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Ves said:
And you're only posting this because someone is picking on Abbott!!! LOL Snap! Have a great weekend Julia. :)
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Not at all. I've been very critical of Tony Abbott and do not regard him as any sort of saviour for Australia.
I just don't like gratuitous mocking of anyone's physical features, whomever it is.
Criticise performance and policies by all means, but it is indeed 'crass' to laugh at the way someone walks.
 
Julia said:
I just don't like gratuitous mocking of anyone's physical features, whomever it is.
Criticise performance and policies by all means, but it is indeed 'crass' to laugh at the way someone walks.
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I agree by the way. Just poking fun.
 
Julia said:
Not at all. I've been very critical of Tony Abbott and do not regard him as any sort of saviour for Australia.
I just don't like gratuitous mocking of anyone's physical features, whomever it is.
Criticise performance and policies by all means, but it is indeed 'crass' to laugh at the way someone walks.
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Given the criticism on Gillards appearance and your own gratuitous mocking on the sound of her voice why the sudden high moral ground?
 
Has Tony said who he's backing for Pope? or is He quiet on the subject, along with nearly every thing else. The less anybody sees of him the more popular he gets. Anything but Pell would be un-Australian, and for Tony un-mately.
Oh to be free to walk the streets as the head of an national institution that systematically harbour/harboured? and protect/s kiddie fiddlers known to them and not only seemingly be beyond the reach of the law but also have the political establishment tippy toeing around your sensibilities.
All of them Such character.
 
This a corker and nicely sums up the handout mentality that exists in Western politics...Everyone wants a surplus as long as they still get what they're "entitled" to.

"When you get rid of the carbon tax, you don't need the carbon tax compensation. Now we'll certainly keep paying a substantial proportion of that - exactly how much, we'll say closer to the election," Mr Abbott said on Monday.
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I don't think it's called compensation once there's no longer any loss. No wonder I'm so confused trying to tell the two parties apart!

"Families will be better off under the Coalition, no doubt about it. And if you don't have a carbon tax, you don't have to have compensation."
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At least Joe Hockey seems to understand pork barreling the electorate isn't good for the country long term.
 
IFocus said:
Given the criticism on Gillards appearance and your own gratuitous mocking on the sound of her voice why the sudden high moral ground?
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You might like to quote posts where I have mocked Ms Gillard's appearance. Re her voice, yes, like much of the population I find her strident tones just awful to listen to.
That is just a statement of fact or preference. It is not derision or mockery.

Quite different from likening someone's walk to that of a chimpanzee.

My main point, which you are conveniently overlooking, is your hypocrisy in saying that you find comments about personal traits crass, then going on to tell us how amused you were at exactly that directed at Tony Abbott.
Make up your mind. Either it's inappropriate to proliferate derisory mocking of any politician or it isn't.
End of my response to this silly matter.
 
Julia said:
You might like to quote posts where I have mocked Ms Gillard's appearance. Re her voice, yes, like much of the population I find her strident tones just awful to listen to.
That is just a statement of fact or preference. It is not derision or mockery.

Quite different from likening someone's walk to that of a chimpanzee.

My main point, which you are conveniently overlooking, is your hypocrisy in saying that you find comments about personal traits crass, then going on to tell us how amused you were at exactly that directed at Tony Abbott.
Make up your mind. Either it's inappropriate to proliferate derisory mocking of any politician or it isn't.
End of my response to this silly matter.
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Thanks for clearing that up using your standards (feels contradictory to me but what the hell) then I am OK as Abbott has on occasion walked like a chimpanzee that is a fact.

I certainly wouldn't however say he acts like a chimp that would be derogatory.................to chimps.

Funny I thought I was being crass.
 
IFocus said:
Thanks for clearing that up using your standards then I am OK as Abbott has on occasion walked like a chimpanzee that is a fact.

I certainly wouldn't however say he acts like a chimp that would be derogatory.................to chimps.

Funny I thought I was being crass.
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If you got up close you'd see he walks like a boxer/tough guy which, by the way, he is.
 
Macquack said:
A man who confronts a woman against a wall and punches the wall next to her head is no tough guy.

Abbott is a gutless wimp.
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Wasn't he young and naive?...:D:D

No politician will be perfect - just some seem to be much less perfect (even bad for the country) than others.
 
Hockey needs to be shuffled out as shadow treasurer. He doesn't have the backbone to hold the position. At least Tbull would tell Abbott there isn't a endless money supply to fund every scheme.
 
moXJO said:
Hockey needs to be shuffled out as shadow treasurer. He doesn't have the backbone to hold the position. At least Tbull would tell Abbott there isn't a endless money supply to fund every scheme.
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Sadly he seems to be the most economically rational of the bunch. At least he's realised there is no magic pudding, no multi billion dollar surprises of extra revenue for pork barreling. I fear Abbott believes the revenue will fall down like manna from heaven. They can't even support reducing the baby bonus after the second child by a paltry $2000.

TBH I wisht eh ALP would release a very down cast treasury estimates for revenue and then lets see how both parties go with balancing the books. No more nudgenidge wink wink we can promise the world then (que gay guy from Family Guy) and OH NNOOOOO we can't do all those things we promised.
 
Laura Tingle got it right after the last election as far as I can see nothings changed


There are two possible explanations for how an opposition presenting itself as an alternative government could end up with an $11 billion hole in the cost of its election commitments.

One is that they are liars, the other is that they are clunkheads. Actually there is a third explanation: they are liars and clunkheads.

But whatever the combination, they are not fit to govern.
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IFocus said:
Laura Tingle got it right after the last election as far as I can see nothings changed
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An $11 billion short fall sounds pretty good to me compared to labors $260+ billion debt - and that doesn't include the billions they started off with in cash...

Wow - we might have only reduced the starting cash by $11 billion under the libs. And no carbon tax. And no $6 billion spent on boat arrivals. Clearly labor are hopeless at managing taxpayer funds...

Don't know what you are trying to crow about here - but "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" comes to mind...:D:D
 
Tony Abbott may be the first PM ever to reconcile this nation.

I have discussed with Tony Abbott, involving Paul Keating, in our rapprochement with the Indigenous Peoples of Australia.

I will discuss it with Keating when I am next in Sussex St. or Parramatta or wherever the NSW Right now lurk..

There is much agreement in the non-muppet sphere of politics on reconciliation.

What a great speech by Tony Abbott at the Sydney Institute. A speech driven by the experience of a people's pain.

gg
 
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