Will China end up owning the World?

[luutzu]

I think he should instead approve Australia building a US-Aus-Philipino naval base on the Spratly Islands, and just see how they like that. We could just rock up and start claiming it as our own, then defy international law.

The sooner manufacturing becomes decentralized (away from slave labour in china) the better. They are pushy, obtrusive, lawless and offensive, and we don't need them here.

That's not going to happen.

China will not retreat from its claims in these seas. Just can't do it.

If China were to be attacked, or if it were to go to war... and these seas are controlled by another power... where will China get its fuel or food or supplies?

So it must claim these waters to first, project its power and secure its supply lines; second, if the projection can't go too far - the oil and gas reserves, as well as the fisheries, would engine its country and feed its people.


Does China have the legal rights to these seas? Nope. But who's going to stop it?

Would the West risk total war over areas not directly in its backyard? Maybe... but that'll not end well - and China has more to gain and the West more to lose if WW3 were to take place.

Can the West take on the entire ME, Russia, Africa and China? Tall order.

Some recent US Tink Tank [RAND Corp.] suggest that if the US and China were to go at it, China's GDP would drop by 25% while the US only 10%... so the US would still be ahead.

They're forgetting that China would only need to fight in its own neighbourhood while the West got a few other fronts to contain.

 

[dutchie]

'A country on the fringes of civilisation': Chinese state-owned paper calls Australia an 'offshore prison' in savage attack after Mack Horton outed Sun Yang as a drug cheat

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...called-Sun-Yang-drug-cheat.html#ixzz4GoGPtdzV

China calling us uncivilised (let alone any other country) has got to be the biggest joke of the century.

Wankers.

 

[luutzu]

'A country on the fringes of civilisation': Chinese state-owned paper calls Australia an 'offshore prison' in savage attack after Mack Horton outed Sun Yang as a drug cheat

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...called-Sun-Yang-drug-cheat.html#ixzz4GoGPtdzV

China calling us uncivilised (let alone any other country) has got to be the biggest joke of the century.

Wankers.

During the waning years of Qing's China, the title for their Secretary of State was something like "Supreme Handler of Barbarians" - to deal with the White folks.

Racism isn't just a European thing.

 

[CanOz]

Mainlander's consider themselves more civilized and advanced than foreigners because of their lack of body hair as well.

 

[Tisme]

'A country on the fringes of civilisation': Chinese state-owned paper calls Australia an 'offshore prison' in savage attack after Mack Horton outed Sun Yang as a drug cheat

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...called-Sun-Yang-drug-cheat.html#ixzz4GoGPtdzV

China calling us uncivilised (let alone any other country) has got to be the biggest joke of the century.

Wankers.

Who cares. The POMs spent generations feeling cheated they lost their finest and best to migration into Oz. The intelligent Chinese can't wait to get on a plane and seek refuge here from the herd.

It's typical of Chinese and other mindless drone countries to berate Australians for individuals having an opinion of their own, without the state telling them what to say.

He told the truth and the Barbarians don't like it.

 

[Tisme]

Mainlander's consider themselves more civilized and advanced than foreigners because of their lack of body hair as well.

I always found them sneaky and infantile

 

[drsmith]

ABC article,

Chinese donors to Australian political parties: who gave how much?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-21/china-australia-political-donations/7766654

The breakdown is ~$4.0m to Labor and ~$2.1m to the Lib/Nats combined.

 

[luutzu]

I always found them sneaky and infantile

That was not at all like them Mainlanders dishing big hairy white apes as uncivilised.

 

[luutzu]

ABC article,



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-21/china-australia-political-donations/7766654

The breakdown is ~$4.0m to Labor and ~$2.1m to the Lib/Nats combined.

I'm sure they donates more than that.

That one Chinese who bought Packer's mansion for $70M [?]... he didn't pay that for the pleasure of living in it - paid so Packer can call up a few friends in Canberra and elsewhere. He didn't even donate to UTS their new school of business building for the love of learning either.


I think us plebs are too occupied with race, religion, nationalism and all that purity fluff. It seems to me that the leaders of mankind doesn't give a hoot about any of that nonsense - they're all about making deals and fine dinning, banquetie stuff.

It's only they didn't get to have their cakes and eat it a few times that they'd give some fine speeches about men and country and honour and we go fight their battles for them.

 

[sptrawler]

Who cares. The POMs spent generations feeling cheated they lost their finest and best to migration into Oz. The intelligent Chinese can't wait to get on a plane and seek refuge here from the herd.

It's typical of Chinese and other mindless drone countries to berate Australians for individuals having an opinion of their own, without the state telling them what to say.

