Gina Rinehart

[sails]

Next youll be accusing Abbott of also being "extremely left" for supporting that great Aussie legend Forrest in his quest for Aussie jobs.

A few of you should perhaps seek unification with China or something as your hell bent on being Un-Australian, maybe hook up with your Heroine Gina to seek succession from Australia and form your utopia Northern Economic Exclusion zone.

Un-australian...

You have a twisted idea of what is Australian, NC. The majority of Australians do not want this government. Anyone supporting the ideals of this government would be more Un-Australian than anything I have seen in my lifetime - and I was born and bred in this country.

I get the feeling you are trying to make it look like you represent the majority of Aussie voters (which you do NOT) and deliberately flame those of that real majority who do not support your mnority views.

Calling us "hell bent on being Un-Australian" is downright disgusting. Stick to the subject and stop hurling insults at other people just because you don't agree with them.

 

[numbercruncher]

The issue being discussed was giving away Australain jobs when Australians are available to do them and handful of you keep labelling this as left wing lunacy - what a joke. I do represent the majority of Australians on this issue despite what the Rinehart fan club like to promote.

As I just linked Liberals are now supporting Forrest in his quest for Aussie jobs yet some of you seem to this Liberal support the 457 replacement of Aussie jobs.

So you think im disguisting for supporting Australian jobs I inturn think your disguisting for not - all good bring the debate instead of the emotional sooky sideshows.

You chose to use capital letters that my view is minority - prove it , otherwise your words are as shallow as they are meaningless.

This thread is full of links to public opinion , policy and proof of lack of effort from team Rinehart to recruit Australians.

 

[numbercruncher]

Un-australian...

You have a twisted idea of what is Australian, NC. The majority of Australians do not want this government. Anyone supporting the ideals of this government would be more Un-Australian than anything I have seen in my lifetime - and I was born and bred in this country.
.

Another thing -

Wasnt even discussing "this" Government - they are the idiots that originally aloud team Rinehart so many 457s without adequately trying to locate locals.

My discussion here isnt either side of polictics as they both seem close enough to centre to be the same kind of idiots to me. Some made bigger screwups that others.

Anyway go start a generalist politics thread if you want to rant off topic.

 

[Logique]

Gina Rinehart is creating jobs for Australians - right now. She isn't waiting around to be wrapped in green tape, political correctness, Canberra talking shops, or union dogma. She's just getting on with it.

To all the Rinehart knockers, who's the hate media now. Who's being negative now.

 

[numbercruncher]

Despite what the minoroty think this is being cracked down on.

MINING companies seeking foreign labour to plug skills gaps will be required to advertise jobs on a Federal Government website to give Australians first crack at new positions.

The Resources Sector Jobs Board went live yesterday.

"Those concerns arose from a lack of assurances that any process was in place to assess the resources sector's skilled and semi-skilled labour requirements," he said.

"At the time of the announcement, there had been no independent evidence to back up claims by mining magnates like Gina Rinehart that there aren't enough Australian workers to meet the needs of future resources projects."

The Resources Sector Jobs Board can be found at jobsearch.gov.au/resourcesectorjobs

Funny enough there is only 100 odd jobs available when I looked today - but its a step in the right direction.

 

[Calliope]

Gina Rinehart is creating jobs for Australians - right now. She isn't waiting around to be wrapped in green tape, political correctness, Canberra talking shops, or union dogma. She's just getting on with it.

To all the Rinehart knockers, who's the hate media now. Who's being negative now.

WA is looking down the barrel of being 76,000 workers short in the skills area by 2015. If Twiggy wants to train Indigenous Australians for skilled work in the mining industry then good for him. In the meantime the big projects, which will provide the jobs, can't get off the ground without the help of temporary imported skilled labour.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/business...nd-76000-workers/story-e6frg2r3-1226389902400

 

[numbercruncher]

Good to see some real effort going into recruiting for a change -

Training and Workforce Development Minister Peter Collier, who will head the delegation, told The Sunday Times: "No stone will be left unturned. We will stand on street corners and beaches if we have to. "

He said mining magnate Andrew Forrest was among 25 key industry and business figures invited to join him as part of a "crack team" to sell WA in town halls, expos and training centres on the east coast.

But I didnt read anything about these projects being "unable to get off the ground without imported labour" - nope another fabrication. And still no evidence of team Rinehart making a good effort to recruit locally - Guess if they wait long enough they may not have many to choose from ?

Twiggy is a legend though - True Blue Patriotic Aussie - very ethical.

 

[Calliope]

But I didnt read anything about these projects being "unable to get off the ground without imported labour" - nope another fabrication.

Your reading is very selective.

Two weeks ago, the government announced Gina Rinehart was the first successful applicant for an EMA and would be allowed to import 1715 foreign workers to ensure she has the 8000 workers necessary to build the $9.5 billion Roy Hill iron ore project in the Pilbara.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/mine...ur-campaign-20120607-1zz3d.html#ixzz1xY2C81DV

 

[JTLP]

JTLP - so your not patriotic thats fine - Im on Forrests side and it seems so is Abott.

