NBN Rollout Scrapped

[drsmith]

Premises passed to June 30 2017 from the update to the week ending July 6 are as follows (June 30 2017/2016 corporate plan forecast),

Brownfields: 4381k/4180k.
Greenfields: 396k/370k.
Fixed Wireless: 518k/480k.
Satellite: 418k/412k.
Total: 5713k/5442k.

The total exceeded the 2016 corporate plan target of 5,442k by 271k and brownfields by 201k.

Service class 0 continues to climb but at a slower rate weekly rate the two weeks to July 6 when compared to previous weeks. That's at 265k as at July 6.

The past 3 weeks has also seen the rate of premise activation rise to over 40k per week.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam...lout-metrics/nbn-rollout-metrics-06072017.pdf

 

[Tisme]

Prophetic?

Tony Abbott has ordered Malcolm Turnbull to "demolish" the Government's National Broadband Network (NBN) as he today brought him back to the Coalition frontbench to head up its communications portfolio.

Mr Turnbull makes his high-profile return to the shadow ministry nine months after he was dumped as Liberal leader and replaced by Mr Abbott.

Declaring the NBN would be the "absolute focus" of the political battle of the next 18 months, Mr Abbott said he could think of no better person to "ferociously" hold the Government to account on the issue.

"The Government is going to invest $43 billion worth of hard-earned money in what I believe is going to turn out to be a white elephant on a massive scale," Mr Abbott said.

"I've already described it as school halls on steroids, and we can be certain the NBN will be to this term of government what pink batts and school halls were to the last term of government."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-09-14/abbott-orders-turnbull-to-demolish-nbn/2260320

 

[Tisme]

The whole truth and nothing ....

LOL

Days after taking to YouTube with an ad marking the halfway point of the national broadband network rollout, and not long after we cheekily pointed out the speedtest result in the ad, NBN Co has pulled their own ad.

Earlier this week we noted that the ad had a closeup shot of what most Australians would consider a rather unspectacular speedtest result: a ping of 598ms, and a fairly unspectacular download/upload speed to match. There was an explanation: the customer was serviced by the Sky Muster satellite service, and the ping and download speeds are fairly standard for that service.

Read more at https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/07/nbn-pulled-their-own-ad-from-youtube/#gjJwJllliZEoo0Ue.99

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/07/nbn-pulled-their-own-ad-from-youtube/

 

[drsmith]

Noosa Property owner complains about NBN hardware installed on verge in front of her investment property,

https://www.noosanews.com.au/news/cute-cottage-turned-ugly-by-nbn-box/3199967/

 

[Tisme]

Noosa Property owner complains about NBN hardware installed on verge in front of her investment property,

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https://www.noosanews.com.au/news/cute-cottage-turned-ugly-by-nbn-box/3199967/

LOL double whammy: a copper wire PSTN pillar and an NBN Node pillar. Someone should drop a pad mount transformer in between to finish of a hat trick

 

[overhang]

Noosa Property owner complains about NBN hardware installed on verge in front of her investment property,

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https://www.noosanews.com.au/news/cute-cottage-turned-ugly-by-nbn-box/3199967/

That is quite ugly, can't believe its right on the boundary line. But it's quite laughable for the article to describe it as a "cute cottage" when it looks to be ex-public housing, the eye sore is the stumps fully on display, that sub-floor needs to be boarded off.

 

[drsmith]

That is quite ugly, can't believe its right on the boundary line.

It lines up with the nearby pillar so perhaps it's directly over the pre-existing duct.

A more savvy property owner might have asked how much to run fibre from the node to the house.

 

[drsmith]

The following was in today's Australian,

NBN Co’s chief network deployment officer Kathrine Dyer has vowed that no premises will be left unconnected to the National Broadband Network by the time the rollout is completed in 2020.

Ms Dyer’s comments come after The Australian revealed last week that up to 200,000 premises faced lengthy delays connecting to the network — even after the NBN has been rolled out in their neighbourhoods.

These “service class 0” premises, which make up close to 5 per cent of the 5 million or so premises ready to receive a NBN service, have been put in the too-hard basket by NBN Co as it looks to hit its rollout targets.

Ms Dyer, who is in charge of completing the rollout of the NBN, conceded that some premises had been left in limbo and that NBN Co was working to ensure they would not fall further behind as the rollout gather pace.

“This year is the year we look at these premises and start making them serviceable,” she told The Weekend Australian, adding that no home would be left behind by 2020. “All of these premises will be made serviceable and it will be a key focus for us as we enter what is going to be our largest construction year.”

According to Ms Dyer, the decision to leave some premises behind was dictated by several factors, not just the access technology. “We had some examples where we would get to multi-dwelling units (apartments) and the body corporate would tell us to come back in 12 months,” she said.

