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Is Shorten PM material?
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Tisme
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Going after Turnbull for his shady HIH days?
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It illustrates how QT with its theatrics of pseudo-involvement of the public in a dysfunctional political process is a demonstration of an entire country effectively going on strike.
Excuse me Tisme......Turnbull was cleared...Shorten still has the stench of a bad smell hanging over his head with the dirty deals he did when AWU Secretary...He didddled the workers of Chiquita and Clean event in return for dollars to the union....He was caught with $40,000 which he did not declare for 8 years.
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The biased Haydon Royal Commission had the chance to grind Shorten into the dirt if they could find anything wrong with his actions.
They couldn't and didn't so that's really the end of the story.
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QT is just like an afternoon soapy.
It is a farce and a waste of money.
Hypocrisy abounds and the cast act like little children having a fight over a lolly.
Speaker, (for the 10 millionth time) "Stop interjecting children or I'll throw you out" - boring.
No wonder politicians are held in such low esteem!
Yet I am drawn to QT when I need a laugh.
I agree whole heatedly.......Nothing is ever gained....Both sides seeking to score political points.
You must be joking....ROFL.
From this poll it would appear not too many are happy with barnacle Bill.
https://www.votocrat.com/susane.lisa/poll-do-you-want-bill-shorten-as-next-pm-of-australia
https://www.votocrat.com/susane.lisa/poll-do-you-want-bill-shorten-as-next-pm-of-australia
In reply to Tisme.....
But Rumpy, there is one thing that has me baffled.....The Labor Party has gained ground in the polls yet Shorten has lost ground in popularity against Turnbull who has gained ground.
It is hard to work out what makes people tick sometimes.
Tisme, I hope this makes you a little happier....Now you can take that lemon out of your mouth
But Rumpy, there is one thing that has me baffled.....The Labor Party has gained ground in the polls yet Shorten has lost ground in popularity against Turnbull who has gained ground.
It is hard to work out what makes people tick sometimes.
Tisme, I hope this makes you a little happier....Now you can take that lemon out of your mouth
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Perhaps the electorate has matured enough to realise that popularity does not a General make.
Who is stupid enough to think Shorten is General material?
Well one person is according to the poll.
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Well it's not me, but that doesn't preclude me from the right to be stupid. The popular one is Turnbull and it is he who is not a good General; my comment wasn't supposed to translate into endorsement of Shorten or imply he was national leadership material ... that hasn't been tested yet.
Paul Keating said it best IMO ..."Leadership is not about being popular. It's about being right and about being strong."
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It's not me either. No escaping populism I'm afraid. Not even in the time tunnel.
Paul Keating played that game > Yes GST 1985, No GST 1993.
John Howard > No GST 1993. Yes GST 1998... you can trace this back to the Fraser era.
"being right" is determined by the majority and keeping people happy is everything in a democracy. The only change is the instant justice via the internet from the fifth estate. Hello Mark Latham.
Paul Keating played that game > Yes GST 1985, No GST 1993.
John Howard > No GST 1993. Yes GST 1998... you can trace this back to the Fraser era.
"being right" is determined by the majority and keeping people happy is everything in a democracy. The only change is the instant justice via the internet from the fifth estate. Hello Mark Latham.
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Shorten comes out as a bit of a dork in public but I think he's capable of rational thought and has an organisational capability that would make him a good PM.
Personal popularity comes second to Party voting intention, if Labor win he's PM like him or not.
Personal popularity comes second to Party voting intention, if Labor win he's PM like him or not.
I think voters are regarding Turnbull the lesser of two evils.......But we still have two a bit years to go to the next election and my guess is as good as yours and that is, anything can happen in the next two years.
I voted yes because you do not know how they perform until they get there.
If people could expect a strange person like Tony Abbott to be a decent PM-well there is hope for anyone.
His decision to knight the Duke and one Australian demonstrated,amongst other decisions,what a weird person he is.
I wonder why GG Cosgrove accepted the anachronism as well?
If people could expect a strange person like Tony Abbott to be a decent PM-well there is hope for anyone.
His decision to knight the Duke and one Australian demonstrated,amongst other decisions,what a weird person he is.
I wonder why GG Cosgrove accepted the anachronism as well?
I'm on the right and I find him and the current libs terrible.
Not that I endorse the labor party at all. The last thing the country needs is minority headfukc policies and debates over gay marriage being center stage. There was a big fuss over a woman politician breastfeeding in the Senate or something. Who the hell cares, we have had every member sucking on the taxpayers teat in parliament for years. Whats the fuss over one more.
I can't defend the current libs, less so with labor.
