bill doesn't win, Labor will go into meltdown.IMO
 
Shame he can't be ditched, there are a number, Fitzgerald in particular who could lift the side in my view.
 
I'm of the opinion, that it really doesn't matter who you vote for, unless they follow the script, they go.
Then the next one steps up, and so on, I'm not being Party specific.
There are heaps of examples where Australia's best interests would be served, by different policies, when they are presented the presenter exits 'left stage'.

Nothing much has changed IMO, other than we are sliding and our resources are diminishing. lol

IMO that is where Hawke failed, he had ultimate support and the faith of the Nation, then he dropped the ball. IMO
 
sptrawler said:
This article gives a very good representation of the situation, regarding Bill.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-07/why-bill-shorten-is-not-a-socialist/9522336

This is the problem the Liberals have, Bill and Malcolm are twins, but there is only one they can punish at the polls.
They are both beige and walking the center line, but the general public want a vision, neither Malcolm or Bill can give one so one gets chucked out.
The rise of the 'Steven Bradbury' effect.:xyxthumbs

Just had a thought, if Bill doesn't win, Labor will go into meltdown.IMO
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I think both parties are captive to their own stupidity in trying to cast the Green vote.

They are the ones who stepped outside their core being and tried emulating the ragtag Greens. They even poured money into social justice fads hoping it would garner votes, but all that has done is validate the fifth estates and eroded the core ALP/LNP membership and primary votes.
 
Shorten needs to cast Labor off from the CFMEU, they are a millstone around his party's neck.

Labor's association with corrupt unions is about the only mud that the Libs can throw against Labor.

If Shorten has the guts to sever the link with the CFMEU then I think he has got the next election won.
 
I'd like to see more like Doug Cameron back into both parties. Sure they are dinosaurs of the 1960/70's when people just said what had to be said, but it might be a good change:

 
Tisme said:
I'd like to see more like Doug Cameron back into both parties. Sure they are dinosaurs of the 1960/70's when people just said what had to be said, but it might be a good change:
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Yes, Doug is good value.

He was just asking about the source of staff appointments and then Cash went off on her ridiculous sidetrack. She's the one not fit to be a Minister.
 
Shorten is paddling into the renewable energy, clean and green wave. The weight of global warming will swing people toward Labor at the next or following election and it will be goodbye to fossil fuel extraction and use. The QLD. Labor governments backing of the Adani coal mine is a thorn in his side while S.A. government is his surfboard for the ride.
 
SirRumpole said:
Shorten needs to cast Labor off from the CFMEU, they are a millstone around his party's neck.

Labor's association with corrupt unions is about the only mud that the Libs can throw against Labor.

If Shorten has the guts to sever the link with the CFMEU then I think he has got the next election won.
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The working class hero is bread and butter for Labor. He will aim to clean up the image rather than sever ties.
 
^ Can't sever ties with your number one sponsor :cool:
sptrawler said:
This article gives a very good representation of the situation, regarding Bill.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-07/why-bill-shorten-is-not-a-socialist/9522336

This is the problem the Liberals have, Bill and Malcolm are twins, but there is only one they can punish at the polls.
They are both beige and walking the center line, but the general public want a vision, neither Malcolm or Bill can give one so one gets chucked out.
The rise of the 'Steven Bradbury' effect.:xyxthumbs

Just had a thought, if Bill doesn't win, Labor will go into meltdown.IMO
Click to expand...
BS (that's Bill Shorten :) ) is more like Tony Abbott - unpopular blockers beating a broken Govt.

TA was way less popular than Big Rev Kev right up to the election but still won.
 
Tisme said:
I'd like to see more like Doug Cameron back into both parties. Sure they are dinosaurs of the 1960/70's when people just said what had to be said, but it might be a good change:

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Faulty airbags for faulty airheads :)
 

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