Census - 9 August 2016

[Logique]

First I'd heard of this. I think it's an outrageous intrusion on people's privacy to demand and save their names in the census.

Also, doesn't it undermine the accuracy of the results? Will anyone want to give the census chapter and verse now?

Joe - did a quick search, sorry if a duplicate thread

The Bureau of Statistics endangers the census by asking for names - July 20 2016 - Peter Martin, SMH: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/the-b...nsus-by-asking-for-names-20160719-gq9crr.html

Expect to hear lots about the census. From August 1 we will be getting letters advising us of our login codes instead of the traditional hand-delivered forms. The catchphrase is "get online on August 9".

But what we won't be told as loudly is that there's another more fundamental revolution planned for 2016. The Bureau of Statistics is going to keep our names..

..This provision of our names will be compulsory. At least that's what the bureau says, although it is hard to see what legal basis it would have to prosecute someone who refused to hand over their name..

.. Bill McLennan, a former head of the bureau who helped rewrite the Census and Statistics Act in the early 1980s, says flatly that it doesn't have the authority to demand names...

 

[SirRumpole]

More intrusion of government busy bodies into our lives.

I'm thinking of calling myself a Muslim to stuff up their database, but I don't want visits from ASIO.

Maybe I'll be a satanist.

:evilburn:

 

[McLovin]

Also, doesn't it undermine the accuracy of the results? Will anyone want to give the census chapter and verse now?

They can take me to court. I will not be providing my name.

 

[pixel]

How about "I don't have a computer."

 

[Ijustnewit]

This is an invasion of privacy , what information can they possibly want that they can not get from other data bases. What I'm saying things like your tax return , bank accounts , super , rates , electricity bills , the use of medicare services all of these things are on already known to Governments. I have just been put through 9 months of compulsory surveys from the ABS and they wanted to know the ins and outs of a monkeys bum every month. If you forgot to fill out the survey online after daily demands by phone calls and texts they came knocking at the door at dinner time . I felt totally invaded and again the crap they wanted know would have been easily available to them elsewhere had they done some ground work. I will demand a paper survey and I'm refusing to do it online , that way I can scribble and they will have to decipher that , I might also say the cat ate it

 

[noco]

More intrusion of government busy bodies into our lives.

I'm thinking of calling myself a Muslim to stuff up their database, but I don't want visits from ASIO.

Maybe I'll be a satanist.

:evilburn:

If you have done nothing wrong in your life, you have nothing to fear.

OK but FFS don't tell them you are a radical.

 

[Tisme]

Lifted from facebook

 

[SirRumpole]

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Hey, you know they now want your name ? Do you want Moslem, gay or atheist gangs on your doorstep ?

 

[sptrawler]

Hey, come on, it just goes in with your "my gov" stuff, who doesn't want a big brother?

Mine used to beat me up, I hope this one isn't nasty.

 

[poverty]

I have just been put through 9 months of compulsory surveys from the ABS and they wanted to know the ins and outs of a monkeys bum every month. If you forgot to fill out the survey online after daily demands by phone calls and texts they came knocking at the door at dinner time . I felt totally invaded

This happened to a bloke I know, he repeatedly ignored their letters and phone calls and when they came door knocking he repeatedly told them where they could stick it. I do remember finding it pretty funny at the time, but what an unbelievable invasion of privacy it is. I actually think he was targeted, ie/ Centrelink/ATO wanted some dirt on him and sent in the ABS to try and dig it up.

 

[qldfrog]

This happened to a bloke I know, he repeatedly ignored their letters and phone calls and when they came door knocking he repeatedly told them where they could stick it. I do remember finding it pretty funny at the time, but what an unbelievable invasion of privacy it is. I actually think he was targeted, ie/ Centrelink/ATO wanted some dirt on him and sent in the ABS to try and dig it up.

Had same experience in the past, initially full of good will, after a while was really fed up (it is ongoing and ongoing asking you again and again the same questions AND starting by threatening you as a letter introduction;
I then made sure it was done in a flash with rubbish answers.
I am very tempted to fill the census in the same way; tweaking it to my beliefs.
As many have said before, they only need to reconcile their existing databases to know most of the data, which they do already to make sure you pay taxes, even when they are wrong.They being government/ato (more or less the same nowadays)
So do not want to be trustfull at all.Life is too short

 

[Tisme]

Hey, you know they now want your name ? Do you want Moslem, gay or atheist gangs on your doorstep ?

I don't have a problem with giving my name and details. That's one way I have managed to trace and document my family history.

Sure it might cause some angst for my female descendants knowing the old fella had nefarious women in his house on the night, but what fella doesn't admire a man's man in their ancestral bloodlines?

 

[qldfrog]

I don't have a problem with giving my name and details. That's one way I have managed to trace and document my family history.

Sure it might cause some angst for my female descendants knowing the old fella had nefarious women in his house on the night, but what fella doesn't admire a man's man in their ancestral bloodlines?

great idea: what is the reasonable number of 20y to 30y old un attached ladies I can set as sharing my bed on the 9th?

 

[Logique]

It's compulsory to complete the form, but is it compulsory to be honest?

Look for a severe drop in national average incomes. And wild gyrations in the national average age. There will be the usual diversity of religions. The Jedi religion will make it's usual appearance, and may grow.

The number of unemployed may rise steeply. The number employed on 9 August might slump on average. However the level of unpaid domestic work might soar.

All avoidable, via the simple expedient of making the Census anonymous!

Disclaimer: I urge all to obey Australian law.

 

[McLovin]

is it compulsory to be honest?

Yes

Disclaimer: I urge all to obey Australian law.

How about the ABS starts following the law.

 

[trainspotter]

They can take me to court. I will not be providing my name.

I will visit you in jail ...

Is this the most intrusive Census ever? An $1800 fine if you fill out the form incorrectly, $180 a day if you submit it late - and the government will keep your personal details for FOUR years

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-personal-information-kept.html#ixzz4G7yCXEuo

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO how is it the census is directed to "The Resident" and HOW will they enforce fines if they don't know who you are? Take a minute to thunk about THAT !

UNLESS they already have your name in a data bank in ASIO and they will marry up your name on the census with the metadata they already have on your file.

SCARY **** PEEPS.

Mr Libreri said the ABS had 'a number of quality control measures in place' to detect if someone had provided false information, however, he did not want to detail them.
This year, details like names and addresses will be held for four years until 2020, compared to 18 months in the past.
In previous years, those details were collected but deleted once other Census data had been recorded.

DERP !!! Yep he just admitted to it

 

[Logique]

If you fill out the form ..incorrectly! I wonder how the Aust Bureau of Statistics will establish this.

At some point the Census has become ancillary to the tax return, which may be a partial explanation for the oppressive intrusiveness of it.

 

[Wysiwyg]

DERP !!! Yep he just admitted to it

Un friggin believable that these snoops know personal stuff already. :bad:

 

[Tisme]

I thought we voted no to an Australia Card back in the Hawke days?

If govt is linking our data which anti civil liberties party is doing it?

qldfrog a list of women I'm putting in residence:

Jenna Jameson
Tori Black
Asia Carrerra
and Dawn Wells with a coconut cream pie.

 

[Bill M]

How about "I don't have a computer."

They had an old lady on the TV last night saying she was calling the 1800 they provided for you to ask for a paper census. She couldn't get through after trying all day. The answer from them was, "keep on trying". Geeeezzz can't they get some extra people on to answer the phone for the oldies? Some of them never used the internet in their lives. As the old lady said "spare a thought for us oldies."