Tony Abbott for PM

[Ves]

Tony Windsor did not support the Coalition because he wanted a carbon tax and would only deal with a party that would introduce a carbon tax regardless of what they said to the electorate beforehand. It's there in parliamentary speech I refered to earlier, along with the obvious bile towards Tony Abbott.

Didn't Abbott also desperately try to pledge a $1 billion hospital (that he couldn't afford in his budget costings) to the guy from Tasmania as part of his "I'll save this country" campaign? They clearly didn't like his pledges at the time, I don't know why they're still talking about it in parliament other than to highlight his poor negotion skills?

 

[sails]

Julia Gillard of course is such a saint that she would never do that even if it was to her political advantage.

Tony Windsor did not support the Coalition because he wanted a carbon tax and would only deal with a party that would introduce a carbon tax regardless of what they said to the electorate beforehand. It's there in parliamentary speech I refered to earlier, along with the obvious bile towards Tony Abbott.

Yep, Gillard clearly did not mean a word she said about "no carbon tax". According to Windsor, in her 'negotiations" she made it clear to the independents she was intending to introduce carbon tax regardless of her promise and commitment to the nation it would not happen. That ties in with her saying on the eve of the election that she would view victory as a mandate to price carbon.

How could anyone make that comment after blitzing the airwaves for days before saying there would be no carbon tax under a government they led and deceitfully making it look like a policy change and then have the hide to say a victory would be a mandate to price carbon?

Shameful, to say the least.


Julia gillards carbon price promise/story AFTER her blitzing the airways for days before with her promise below.


Gillard's and Swan's commitment to the nation:

 

[sails]

Didn't Abbott also desperately try to pledge a $1 billion hospital (that he couldn't afford in his budget costings) to the guy from Tasmania as part of his "I'll save this country" campaign? They clearly didn't like his pledges at the time, I don't know why they're still talking about it in parliament other than to highlight his poor negotion skills?

Do we know how much taxpayers funds Gillard has thrown at Windsor and Oakeshott? I suspect that one billion will look like pocket money by comparison.

Smear the coalition and whatever leader they have all you like, but it doesn't distract from the REAL elephant in the room that is smelling badly. Good try at deflection, but it's not working. It only makes labor look even worse, imo.

 

[Ves]

Do we know how much taxpayers funds Gillard has thrown at Windsor and Oakeshott? I suspect that one billion will look like pocket money by comparison.

Smear the coalition and whatever leader they have all you like, but it doesn't distract from the REAL elephant in the room that is smelling badly. Good try at deflection, but it's not working. It only makes labor look even worse, imo.

I'm not deflecting anything, I am pointing out that Mr Conservative Spender (we don't waste tax payers funds when we're in government) is probably no better. Desperate people do desperate things, and both parties have desperate people. What is needed is a cool, rational head when dealing with policy, and I don't think TA is that man any more than Gillard is that woman.

 

[drsmith]

If the Coalition wants to convince the electorate they are ready to govern, it would help somewhat if they actually behaved like a Coalition.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ins-libs-of-300k/story-fn59niix-1226479148546
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ition-infighting/story-e6frgd0x-1226478968019

 

[Julia]

If the Coalition wants to convince the electorate they are ready to govern, it would help somewhat if they actually behaved like a Coalition.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ins-libs-of-300k/story-fn59niix-1226479148546
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ition-infighting/story-e6frgd0x-1226478968019

Instead of posting links to stories that those who do not subscribe to The Australian can't access, how about doing a simple copy and paste of the article?

 

[Ves]

Instead of posting links to stories that those who do not subscribe to The Australian can't access, how about doing a simple copy and paste of the article?

Copyright?

 

[sptrawler]

Instead of posting links to stories that those who do not subscribe to The Australian can't access, how about doing a simple copy and paste of the article?

I can't read it, however I don't think the article will be the definative point in the thread. So I will just wait untill it gets back on my page.LOL
I just think drsmith is being a snob and rubbing our noses in his effluence.LOL Sorry affluence.

 

[drsmith]

Instead of posting links to stories that those who do not subscribe to The Australian can't access, how about doing a simple copy and paste of the article?