As NBN Co looks to improve the engagement process, the company’s critics maintain the decision to bypass homes has more to do with meeting aggressive rollout targets and keeping costs down.

An industry source told The Weekend Australian the “service class 0” premises were usually difficult to connect, adding to the rollout time and costs.

There are continued concerns that these shortcuts will come home to roost. “These premises are going to eventually push up the total cost per premises for NBN Co,” the source said.

With the NBN rollout entering the metro areas, the next 12 months will be critical for NBN Co. Connecting metro suburbs will require significant civil works and better co-ordination between NBN Co and the retail service providers. “There will be a lot of night works, additional traffic management and higher level of consultation with council on land access,” she said

The hand-off between NBN Co and the telcos continues to pose headaches for residents and The Weekend Australian understands there are considerable problems in identifying the status of activation on premises, with the multi-technology approach often leading to multiple visits to premises.

However, Ms Dyer said the biggest source of pain for consumers was a lack of clarity about on where NBN Co’s responsibility ended and the retail service providers took over. “We are all on a journey here and there’s a learning curve here for providers and residents,” she said.

Ms Dyer, who moved from Telstra to NBN Co in 2010, started her tenure at the company rolling out fibre to greenfield sites.

While the majority of the NBN rollout has moved to the copper-reliant fibre-to-the-node technology there’s still some fibre being rolled out to new estates.

“The fibre technology is still in our kit. In limited instances we will be rolling out fibre where it makes sense. It’s part of our technology choice program and in most cases it’s being rolled out in greenfields estates,” Ms Dyer said.

She said full fibre deployment in brownfields area continued to be the most expensive option for NBN Co.

FTTP connections in Australia cost $4404 per premises, compared with $NZ2800 ($2677) in New Zealand and $US1719 ($2259) in the US.

“When you start thinking about distance, the workforce we have and the existing infrastructure in place, all of this influences the cost of rolling out the technology.”

That argument is not accepted by NBN Co’s critics, with Rod Tucker, a telecommunications expert and professor at the University of Melbourne, recently pointing out that NBN Co’s justifications don’t add up.

According to Mr Tucker, NBN Co not only ignores the recent improvements made in deploying full fibre but also that full fibre connection costs were falling across the world.

With half of the NBN now rolled out, a return to a full fibre deployment is out if the question; however, there remains an opportunity for NBN Co to expand the use of the fibre to the curb (FTTC) technology to complete the rollout. The technology, which requires taking fibre closer to premises than the nodes, is being trialled in Melbourne. “We are trialling in Coburg at the moment and we are excited to add that to our technology mix,” Ms Dyer said.

NBN Co has allocated one million homes to the FTTC footprint and Ms Dyer said that number was unlikely to change in the short term. “It’s an upgrade path for us and we could rethink it in the future but we will need to rethink how we would pay for that.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...r/news-story/9fed600af12f62df3e797438f833192e

 

[drsmith]

Some more in the Fairfax press,

Inner-city apartment residents have the option to bulk purchase higher-speed connections from NBN Co under the government-owned company's plan to add nearly 4 million premises to its network this year.

The NBN at present is planning to service the majority of remaining premises by using existing copper telephone lines and cabling from the homes to connect to nodes which are then part of its fibre network.

It is winding down the more expensive fibre-to-the-premises (FTTP) roll-out to just a few hundred a month.

Direct FTTP connections currently offer faster speeds, although NBN Co argues some overseas Fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) networks offer speeds of 300 megabits per second (Mbps).

As the NBN begins to focus on more densely populated areas it is offering bulk buyers – such as apartment building body corporates – the ability to buy a fibre connection all the way to their units for an additional fee.

NBN Co's chief network deployment officer, Kathrine Dyer, confirmed at least two properties have already used the Technology Switch option to upgrade from fibre-to-the-node to FTTP, although costs will vary for each property.

One Queensland commercial property owner paid just $6000 to upgrade a FTTN connection limited to 25 Mbps to a FTTP connection, which can deliver up to 1 gigabyte per second (Gbps).

And a residential block of flats in Darlinghurst in Sydney got together and paid to have the entire block fitted with FTTP while the rest of the suburb was connected through FTTN.

Costs depend on the building's complexity, cabling, age, proximity to infrastructure and the underlying network, Ms Dyer explained.

"You can't just naturally plug in one technology to another ... It is not an easy thing to just give a universal price," Ms Dyer said.

"We do have a team that can talk to them and come out and potentially visit them if a body corporate is interested ... We don't do a street on a street by street basis, [but] we will do individual premises. Although by definition the whole street could apply."

NBN Co currently charges a blind quote fee of $660, according to its website. Costs decline depending on how many premises want an upgrade, but it will only consider upgrades after the planned installations to the nearest node are complete.

