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Miss Hale said:
I didn't see anything in those text messages that was incriminating:confused: He referred to the supplement programme which he has never denied knowing about, there is no mention of anything illegal.

Kudos for Essendon for not bowing to the baying of the media who were all saying Hird must stand down. Love it when all those sanctimonious fools are wrong :rolleyes:

(Can't believe I'm sticking up for the Bombers :eek: )
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I thought it was fairly incriminating, he shouldn't step down regardless until something's proven.
 
Miss Hale said:
I didn't see anything in those text messages that was incriminating:confused: He referred to the supplement programme which he has never denied knowing about, there is no mention of anything illegal.

Kudos for Essendon for not bowing to the baying of the media who were all saying Hird must stand down. Love it when all those sanctimonious fools are wrong :rolleyes:

(Can't believe I'm sticking up for the Bombers :eek: )
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Completely agree Miss Hale. I've obviously been following this closely since it blew up in Feb and nothing contradictory has come out today.

At no stage has Essendon or Hird denied having any involvement with a supplements program at the club. They expressed complete surprise, concern and shock at the thought their program may have been in breach of the WADA regulations. To me this suggest they were very concious of working within the guidelines of ASADA.

The fact that Hird and Dank were texting each other regarding the apparent results of the supplement program on the players seems highly normal. Dank was open with what he told Hird he was giving them (in the texts) - and those supplements have been cleared.

The main problem for Hird is trying to defend the accusation that he has been injected with a drug that would be illegal for his players. :(

Duckman
 
Duckman#72 said:
The main problem for Hird is trying to defend the accusation that he has been injected with a drug that would be illegal for his players. :(

Duckman
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From his response today I think he can challenge that accusation but is not in a position to do so (because of the ongoing investigation). The fact that Essendon have not made him stand down suggests that he is in the clear. I may be wrong but that is my feeling based on what I heard today.

I'm no big fan of Hird but I'm just so sick of this whole drug thing which I think is trashing our game and people's reputations for the sake of a few journalists getting a good story and the government trying to look like they are 'doing something'.

(Rant, rant, rant....)
 
I'm not a big AFL fan, well, not since Brisbane fell off the top, but what happened to the days of the coach and captain being able to psyche the players up a level or two with their charisma, passion and intelligent management of their skills and a fresh cut orange at half time? :eek: Reign on King Wally!

Do all these drugs really give that much better performance in the long run, or just burn out players sooner?

Maybe, that's part of the reason why some sports are loosing their appeal, the players are more robotic and physical with less intelligent use of skillful moves.
 
Nothing but a witch hunt, started by the Feds. I hope Essendon stand by James Hird, to the bitter end if need be. This affects all of us.

From a Swans fan.
 
Whiskers said:
I'm not a big AFL fan, well, not since Brisbane fell off the top, but what happened to the days of the coach and captain being able to psyche the players up a level or two with their charisma, passion and intelligent management of their skills and a fresh cut orange at half time? :eek: Reign on King Wally!

Do all these drugs really give that much better performance in the long run, or just burn out players sooner?

Maybe, that's part of the reason why some sports are loosing their appeal, the players are more robotic and physical with less intelligent use of skillful moves.
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Hate to break it to you, but Brisbane were perhaps one of the worst clubs for this kind of stuff during the period.

They were heavily involved with a bloke by the name of Doc Whiteside. Most of the athletes that have been pinged in WA have had links with him, and I'm led to believe he also got involved with West Coast in 03 as well.
 
So hold on......

Everyone says that Dank was no good and deserved to be sacked. Injecting young players with substances that they didn't know what they were.............. Correct?

But Hird was fully aware of his work and congratulating him with thanks but thats fine... :confused:
 
Whiskers said:
I'm not a big AFL fan, well, not since Brisbane fell off the top, but what happened to the days of the coach and captain being able to psyche the players up a level or two with their charisma, passion and intelligent management of their skills and a fresh cut orange at half time? :eek: Reign on King Wally!

Do all these drugs really give that much better performance in the long run, or just burn out players sooner?

Maybe, that's part of the reason why some sports are loosing their appeal, the players are more robotic and physical with less intelligent use of skillful moves.
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Good points. I don't think the supplements they took would be beneficial or harmful, just a waste of time and resources that could have gone into doing the basics.
 
Gringotts Bank said:
Good points. I don't think the supplements they took would be beneficial or harmful, just a waste of time and resources that could have gone into doing the basics.
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You sure about that. My bet is they will be on the WADA banned list as soon as the testing is finished.
 
Trembling Hand said:
You sure about that. My bet is they will be on the WADA banned list as soon as the testing is finished.
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I'm thinking there might be a 'grey zone' for the supplements they were taking. Maybe not banned stuff, but just questionable (like the pig's brain extract or whatever it was!). But we will find out in August.
 
Once again Caroline Wilson's sensationalistic reporting is just disgusting.

Why aren't the ALP trying to put a stop to that?
 
Trembling Hand said:
So hold on......

Everyone says that Dank was no good and deserved to be sacked. Injecting young players with substances that they didn't know what they were.............. Correct?

But Hird was fully aware of his work and congratulating him with thanks but thats fine... :confused:
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Yeah, there's something else going on I think TH. Robinson was pretty quickly stood down too, so I'm suss on something.

Can't believe it's Hird though.

Can't believe he had the injections even if they were kosher too though...
 
kennas said:
Once again Caroline Wilson's sensationalistic reporting is just disgusting.

Why aren't the ALP trying to put a stop to that?
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Caroline "Greyhound" Wilson - she continues to live on hope that she will eventually catch that mythical "rabbit" of a story that will send her into journalism folklore.

Mark "I drink too much and write stuff" Robinson. Same boat, but he usually sees the bottom of the bottle before he does anything remotely successful in journalism.

The ALP won't stop them because it's a bloody good distraction from the election coverage.
 
Ves said:
Mark "I drink too much and write stuff" Robinson. Same boat, but he usually sees the bottom of the bottle before he does anything remotely successful in journalism.
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Yep, I've nearly turned off AFL 360 because of him, but Gerard Whateley keeps me watching. How Robinson holds down his position is beyond me. Imagine if he wasn't an Essendon supporter.
 
Danks sounded like he was defending Hird tonight, Andrew Dimetriou is a waste of space, $2M PA ? why ?
 
kennas said:
Yep, I've nearly turned off AFL 360 because of him, but Gerard Whateley keeps me watching. How Robinson holds down his position is beyond me. Imagine if he wasn't an Essendon supporter.
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I think Whateley is worse. He's way too (melo)-dramatic, has a touch of pompousness as if he is trying to sound intellectual. I swear he's gay. I don't even care if that's politically incorrect. I don't watch that show any more. It's two guys who you can tell haven't played much, if any, football in their lives.
 
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