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DB008 said:
What exactly are teenagers doing in a stolen car, at 4am, in Kings Cross????
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The kids are obviously out of control, but that does not justify shooting two of them.

ColB said:
Exercising their 'indigenous' rights in their country. How dare the Police strike a mere teenager:eek:
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That is a very low statement.

If you can't see that the police where heavy handed in this incident, you are a dope as well as a racist.
 
I read the title and didn't even bother reading the subsequent replies. This makes me so angry.

I'm 23, at uni and from a Chinese family. Having said that I was born here and have lived here ever since.

This sort of thing makes me so angry. It's one thing where it happens in a foreign country to protest something we are involved in, but to those people who do it here, shame on you. It's a despicable act, full of disrespect, ignorance and hypocrisy.

I can't see or read a report about such acts without getting incredibly pissed off. /RANT
 
I'm feeling distinctly uncomfortable with all this name calling of other Australians.

Especially with it being Anzac Day tomorrow.

Let us see what we can agree on, for the sake of our forebears whether they have been black fellas or white fellas, or as is often the case a mixture of both.

I like our flag, and do not like it being spat upon or burnt.

It shows a lack of respect.

That is my take on it.

These kids in Sydney and the coppers will have their say and day in court. It sounds like it all happened in an instant.

Judge ye not etc.

gg
 
Macquack said:
The kids are obviously out of control, but that does not justify shooting two of them.



That is a very low statement.

If you can't see that the police where heavy handed in this incident, you are a dope as well as a racist.
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When a women is stuck under the car as they drive over her then its reason to shoot. I back the cops on this one.
Pulling the race card to win an argument:D you can do better
 
Macquack said:
The kids are obviously out of control, but that does not justify shooting two of them.



That is a very low statement.

If you can't see that the police where heavy handed in this incident, you are a dope as well as a racist.
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Agree, there are other means to subdue an aggressively behaving individual...

CanOz
 
moXJO said:
When a women is stuck under the car as they drive over her then its reason to shoot.
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Whoa:eek:, didn't realize that.....should have read the link....was she killed?

CanOz
 
Police noticed the young driver and five passengers in the car and pursued on foot. Police alleged the car travelled along the footpath for about 100m as pedestrians jumped out of the way.

Officers pounced when one woman became pinned under the moving car.

"At which point OSG police drew their firearms and approached the vehicle to prevent serious injuries to the pedestrian who was now underneath the front of the vehicle," it was alleged in court.
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There will be a full break down of events in court and the whole lot will be looked at in the slow motion of hindsight. In the real world you get seconds to react and then driven by an emotional charge from the sheer stupidity of criminals actions. I don't condone the handling of the suspects after it but can understand how it happened. Imo it had little to do with race.
 
moXJO said:
... Imo it had little to do with race.
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Agree moXJO - far more likely the combination of drink, drugs and too much youthful gung-ho fueled on by peer pressure. More likely race (or gangs or whatever) is just the excuse.
 
Macquack said:
The kids are obviously out of control, but that does not justify shooting two of them.
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So how would you have controlled the situation, Macquack? There's a woman whom they ran over, actually under the car. Tell us just what the police should have done, remembering the kids in the car were showing no indication of stopping and would almost certainly have injured more people.

If you can't see that the police where heavy handed in this incident, you are a dope as well as a racist.
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For heaven's sake, can't we discuss this without your having to deliver personal insult to someone just because they express a different point of view?
moXJO said:
When a women is stuck under the car as they drive over her then its reason to shoot. I back the cops on this one.
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+1.
moXJO said:
There will be a full break down of events in court and the whole lot will be looked at in the slow motion of hindsight. In the real world you get seconds to react and then driven by an emotional charge from the sheer stupidity of criminals actions. I don't condone the handling of the suspects after it but can understand how it happened. Imo it had little to do with race.
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Agree entirely.
 
Macquack said:
Exactly, so re-read ColB's quote which he would not have penned if the youths were white?
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Sorry mac missed that before.
I think there is an ignition point that both sides are trying to force (in the wider community). Newspapers have kept the comments off the articles and placing the story a little further from view which is sensible at this time. Last thing we need is another Cronulla.
 
Macquack said:
Exactly, so re-read ColB's quote which he would not have penned if the youths were white?
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If the youths were white we probably wouldn't be even debating the actions of Police surrounding this incident. It is the actions of the indigenous demonstrating outside NSW Parliament over the alleged ill-treatment of the 'offender/s' that have raised the race card issue.

My comments which were very much tongue in cheek were aimed at the bleeding left who would be the first to jump up and down and complain about Police inaction should these offenders had gone on to cause further injury or death.

In my opinion the Police had done what was absolutley neccessary whether the offenders had been black or white."

Re: Spitting on and burning the Australian Flag
Originally Posted by Macquack

The kids are obviously out of control, but that does not justify shooting two of them.

That is a very low statement.

If you can't see that the police where heavy handed in this incident, you are a dope as well as a racist." END QUOTE


Just another example of an arm chair critic not armed with the facts passing judgement on the actions of others whose charter it is to protect life and property. [ColB]
 
ColB said:
Just another example of an arm chair critic not armed with the facts passing judgement on the actions of others whose charter it is to protect life and property. [ColB]
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Yes Col, and to call someone racist is a common slur used by the intolerant. You can safely ignore it.
 
Macquack, I understand you hold firm views, but using the word racist in this context is not useful. As a victim of racism, I would be extremely wary of using it myself, to describe another.

There are many other adjectives and adverbs in the English language better suited to your purposes above.

You run the danger of turning the word racist in to a pilgerism.

gg
 
If a girl was trapped under the car while it was moving then I believe the police did the right thing is doing whatever they could to bring that car to a stop, including the use of lethal force.

Once that car had been brought to a stop, and the passengers had been shot and were lying on the pavement, I don't see why that single police officer took it upon himself to dispense with his own kind of justice. For that, he should be brought infront of a court to explain himself.
 
McLovin said:
If a girl was trapped under the car while it was moving then I believe the police did the right thing is doing whatever they could to bring that car to a stop, including the use of lethal force.

Once that car had been brought to a stop, and the passengers had been shot and were lying on the pavement, I don't see why that single police officer took it upon himself to dispense with his own kind of justice. For that, he should be brought infront of a court to explain himself.
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That is a very reasonable statement.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
Macquack, I understand you hold firm views, but using the word racist in this context is not useful. As a victim of racism, I would be extremely wary of using it myself, to describe another.

There are many other adjectives and adverbs in the English language better suited to your purposes above.

You run the danger of turning the word racist in to a pilgerism.

gg
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Are u black
 
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