Ms Dyer has been at NBN Co for six years and recently became the chief network deployment officer. She is in charge of network planning, design and construction. She was previously the executive general manager for regional deployment.

"I have now stepped up to take on the deployment of all NBN technologies. Including HFC, all of fibre-to-the-curb as well. This year for me, it will be the largest construction year that NBN has," she told Fairfax Media.

"By definition it will be our largest construction year compared to any other year in our plan."

NBN Co plans to declare 3.7 million premises ready for service this financial year, taking the total number of ready premises to over 8 million. It recently declared it was half-way through the total build, although this was due to a reduction in total premises from 11.9 million to 11.2 million.

By July 2018 about 4.5 million premises are expected to be actively using the NBN. It has an internal goal of 8 million active users by 2020.

Planning documents seen by Fairfax Media show the bulk of construction in 2017-18 will focus on upgrading infrastructure already installed around the country, a much faster process than (FTTP). In the busiest months hundreds of thousands of premises will be upgraded from existing copper-based ADSL internet to FTTN or HFC where available. But the number of premises getting FTTP installations ranges from just 300 to 5210.

From March 2018 NBN Co will start connecting tens of thousands of premises every month using fibre-to-the-curb (FTTC) technology, which brings fibre closer to a premises, but uses the last few metres of the existing copper connection. FTTN uses up to 450 metres of copper wire, which is slower and has less capacity than fibre.

To date the focus has been on regional towns and outer suburban areas. Ms Dyer said building in inner-city areas brings a new level of complexity because it is more crowded, there are more heritage issues, and construction crews have reported being hassled by people leaving nightclubs and pubs.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/do-y...at-nbns-apartment-upsell-20170714-gxbil6.html

 

[Tisme]

Was only a matter of time before another sub titled version surfaced on mainstream facebook:

Caution: course language

 

[drsmith]

Present speed problems are related to wholesale (NBN) connectivity virtual circuit (CVC) pricing. This has been reduced recently by NBN with the pricing structure from June 1 in the link below.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam...otice_effective_1_June_2017_2016_20170227.pdf

From what I've seen in the press, RSP's are purchasing the 1 mbps per user tier. This as I understand it from the table in the document above is $14.25 per mbps per user per month after the discount is applied.

While the price per mbps is reduced from earlier versions, the CVC pricing structure above remains contrary to the higher speeds the NBN is intended to achieve.

 

[Tisme]

Be interesting to see if this is truth once the investigation by the govt agencies start. My guess is that the poor performance is understated, merely giving a dog a bone.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...s/news-story/df1973733137816675fab58b9e156756

Telstra has moved to clear the air for its NBN customers, admitting up to 10,000 of its customers were not receiving the speeds they had signed up for.

According to Telstra, about 1 per cent of its overall NBN customer base of more than a million customers have not enjoyed the appropriate speeds.

The telco will contact affected customers and look to move them to a more suitable speed tier, and also reimburse those who may have paid for a speed boost they did not get.

 

[sptrawler]

Well my mate, who has fibre to the home has found out what the problem is, it bogs down at high usage times.
He can't find out why, because he only bought the low 12mb/s offer.
Will keep you updated, as I find out more info.

 

[Tisme]

T

Well my mate, who has fibre to the home has found out what the problem is, it bogs down at high usage times.
He can't find out why, because he only bought the low 12mb/s offer.
Will keep you updated, as I find out more info.

This is your cobber in Pinjarra/Mandurah?

 

[Tisme]

BTW if anyone has problems with their connections, a legit complaint call to the TIO (Ombudsman) results in a fee cost to the provider, which they hate and don't want to repeat because the penalty eventually escalates to bill refunds.

 

[Tisme]

Quality of installs getting better (can only imagine how the school halls and pink batts would have looked if they had insisted on the same quality control):

 

[sptrawler]

T



This is your cobber in Pinjarra/Mandurah?

Yes, he says that some times he gets 11mb/s other times 3mb/s.

 

[Tisme]

Yes, he says that some times he gets 11mb/s other times 3mb/s.

Real problem's with the backhaul link in that region and it doesn't matter which ISP you use, the link is consistently under capacity.

 

[drsmith]

Well my mate, who has fibre to the home has found out what the problem is, it bogs down at high usage times.
He can't find out why, because he only bought the low 12mb/s offer.
Will keep you updated, as I find out more info.

Likely a consequence of the CVC pricing model as outlined above.

 

[Tisme]

Pinjarra/Mandurah has been suffering backhaul (wholesale to retailer service and quality) problems for approx two years.

arguments about lipstick on pig still doesn't change the fact the pig is still a pig.

e.g. http://advisories.internode.on.net/item/15371/