He told the truth and the Barbarians don't like it.

We don't have the State telling us what to do, we have the press doing that.

We are so busy wallowing in our own importance, the real game is eroding away, what makes us a First World Country.

You tell me, what do we offer the World, that Mexico or Brazil don't?

Yet they don't enjoy our lifestyle.

 

[sptrawler]

I'm sure they donates more than that.

That one Chinese who bought Packer's mansion for $70M [?]... he didn't pay that for the pleasure of living in it - paid so Packer can call up a few friends in Canberra and elsewhere. He didn't even donate to UTS their new school of business building for the love of learning either.


I think us plebs are too occupied with race, religion, nationalism and all that purity fluff. It seems to me that the leaders of mankind doesn't give a hoot about any of that nonsense - they're all about making deals and fine dinning, banquetie stuff.

It's only they didn't get to have their cakes and eat it a few times that they'd give some fine speeches about men and country and honour and we go fight their battles for them.

The way it is going, we won't own anything but debt, our companies will be majority overseas owned, our farmland will be slowly swallowed up by overseas investors.
So we will end up owning the mortgage on our homes, which produce nothing, and will be payed for by our employment in an overseas owned company.
Magic

 

[luutzu]

The way it is going, we won't own anything but debt, our companies will be majority overseas owned, our farmland will be slowly swallowed up by overseas investors.
So we will end up owning the mortgage on our homes, which produce nothing, and will be payed for by our employment in an overseas owned company.
Magic

They'll also own the bank that own them mortgages of ours too.

 

[SirRumpole]

They already own our politicians.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-21/china-australia-political-donations/7766654

 

[sr20de]

PHILIPPINES’ DUTERTE WARNS CHINA OF ‘RECKONING’
"There will come a time that we will have to do some reckoning about this..."

http://www.infowars.com/philippines-duterte-warns-china-of-reckoning/
https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippines-duterte-warns-china-reckoning-103657705.html

I am not so sure the Chinese Government is making too many friends over the South China Sea claims.

 

[SirRumpole]

One small victory (maybe).



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-...ght-to-stop-chinese-copies-of-sawmill/7848394

 

[SirRumpole]

Not good news for the global economy and especially Australia.


China is up to it's neck in debt and it's economy is slowing. The 'Big Crunch' could be just around the corner.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-26/china-warned-to-rein-in-debt/7878426

 

[luutzu]

Not good news for the global economy and especially Australia.


China is up to it's neck in debt and it's economy is slowing. The 'Big Crunch' could be just around the corner.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-26/china-warned-to-rein-in-debt/7878426

Hopefully Australia would start that infrastructure boom we've been promised. There are a number of roads and rail projects around, better accelerate before China thought to start a war or two to put its would-be rebels to some nation-building work.

 

[dutchie]

Both Russia and China can see the weakness in the influence of the USA.

It will be a test between those two powers (C & R) to own the world. Manufacturing power versus raw materials power.

The US is pathetic. Just look at the two people running for the top job there. They would be better off with Rudd (yes, that's how terrible Trump and Hillary are). (Don't worry about the UN job Kevin, go for POTUS!! )

Australia will need to strengthen its borders/immigration and become more self sufficient.

 

[SirRumpole]

A bit of a worry...

Chinese spies in Australia on the rise, former diplomat Chen Yonglin says

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-20/how-many-spies-does-china-have-in-australia/8041004

 

[superbatman]

It is really hard to see, how China won't end up owning everything.

Most manufacturers have relocated their production base to China, the country is completely controlled by the Government, which directly funds all facets of development.
It is difficult to see how they will fail.IMO

In our capitalist system, funding for development generally has to be raised, by tapping the private investors. So it has to be attractive and has to give a return, not so Chinese State owned companies.

The Chinese trade surplus is immense, so they can fund heaps of takeovers, they just have to wait and pounce.

http://www.motoring.com.au/news/201...eg_4=display_outbrain_ron_image-text_content_

Also Volvo are performing well in the motor racing, who would have thought, boring Volvo group A racing?
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/article...ot-sales-revival-with-return-to-swedish-roots

What happens when they own our mining assets? What do we sell them, when that happens?

It really is getting scary, but there is no obvious way to stop it, they really do have all the cards.

Maybe we can ask the Chinese, how they're going to fund our welfare system.

I dont think we need to worry about such a holocaust. Hope soon the peoples of china will fight against their govt. Most of the common people are living there below poverty level ((The condition is wort than that in North Korea).
The another thing is that the people in Beijing will abandon that city within 100 years if the pollution rate is not controlled.