I don't subscribe to The Australian. I get the full article by searching the article headline under Google/news.

Have you tried that ?

 

[Ves]

I don't subscribe to The Australian. I get the full article by searching the article headline under Google/news.

Have you tried that ?

Works for me

 

[sptrawler]

So youre not that affluent either. LOL
Jeez Julia, we are dinasours.

 

[sails]

I don't subscribe to The Australian. I get the full article by searching the article headline under Google/news.

Have you tried that ?

It has worked previously (on occasions), but no matter what I try it doesn't work for those two links. Keeps asking for the login.

 

[Julia]

So youre not that affluent either. LOL
Jeez Julia, we are dinasours.

I get the hard copy delivered three days a week so don't want a subscription as well.

It has worked previously (on occasions), but no matter what I try it doesn't work for those two links. Keeps asking for the login.

Same experience I had.

 

[drsmith]

It has worked previously (on occasions), but no matter what I try it doesn't work for those two links. Keeps asking for the login.

Both links still work allright for me.

It doesn't work 100% of the time, but for me it workds on the vast majority of occasions (>90%), and this from a number of PC's.

 

[sails]

Interesting article from Katharine Murphy (from the Age) and her take on the Handbag Hit Squad:

Handbag hit squad politics has landed in the national capital. You've caught up with this piquant phrase? It's what Liberal ladies now say of the Labor ladies lining up regularly to have a crack at Tony Abbott.

She also comments, "I don't think Tony Abbott has a problem with women in substance. That's my view, formed in close proximity."

Read more: Handbags at 10 paces

 

[Knobby22]

Tony's song (Oops I did it again)

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott says Prime Minister Julia Gillard should not be "swanning" around in New York "talking to Africans" , rather she should be in Jakarta talking to the Indonesian head of state about border security.

Unfortunately, The Jakarta Post reports that President Yudhoyono, the first lady Ani Yudhoyono and other Indonesian delegates had touched down at JFK Airport in New York on Sunday at 8.30am (10.30pm Sunday, Sydney time).

Tony has to start acting Prime Ministerial and go beyond the attack dog role! Or he won't last.
I think he could do it...new advisors are however needed urgently.

 

[drsmith]

Unfortunately, The Jakarta Post reports that President Yudhoyono, the first lady Ani Yudhoyono and other Indonesian delegates had touched down at JFK Airport in New York on Sunday at 8.30am (10.30pm Sunday, Sydney time).

It does sadly look like another case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing.

The boats keep coming though and perhaps it was a calculated decision to keep the issue in the headlines. Either that or someone in TA's office failed in their duties.

 

[dutchie]

Tony's song (Oops I did it again)

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott says Prime Minister Julia Gillard should not be "swanning" around in New York "talking to Africans" , rather she should be in Jakarta talking to the Indonesian head of state about border security.

Unfortunately, The Jakarta Post reports that President Yudhoyono, the first lady Ani Yudhoyono and other Indonesian delegates had touched down at JFK Airport in New York on Sunday at 8.30am (10.30pm Sunday, Sydney time).

Tony has to start acting Prime Ministerial and go beyond the attack dog role! Or he won't last.
I think he could do it...new advisors are however needed urgently.

Pretty pathetic performance by Tony.

 

[McLovin]

Tony has to start acting Prime Ministerial and go beyond the attack dog role! Or he won't last.
I think he could do it...new advisors are however needed urgently.

He never has and never will. Every party needs their mudslinger, but mudslingers rarely make for good leaders.

Speaking for myself, I guess I would describe myself as centre right and I find Abbott's views on most things far too conservative for me.

 

[drsmith]

It will be interesting to see his comeback.

Something along the lines that border security shouldn't be on the sidelines ??

Ms Gillard and President Yudhoyono have no formal bilateral meeting scheduled during the UN General Assembly this week, but will meet on the sidelines of event.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...cost-tony-abbott/story-fn59nm2j-1226480100250

Overall, he would have been better to let this one through to the keeper and concentrate on the 2011/12 budget outcome.