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kennas said:
Yes, sorry, I hope Tony develops into the role and becomes more statesman-like.

I want a Prime Minister who does not embarrass us. That's all.

But, I'm more embarrassed that a motor sport enthusiast and a pro-gun moron look like they've been voted in. I'm vexed.
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One thing everyone has to give Abbott credit for, is standing by his calls, even if they were unpopular.

He was put under extreme pressure and criticism by the government and the media, yet was proven correct on most calls.

He may not be zippy and with it, because he makes measured decisions, however it will make for a better government.

It won't be as exciting as the Labor party reality tv show "Who wants to be a PM" . But I believe there has been a big sigh of relief from Australia.
Thank god it's over. IMO
 
I have been asked by some very nervous Liberal backbenchers to travel to Canberra next week to assist with a change in Liberal Party leadership. Malcolm is ready, willing and able.

As luck would have it, the ALP have also asked me to assist with removing John Robertson as Opposition Leader in that state. The NSW ALP in what is left of Sussex St. seem to have adopted a win-at-all-costs stance in NSW.

I will double up on fees for my lobbying duties.

I will leave the Arnage in for detailing in the morning and leave midweek.

gg
 
Not sure why everybody is so impressed by Julia Bishop. Being Foreign Minister is quite different to having a messy domestic portfolio (Downer was a complete failure as party leader but a decent foreign minister).
 
banco said:
Not sure why everybody is so impressed by Julia Bishop. Being Foreign Minister is quite different to having a messy domestic portfolio (Downer was a complete failure as party leader but a decent foreign minister).
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Agree JB isnt that deep a person IMHO good at reciting lines but not much more better talent on the back bench.
 
banco said:
Not sure why everybody is so impressed by Julia Bishop. Being Foreign Minister is quite different to having a messy domestic portfolio (Downer was a complete failure as party leader but a decent foreign minister).
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Bob Carr was neither a good leader nor a good foreign Minister.....At least Julie Bishop has proved herself as a good foreign Minister ....just whether she could handle the mess the Green/Labor Socialist left wing maniacs left behind is something else....judgement should not be passed until she has the opportunity to has proved herself if and when...it is all hypothetical at the moment.

Turnbull is too far to the left and perhaps should be a part of the Labor Party and that is the main reason Labor would like to see Turnbull back in the top job........They just might be able to manipulate Turnbull a lot easier than they can Abbott.

I believe the newly formed Democratic Liberal Party lead by Senator David Leyonhjelm may one day rise to accommodate the center of politics.
 
drsmith said:
Malcolm's had a tendency to be a little too ready.

If the Libs were about to change leaders (which I don't think they are), I suspect Julie Bishop would get the nod.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/julie...appable-foreign-minister-20140815-104nca.html

In any case, the story of the budget measures has a long way to run yet.
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Agree doc, the longer the blocking of the budget goes, the sillier the arguements are sounding.
The other day on ABC radio, the reporter kept asking Bill Shorten, what he would do to improve the fiscal situation.
He really couldn't answer the question.

All the puff has run out of bagging the budget and the fiscal situation keeps deteriorating.

Also read in the "Sunday Tmes' Hockey says the superannuation system is unaffordable.
 
SirRumpole said:
Have you had an epiphany Doc ?

See you at the next Fabian meeting !

:D
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No and no.

The prospect of the financial mismanagement, the carbon tax and the boats as would occur under a Labor/Green administration is not something I find any more appealing now than I did when they were in office.

This is why the current government's difficulties are so disappointing. The political theatre though with these kind of things is as always entertaining but that's only a very small consolation with respect to the well being of the nation as a whole.
 
If Turnbull or whoever gets into power like this, wouldn't it set (enhance) a bad precedent?

First, the voters does not really choose or decide who their Prime Minister is - the pollsters and media can provide convincing "evidence" of the PM's unpopularity and a coup is made.

I know our system is not that of the US's presidential politics... but I think most Australians go to the polls thinking they're also voting for who their PM is - not just their local rep.

Second... one opposition party is enough. To make it easy to replace Prime Ministership through opinion polls... wouldn't the second or third minister behind the PM not work with the PM but may even give bad advise and work against the party's and gov't interests so the PM be unpopular and be replaced before a proper general election?

BUt i guess the people's vote never really affect much at that level of power.
 
Well I don't support Turnbull. If I wanted to vote Labor, I would have.

The ABC should have been shredded long ago, who is running this country.
 
The game's afoot,

First, Malcolm Turnbull this morning talking about the merits of time for elected party members to consult with the spill meeting on Tuesday,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-08/malcolm-turnbull-stops-his-morning-walk-to-speak/6078098

Then, TA in response bringing it forward to 9am Monday,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-...special-party-room-meeting-for-monday/6078002

We see here Malcolm's strength in oratory but also his weakness in political strategy.

He would have done better to have kept walking when he said he would.
 
SirRumpole said:
Or maybe giving Abbott more respect than the deserves
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No.

Malcolm at the very least should have realised that Tony would not allow Labor to pick at the current wounds during Question Time on Monday. Not only that, he gave away that he wanted as much time as possible.

He should have said nothing.
 
luutzu said:
I know our system is not that of the US's presidential politics... but I think most Australians go to the polls thinking they're also voting for who their PM is - not just their local rep.
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+1

I doubt that a lot of people even know who their local member is. They go to vote Liberal, Labor, Green or whatever and just vote for whichever candidate has the word "Labor" (etc) next to their name. They're voting for the party, not their local member so far as their thinking is concerned.

I'm sure that if you asked 100 random people who they voted for in the last election them most would say "I voted for Tony Abbott" (etc) or "I voted Labor" (etc) and not "I voted for (insert name of local member here)". :2twocents
 
drsmith said:
We see here Malcolm's strength in oratory but also his weakness in political strategy.

He would have done better to have kept walking when he said he would.
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You guys are funny :D you do want the LNP to win the next election - Right?

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Pure desperation and denial...he doesn't want to give them time to talk.
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[video=youtube_share;qS6hrRdIn9k]http://youtu.be/qS6hrRdIn9k[/video]
 

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