I'm about as patriotic as you can get - please don't taint me with the same brush as your beloved government who seem hellbent on ruining this great land.

Despite what the minoroty think this is being cracked down on.
Funny enough there is only 100 odd jobs available when I looked today - but its a step in the right direction.

Ra ra ra - government bandaids to try and get some votes. Awful idea.

 

[Timmy]

I stand by my comments.

You can lead a Southerner to water, but you cannot make him or her drink.

Lazy bastards, not willing to relocate, and funded by a rich welfare system for doing bugger all.

gg

Any chance of some bigger generalisations before you head off for your six month stretch GG?

 

[Glen48]

If companies lifted the self imposed age limit to say 60+ instead of40 - 45 a lot more workers would be available.

 

[Glen48]

Bit like you can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think.

 

[Glen48]

Here is 1,800 soon looking for work:

Ford will shut down its Australian car-making operations for a week and consider possible job cuts as sales stall.The company is facing a 24 per cent slump in year-on-year Falcon sales and a massive $290 million annual loss announced last month.Ford on Wednesday said it will now have to close the Broadmeadows and Geelong plants in Victoria for seven days in July, coming just three months after 1800 workers were stood down for three days when a key supplier went into administration.The car-maker has also not ruled out future job cuts while adjusting to current market conditions, said company spokeswoman Sinead Phipps."We remain committed to our strategy of matching production to market demand," she said."We have also confirmed that we are looking at a number of alternatives to allow us to manage our production schedule through the rest of this year, including additional down days or the possibility of a down balance (to produce less vehicles per day)."Management has been meeting with union leaders as workplace negotiations continue, though no decisions have been finalised.In one hopeful sign, Ford's sales of Focus, Ranger and Territory models jumped 70 per cent over last year's figures.But this change still failed to compensate for the decline in interest for its well-known fleet of large-model cars.Earlier this year, Ford received more than $100 million from the federal and Victorian governments to ensure the company keeps its Melbourne operations going until at least 2016.Ford cut 240 jobs at its Australian operations last year.Union representatives and the Victorian government were unavailable for immediate comment.​

 

[johenmo]

So who's the

 

[IFocus]

Jobs required in WA are largely skilled so we need training particularly our youth yet in the southern suburbs youth unemployment is quite high, apprentice numbers are actually falling under the WA state conservative government how can that be so in a boom state.


We have the people but we lack the political will at state level.

In such an environment Gina calls the shots and buys her influence either directly through party donations (Bishop has a job for life) or through the media its a win win.

 

[numbercruncher]

I see your mate is getting closer to influencing the impressionable masses thoughts via media control ..... I would suspect a move into politics not too far off ??

MINING magnate Gina Rinehart is believed to have asked for three board seats at Fairfax Media and the unfettered right to hire and fire editors.

Fairfax, however, is yet to make*a formal offer of seats to Mrs Rinehart, although that*is expected to be made in the next 24 hours and to be for for two seats.

Mrs Rinehart is also understood to have asked for the position of deputy-chairman of the company*and*sought to have her alternative directors to be unvetted by the board.

Mrs Rinehart's Hancock Prospecting*has*increased its stake in Fairfax by 6.1 per cent in recent days and*is looking *to*move to 19.9 per cent ownership.*Hancock*revealed today that it had increased its stake in Fairfax to 18.7 per cent.

 

[IFocus]

I see your mate is getting closer to influencing the impressionable masses thoughts via media control ..... I would suspect a move into politics not too far off ??

Gina will fulfill Lang's dream of running the editorial of a national news organization then watch PM Abbott snap to attention when Gina wants action to further her ambitions.

 

[Calliope]

Gina will fulfill Lang's dream of running the editorial of a national news organization then watch PM Abbott snap to attention when Gina wants action to further her ambitions.

That's good news. With gina as his mentor he can't lose.

 

[Knobby22]

Gina will fulfill Lang's dream of running the editorial of a national news organization then watch PM Abbott snap to attention when Gina wants action to further her ambitions.

The next ambition will be to effectively shut down the ABC by reducing funding like Murdoch agreed with the English PM to do to the BBC. (Luckily it didn't happen) ABC24 can shut down and we can all watch sky channel.
That way everyone can sing from the same song sheet.

Gina has long requested a special economic zone where she gets lower taxes, less restrictions on harming the wildlife and the ability to bring in hoards of people temporarily, rather like how they brought in people for sugar cane cutting early last century. It will be very interesting to see what she gets after next election.

My worry is that we seem to have lost as a people the desire to do what's right for Australia as a whole. Itseems everyone, whether they be unions, oliarchs or big companies looking to get what we want even if it is against the interests of the country.

 

[sptrawler]

Here is 1,800 soon looking for work:
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Then you have a couple of thousand from the collapse of Hastie Group, another 250 from the Perth based solar hot water manufacturer that's closing. Then of course you have the solar panel manufacturer that is shutting after 25years, not forgeting all the One Steel and Bluescope workers being laid of due to furnace closures. The retail crisis and building industry slowdown labor is working on it.

What skills shortage? lets see next year if we can allieviate it further.​