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sails said:
Aren't you looking the other way? No substantiation to your otherwise defamatory statement about Abbott?
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He can't stand the overwhelming glare of the government's problems.

There will be no substantiation from behind those tightly closed eyelids.
 
drsmith said:
He can't stand the overwhelming glare of the government's problems.

There will be no substantiation from behind those tightly closed eyelids.
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lol - maybe IFocus is a misandrist (hater of men).
If we follow Gillard logic (or lack of), then are all Abbott haters misandrists?...:rolleyes:
 
David Marr will be on Lateline tonight, to issue an apology to Abbott for the incorrect information he published about him just as The Australian did when they mixed up 'trust fund' and 'slush fund' in relation to Gillard? Sadly I suspect not :rolleyes:
 
sails said:
lol - maybe IFocus is a misandrist (hater of men).
If we follow Gillard logic (or lack of), then are all Abbott haters misandrists?...:rolleyes:
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It doesn't matter how smelly it is.

He loves his "Kick me, i voted Labor" T-shirt so much, he can't take it off.
 
The Australian's paywall can be bypassed by doing a Google search of the headline under news.

It's a minor inconvenience, but not a real paywall.
 
basilio said:
Well he certainly hasn't changed much has he ? Abusive, arrogent, totally destructive. I would be interested to hear his response to the whole story - apart from the incident where he intimidated Barbara Ramjam

And exactly what are this piece of xxxxs good points ?::frown:
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Said it once and still worth repeating in bold

Since that post two other people have backed up Barbara Ramjams comments on Abbotts intimidation of her.
And he still insists he "nver dun it".

Perhaps he should sue them for defamation to preserve his good name ( or the fiction he perpetuates regarding it.)

Another witness has come forward to contradict Opposition Leader Tony Abbott's denial that he intimidated a student rival by punching a wall next to her head during their student days.

The man, a student at the time, said he was outside the Student Representative Council's offices photocopying when "Abbott's famous flying squad of goons crashed down the stairs, threw me against the wall, kicked in the doors of the SRC, and started creating havoc".
Tony Abbott

The man, who emphasises that he was not involved in the SRC election, said it was extremely scary, as they were clearly looking for a fight. But he was so angry he followed them into the building.

"I saw Abbott throw a punch at Barbara Ramjan, but didn't see it land ... when next I saw her, she was in an extremely shocked condition, leaning against the wall ... I thought he had actually struck her, but I can see that was simply my assumption and rationalisation.

"If Ms Ramjan says the punches were aimed next to her head, I can't actually in fact contradict that ... simply I saw Abbott swinging punches, and certainly indulging in serious argy-bargy. I saw him swing a punch, I saw her in great distress."

The witness wishes to remain anonymous but says he is willing to sign a statutory declaration about what he saw, if necessary.
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Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/po...inst-a-wall-20120913-25ty2.html#ixzz26KLRxqRR
 
Whata a crock of BS...

Dopey Swan and Gillard the crook are just trying to turn the tables on Abbott after Gillard was found out to be stealing money and being all round dodgy.

The sooner we have an election the better I'm fed up to the back teeth with Gillard and her mob of complete and utter idiots.
 
And for the second witness to bully boy Abbott consider this statement.

I remember Abbott's offensive behaviour 35 years ago. He hasn't changed much.

I WILL never forget the night in 1975 when I was elected president of the Sydney University Students Representative Council. I beat the DLP candidate by 29 votes. The Trotskyite came third. Malcolm Turnbull, an obscure member of the Australia Party Club, came fourth.

The DLP fellow, a decent bloke whom I now count as a friend, congratulated me, demanded a recount, and told me in a jovial fashion that he would win next time.

I also remember the night in 1977 when Barbara Ramjan was elected president of the SRC. I was her campaign manager. I was there. The big difference was the behaviour of the losing DLP candidate, Tony Abbott. He, too, said he would win next time (he was right), but there were no pleasantries.


David Marr, in his Quarterly Essay 47, ''Political Animal: The Making of Tony Abbott'', quotes Ramjan as thinking that Abbott was about to congratulate her (as my opponent had done two years before). But she was mistaken: ''That's not what he wanted. He came to within an inch of my nose and punched the wall on either side of my head.''

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He asserts that ''there are no witnesses'' and proclaims, ''the only evidence that a punch was delivered to a wall at Sydney University in 1977 turns on an aggrieved person's memory''.

Wrong.
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Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/abbotts-habits-die-hard-20120912-25snx.html#ixzz26KLxo8Xg

You can check out the full story at the link.

(Why is it so hard to post an extract from a story ? My uploads keep getting bounced until I cut them to pieces. Any reasons Mods ? )
 
basilio said:
And for the second witness to bully boy Abbott consider this statement.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/abbotts-habits-die-hard-20120912-25snx.html#ixzz26KLxo8Xg

You can check out the full story at the link.

(Why is it so hard to post an extract from a story ? My uploads keep getting bounced until I cut them to pieces. Any reasons Mods ? )
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Basilo, if you are so concerned about something that MIGHT have happened 35 years ago to the opposition leader, why aren't you even more keen to find out if the PM had anything to do with missing union money and a slush fund only 17 years ago?

It seems the left are desperate to try and get dirt on Abbott while keeping their heads in the sand on the pages of scanned documents that could implicate Gillard found on Michael Smith's site. Even McClellend raised this issue about Gillard in Parliament. I doubt it will go away.

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/
 
Yeah.... :sleeping:

We all know Tones is a headkicker basilio. Sails is onto it, an amateurish attempt at diversion.
 
I think he is in trouble over this, plenty of witnesses and his cant remember or denial digs a deeper hole.

Everyone knows it is / was part of his character ask Pauline Hanson.

Its fascinating reading about his behaviour as a student.
 
IFocus said:
I think he is in trouble over this, plenty of witnesses and his cant remember or denial digs a deeper hole.

Everyone knows it is / was part of his character ask Pauline Hanson.

Its fascinating reading about his behaviour as a student.
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You forget something...........people couldn't care less., this is our paid polititians playing games instead of doing their job.
Gillards another matter, nasty piece of work and crooked.
 
I don't think the incident itself is all that much of a problem for him. I mean, what does it tell us about Abbott that we didn't already know? That he is a fanatical hard-right religious nut who hates and fears independant women and tries to intimidate them, in this case violently? Pfft! Nothing new here, all stuff everybody with half a clue has known for years. I cannot see this hurting Abbott in any way. Well, maybe a tiny bit, but we are talking very small change here.

What is serious here is Abbott's lies. First he "can't remember", then he changes his story (after advice from his minders, one assumes) and flat out denies everything. Presumably, he did not expect that there would be so many witnesses to the violent intimidation incident prepared to come forward and give sworn evidence - he could have shrugged off the original incident as something stupid he did as a young man, and now regrets (hey - every single one of us has done dumb stuff at that age) but now he has to explain why he lied about it. That's a big, big problem he's facing now.
 
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