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Is Shorten PM material?

Is Shorten PM material?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 16.2%

  • No

    Votes: 31 83.8%
  • Total voters
    37
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SirRumpole said:
If the 'middle' class is stretched, what about the 'lower' class ?
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Such a cloudy distinction these days.

I look out my window and see e.g an AU falcon pulling a crisp new Bayliner with 200+ pony motor and wonder how the equation works these days.
 
SirRumpole said:
Debt.
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Amen to that.
A lot of families are one incident away from homelessness. House prices are the only thing saving them. If they get in a jam, they can sell and downsize.

We will need to flick back to a labor core govt. But I think we still need some of the libs "draconian" measures to smooth the economy some more.
 
moXJO said:
We will need to flick back to a labor core govt. But I think we still need some of the libs "draconian" measures to smooth the economy some more.
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Yeah, that's the trouble, we need some sort of government that can see both sides and not just stick to the 'Left v Right' ideology wars.

Is there another Hawke or Keating out there ?
 
It's Bill Shorten's fault:

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Good post Tisme.
I wish he had backed up his rhetoric, with substance.
But then that wouldn't be Bill, how would he stay the leader, when the Girls where ganging up on him.

Changes to marriage, or whether we move to a republic, have to be a decision of the populace not by group of politicians that have attained office by chance.
It amazes me, that they think wisdom, is inherited by office.
I think that is where Hillary, went wrong, taking for granted that because she said it, people would swallow it.
For Bill to to take charge of the forum, he has to adopt a sensible response, to logical LNP policy.

For Malcolm to take charge, he has to grow a pair and say this is it, which at his age isn't going to happen.
 
sptrawler said:
Good post Tisme.
I wish he had backed up his rhetoric, with substance.
But then that wouldn't be Bill, how would he stay the leader, when the Girls where ganging up on him.

Changes to marriage, or whether we move to a republic, have to be a decision of the populace not by group of politicians that have attained office by chance.
It amazes me, that they think wisdom, is inherited by office.
I think that is where Hillary, went wrong, taking for granted that because she said it, people would swallow it.
For Bill to to take charge of the forum, he has to adopt a sensible response, to logical LNP policy.

For Malcolm to take charge, he has to grow a pair and say this is it, which at his age isn't going to happen.
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Absolutely 100% true in my book. I won't say I'm disillusioned with Labor or Liberal because I have always run my own race, but it is disappointing that courageous men and women with a real national agenda have either been driven out of office or excluded from pre selection by the self interest groups.

It's always been a tough gig to navigate around egos in politics, but I fear it's become a full time job for prime ministers instead of having clear space and vision. I know it sounds partisan, but we really do need a love/hate relationship with another Paul Keating.
 
Bill (I'm Green, I'm Gay, I'm a Humanitarian) Shorten is such a fake. Opposition to everything from present Gov. is his only game with stupid ideas to counter. It's why people vote for (bigger) idiots like Pauline Hanson and Clive Palmer.
 
Wysiwyg said:
Bill (I'm Green, I'm Gay, I'm a Humanitarian) Shorten is such a fake. Opposition to everything from present Gov. is his only game with stupid ideas to counter. It's why people vote for (bigger) idiots like Pauline Hanson and Clive Palmer.
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Don't worry, Bill is hoping to be the Steven Bradbury of politics, to get him over the line. lol
Also the LNP, by putting 'selfie' Malcolm in charge, have played right into their hands
 
Shorten has a problem with his fly.

If it comes (allah excuse me) the LNP will slaughter him.

Best the ALP go with Albo.

gg
 
PZ99 said:
Dastyari is finished I reckon.
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No way. Bill has told him that he has been a naughty little boy again. There's no TV for him for the next three weeks.
But later, when Labor get in, Bill will make him the Minister of Defence because he has such a good relationship with the Chinese (and God knows how many other generous countries).
 
The trouble the LNP wil have in pursuing Sam is their very own manGod Andrew Robb, who left parliament to take up a $900k part time job with a Chinese boss, following a history of accepting $50k +_ donations from the Chinese; supposedly for campaigns..
 
If Dastyari doesn't go then I hope the Labor party are annihilated at the next election until Sam and Shorten are no longer part of the Labor party.
 

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