Does Gillard inspire confidence?

[Ves]

Geelong is going to be hit hard.

Let's get real though. Manufacturing in Australia peaked at 25% of GDP in the 1960s. It's almost under 10% these days. It's got nothing to do with the carbon tax. If what you say is true and Geelong is going to be hit too hard, then it's their own fault. They've had years to open up their eyes and do something about it.

 

[Macquack]

They are two completely different things. But the student threw the sandwich at the PrimeMinister not at the Office of the Prime Minister so I don't think it is fair for you to assume that the student has no respect for the Prime Minister's Office.

What a complete load of nonsense.

 

[MrBurns]

Geelong is going to be hit hard.

I'm told they're finished.............

 

[Miss Hale]

I'm told they're finished.............

Geelong finished? Go Hawks!!!!!

 

[MrBurns]

What a complete load of nonsense.

No it's not, when Nixon was impeached it was him who went not the office of the President, Gillard is respected by no one , it's not the office that's disrespected it's her.

 

[Ves]

They also claimed the cost was between $112 and $150/car. Not $400, which was a PwC estimate.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/96F845CF1AFA70BECA2578CA001E577C

Either way if $400 on a $30k product makes it uneconomic then it wasn't economic to begin with.

Also true - I was actually looking for these figures. I found the right site, just not the stats by the looks of it. Thanks

edit: 400/30000 is 1.3%.

 

[Miss Hale]

What a complete load of nonsense.

Bintang was taking the mickey Macquack.

 

[McLovin]

Let's get real though. Manufacturing in Australia peaked at 25% of GDP in the 1960s. It's almost under 10% these days. It's got nothing to do with the carbon tax. If what you say is true and Geelong is going to be hit too hard, then it's their own fault. They've had years to open up their eyes and do something about it.

If we want manufacturing we need to develop a base similar to Germany or the Scandinavian countries. We can't expect to compete on price and I think we've moved on from the hammer and anvil industries of the 70s. We're on the doorstep of Asia so the old line about being too far away is BS. Surprisingly enough, in many parts of Asia, Australia is seen as a source of quality products and services. It will lift us out of the mining induced productivity doldrum, although it will decade at least a decade, so I guess it will never get done.

 

[Macquack]

No it's not, when Nixon was impeached it was him who went not the office of the President, Gillard is respected by no one , it's not the office that's disrespected it's her.

You are full of it Burns.

Disrespect is not impeachment.

Impeachment is the formal process in which an official is accused of unlawful activity

before an appropriate tribunal .

A tribunal does not include your toilet, Burns.

 

[Ves]

If we want manufacturing we need to develop a base similar to Germany or the Scandinavian countries. We can't expect to compete on price and I think we've moved on from the hammer and anvil industries of the 70s. We're on the doorstep of Asia so the old line about being too far away is BS. Surprisingly enough, in many parts of Asia, Australia is seen as a source of quality products and services. It will lift us out of the mining induced productivity doldrum, although it will decade at least a decade, so I guess it will never get done.

High-tech innovation from the countries you bolded. As you imply, they make quality products in a diverse range of industries. Companies like Cochlear, ARB, Codan (maybe even CSL) etc are a good start. But we would need a heap more to be competitive on a world scale.

I think the "high cost" argument is lazy to be honest and indicative of why Australia's manufacturing industries are in the doldrums.

 

[sptrawler]

Let's get real though. Manufacturing in Australia peaked at 25% of GDP in the 1960s. It's almost under 10% these days. It's got nothing to do with the carbon tax. If what you say is true and Geelong is going to be hit too hard, then it's their own fault. They've had years to open up their eyes and do something about it.

I don't disagree with that, however what needs to be appreciated is, the country is the sum total of all its inputs.
You start removing sections and it has a ripple effect and with such a small base, it doesn't take much for there to be no base at all.
Then you are effectively competing one to one with similar economies.lol Where does that take us?

 

[Bintang]

Bintang was taking the mickey Macquack.

Yes, I was but I was also making a serious point which Mr Burns has well understood and paraphrased with:

"...... when Nixon was impeached it was him who went not the office of the President, Gillard is respected by no one , it's not the office that's disrespected it's her."

 

[Bintang]

You are full of it Burns.

Disrespect is not impeachment.

Impeachment is the formal process in which an official is accused of unlawful activity

before an appropriate tribunal .

A tribunal does not include your toilet, Burns.

Mr Burns made a perfectly legitimate analogy. He did not equate impeachment with disrespect.

 

[Macquack]

Mr Burns made a perfectly legitimate analogy. He did not equate impeachment with disrespect.

Well what was the analogy then???

 

[IFocus]

High-tech innovation from the countries you bolded. As you imply, they make quality products in a diverse range of industries. Companies like Cochlear, ARB, Codan (maybe even CSL) etc are a good start. But we would need a heap more to be competitive on a world scale.

I think the "high cost" argument is lazy to be honest and indicative of why Australia's manufacturing industries are in the doldrums.

After nearly 40 years of working in process control or automated industries the Germans win hands down yet we have the same technical expertise / engineering ability here what we don't have is good management Australian management in my own experience is a clear winner for being absolutely hopeless why I don't know its always being a puzzle.

 

[IFocus]

Well what was the analogy then???

You really have to be a right wing nut job holding a bushmaster with a 100 round clip to get that Mac......

 

[McLovin]

Yes, I was but I was also making a serious point which Mr Burns has well understood and paraphrased with:

"...... when Nixon was impeached it was him who went not the office of the President, Gillard is respected by no one , it's not the office that's disrespected it's her."

Since when did not respecting someone = right to assault them?

The comparison to Nixon is bizarre to say the least.

 

[Bintang]

.......what we don't have is good management Australian management in my own experience is a clear winner for being absolutely hopeless why I don't know its always being a puzzle.

As exemplified by the hopeless management of Australia's economy.
Now if we had managers who could inspire confidence that would be something.

 

[Bintang]

Since when did not respecting someone = right to assault them?

Never

The comparison to Nixon is bizarre to say the least.

The comparison was to Nixon's Office.

 

[Miss Hale]

Gah!!!! I am trying to listen to the footy on the radio and Gillard comes on so I change the station, then she's on the other station!!! It's like a nightmare