NBN Rollout Scrapped

[Tisme]

Well here you go. It's not fizzer's fault but Bill Shorten's.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/dodgy...ll-for-labors-flawed-nbn-20170809-gxsa5v.html

 

[sptrawler]

Well here you go. It's not fizzer's fault but Bill Shorten's.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/dodgy...ll-for-labors-flawed-nbn-20170809-gxsa5v.html

Are you Bill? You always sound like you're trying to justify Bill.

 

[Tisme]

Are you Bill? You always sound like you're trying to justify Bill.

I don't like Bill and I don't like his nuance social agenda, but I dislike more:- deliberately or ignorantly blaming someone other than the real culprit of the failure.

Peter Martin trashes what's left of his journalistic integrity when he patently and persistently shows his inability to shake off party political bias which no doubt was inculcated into him from birth.

I am equally skeptical of Labor hacks who purport to be journalists. Both camps are an insult to thinking people.

 

[drsmith]

I don't like Bill and I don't like his nuance social agenda, but I dislike more:- deliberately or ignorantly blaming someone other than the real culprit of the failure.

Peter Martin trashes what's left of his journalistic integrity when he patently and persistently shows his inability to shake off party political bias which no doubt was inculcated into him from birth.

I am equally skeptical of Labor hacks who purport to be journalists. Both camps are an insult to thinking people.

Sheeit!

I've woken up this morning in a parallel universe.

 

[drsmith]

Some interesting numbers in the above Fairfax article regarding take-up.

Dodgy assumptions in its 2010 corporate plan helped. It assumed that no more than 16.4 per cent of customers would abandon fixed lines. It's achieving only a 75 per cent take-up, suggesting the real figure is closer to 25 per cent. It assumed the number of households would grow at a compound annual rate of 1.6 per cent per year. Between the last two censuses it's grown by much less.

The basis I can only assume is for those areas where the 18-month transition period has elapsed as that's the only meaningful reference for determining take-up.

 

[overhang]

Some interesting numbers in the above Fairfax article regarding take-up.


The basis I can only assume is for those areas where the 18-month transition period has elapsed as that's the only meaningful reference for determining take-up.

Would like to know that too. Maybe some people have decided that they're mobile data plans are enough for their needs atm.

 

[Tisme]

Sheeit!

I've woken up this morning in a parallel universe.

Must be nice to discover a clue after a prolonged drought of cognizance.

 

[drsmith]

Must be nice to discover a clue after a prolonged drought of cognizance.

Something strange going on here.

I'm sure when I read and quoted your comment yesterday that you were praising Peter Martin.

 

[drsmith]

The alternative is that I'm ready for the knackery.

 

[Tisme]

http://www.zdnet.com/article/6-percent-of-fttn-nbn-connections-cannot-hit-25mbps/

 

[drsmith]

http://www.zdnet.com/article/6-percent-of-fttn-nbn-connections-cannot-hit-25mbps/

The detail within that article is very interesting.

94%/65% of FTTN users able to get 25+/50+Mbps respectively during the 18-month coexistence period with legacy copper services is a pretty good result and clearly demonstrates the extent to which the CVC pricing model is impacting speed over and above the hardware by which the service is delivered.

With regard to your criticism of Peter Martin's article above, I note you only attacked his character without offering any commentary on any specific point within the article itself. It must have struck a very raw nerve.

 

[Tisme]

This is worth watching.

Perhaps Peter Martin and his adoring fans who also don't have a clue might be able start understanding some basic flaws driving their arrogance and ignorance.

 

[Tisme]

Ooh nooo. This is an absolute no no with light pipes and copper

 

[drsmith]

This is worth watching.

Perhaps Peter Martin and his adoring fans who also don't have a clue might be able start understanding some basic flaws driving their arrogance and ignorance.

You've done it again. Along with a further unsubstantiated character bagging of Peter Martin, you've picked another example of an NBN connection that's FTTP.

 

[overhang]

The detail within that article is very interesting.

94%/65% of FTTN users able to get 25+/50+Mbps respectively during the 18-month coexistence period with legacy copper services is a pretty good result and clearly demonstrates the extent to which the CVC pricing model is impacting speed over and above the hardware by which the service is delivered.

With regard to your criticism of Peter Martin's article above, I note you only attacked his character without offering any commentary on any specific point within the article itself. It must have struck a very raw nerve.

It's also an indictment on the coalition NBN that $50 billion only gets 1/3rd of FTTN users 2-3 times maximum adsl2 speeds with no upgrade path that doesn't require ripping copper up.

 

[drsmith]

It's also an indictment on the coalition NBN that $50 billion only gets 1/3rd of FTTN users 2-3 times maximum adsl2 speeds with no upgrade path that doesn't require ripping copper up.

When you look ad data as to the level of service being ordered, ~80% with an FTTP connection are ordering either a 12 or 25Mbps service.

https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/NBN Wholesale Market Indicators Report 30 June 2017.pdf

When compared to the table at the 7-minute mark of the first of the two video links above, this hasn't materially changed over the past two years.

What this illustrates is that the vast majority of those connecting don't wish to pay for the difference between an FTTN and FTTP service. Of interest with the rest is that ~4% are ordering 50Mbps and ~16% 100Mbps. It would be interesting to know more about the demographics of the 16% to understand where the best economic case lies for FTTP (or other techs that have the potential to offer 100Mbps+).

 

[Tisme]

http://www.zdnet.com/article/over-three-quarters-of-australians-dont-know-their-internet-speed-nbn/

 

[overhang]

When you look ad data as to the level of service being ordered, ~80% with an FTTP connection are ordering either a 12 or 25Mbps service.

https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/NBN Wholesale Market Indicators Report 30 June 2017.pdf

When compared to the table at the 7-minute mark of the first of the two video links above, this hasn't materially changed over the past two years.

What this illustrates is that the vast majority of those connecting don't wish to pay for the difference between an FTTN and FTTP service. Of interest with the rest is that ~4% are ordering 50Mbps and ~16% 100Mbps. It would be interesting to know more about the demographics of the 16% to understand where the best economic case lies for FTTP (or other techs that have the potential to offer 100Mbps+).

Thanks for the data, some quite revealing figures there and the high take up of the lowest tier does surprise me. But at some stage down the track there will be a need for people to increase their speeds, unfortunately for some on FTTN that won't be possible.

 

[crackajack]

Quality of installs getting better (can only imagine how the school halls and pink batts would have looked if they had insisted on the same quality control):

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garden hoes is useful lol

 

[crackajack]

In an event of fire please use garden hose to extinguish flames