Does Gillard inspire confidence?

[nunthewiser]

what choice we got?

1. a nut chewing nazi moll
2.a god preaching chewed up nazi nut


at least gillard doing a cupla things of late thats an attempt at fixing **** ups.

vote 1 for gillard.

 

[mexican]

Don't know what all the fuss is about.
All pollies lie, just ask Tony!

 

[noco]

On the contrary, tonights SBS news indicates that the East Timor Prime Minister and President are warming to the idea. Of course dollars will be behind that.

I think Gillard will be multi facited on policy and will continue to move with overall vibes, quick on the uptake and prepared to listen.

The East Timorese have been very diplomatic in not rejecting Gillards proposal outright.
IMHO the answer will be 'thanks, but no thanks'. East Timor has too many problems of their own to be involved with asylum seekers. I would be very surprised if it gets off the ground.

 

[noco]

what choice we got?

1. a nut chewing nazi moll
2.a god preaching chewed up nazi nut


at least gillard doing a cupla things of late thats an attempt at fixing **** ups.

vote 1 for gillard.

Yes she is attempting to fix the 'stuff ups' she was originally a party to.
She never mentions the Home Insulation stuff up or the BER stuff up which she created.
IMHO it is all smoke and mirrors to make way for the election.

 

[Julia]

Meanwhile, under the radar

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/pol...en-start-program/story-e6frgczf-1225889424311

I'm finding it hard to see how Green Assessment of your Home Mark II differs from the Mark I version. They should just scrap the whole idea imo.

LOLOL "irritable bowel syndrome" ... mine is just downright ANGRY !

The concillatory words currently being used by our first female PM is stupefying the nation into a trance. All she needs now is a flute and we can all dance to her merry tune.

She is also further bastardizing the English language: in the Lateline interview she more than once said that she has "tasked" the appropriate personnel to.....". I hate this.

If we think for a minute about all this, the Labour Party has a huge win by simply being THE party that got a female into the PM position.

I disagree. I think the fact that she's female will play far less than the method of her ascension. And it only catches Australia up with much of the rest of the world who have had female heads of government some time ago.

Rudd knew all along that this would happen and was well prepared for it. Conspiracy theory you betcha Crocodile tears from the Billy Graham look alike were all just that. He's off to do what he always wanted to do..not be PM.

Sorry, disagree again. I do not think Rudd even saw this coming. He was devastated. Yes, he eventually wanted to sit on that seat at the UN but he did not want the humiliation of being tossed out of the Prime Ministership.

On the contrary, tonights SBS news indicates that the East Timor Prime Minister and President are warming to the idea. Of course dollars will be behind that.

Um, that might be a bit of an overstatement, Explod. They have just said they are prepared to have some dialogue about it. As with the RSPT, the dialogue should have been held before she came out and made an announcement that suggested it was a fait accompli. Why don't they learn from their mistakes?

 

[Julia]

The following comment from a reader of one of the articles on the Gillard Timor Solution seems to sum up their situation:

The Oracle Posted at 9:54 AM Today
I live in the heart of Dili in East Timor. Let me tell you that most of the expatriate population here think this suggestion is nothing short of ridiculous. This country is trying hard to solve its own problems, and does not have the capacity or the infrastructure to solve Australia's, a fact that would have been very obvious to the Prime Minister had she ever set foot on the place. Tap water is undrinkable, sanitation has considerable upside, blackouts are a feature of daily life, Dengue fever is rife, and many roads have dangerous uncovered manholes. I do not believe there is any support at all in the local community for this prematurely announced proposal. I think that the people of Timor Leste are entitle to feel offended by the manner in which it was announced.

 

[noco]

The events of the past two days on asylum seekers is an absolute debacle and will not inspire voters who thought she was OK a week ago.

That's our Prime Minister who wants to govern Australia.

The honeymoon is over!!

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

What's wrong with the already funded Nauru?

It would highlight the John Howard government's success.

 

[Logique]

I have faith in the East Timorese leadership.

They know Australia well, they are nobody's fools. They see quite plainly what the ALP are up to. They will engage in this dance of consultation, offer and counter-offer, all the way to the election.

And like the big miners before them, will play it for the dollars, and insurance against the return of the ALP. But (and especially if the ALP's offer isn't generous) hoping like hell that the Coalition wins.

 

[Calliope]

Not OK with it at all, but, she is the Boss now. Having said that, we may not be at finalised policy yet. If you have stated that you are looking for everyones input (as she stated at the start of this argument) it says that you will alter policy on the run to follow the opinion polls.

Yep, straight out electioneering i'd agree, have confidence in her on that.

I think you are on the wrong thread. You are very much a victim of the Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[dutchie]

The events of the past two days on asylum seekers is an absolute debacle and will not inspire voters who thought she was OK a week ago.

That's our Prime Minister who wants to govern Australia.

The honeymoon is over!!

Rudd was a dud and Gillard is a dullard.

 

[explod]

I think you are on the wrong thread. You are very much a victim of the Stockholm Syndrome.

Someome has to ballance the absolute right wing bias around here. On the Syndrome, as a member of the Greens my observations are purely cosmetic within the bounds of this thread.

What's obvious is the continued marginalisation of the far right wing and of course the rise of the green vote will drive further nails into that in my view. So the vehemence and angst against Gillard is understandable.

And call me far left if you like, but unlike the so called communist side, our sin is that we like the trees to be left to grow.

 

[Calliope]

Someome has to ballance the absolute right wing bias around here. On the Syndrome, as a member of the Greens my observations are purely cosmetic within the bounds of this thread.

Cosmetic is right, but trying to make Gillard look good is just like putting lipstick on a pig.

 

[explod]

Cosmetic is right, but trying to make Gillard look good is just like putting lipstick on a pig.

Yeh, good point, but Howard, Rudd et al. never ever looked too crash hot either. But an ole codger like me reckons Gillard's okay.

And apart from the nasty connotation here, what has looks got to do with politics. My Grandma inspired confidence but she did not look that crash hot.

 

[Knobby22]

Yeh, good point, but Howard, Rudd et al. never ever looked too crash hot either. But an ole codger like me reckons Gillard's okay.

And apart from the nasty connotation here, what has looks got to do with politics. My Grandma inspired confidence but she did not look that crash hot.

Maybe Calliope has the hots for a certain man in budgy smugglers.

 

[Calliope]

Maybe Calliope has the hots for a certain man in budgy smugglers.

And maybe you have a sick mind.

 

[trainspotter]

PM Julia Gillard was going really well for awhile there until the push to "solve" the problems that are causing the polls to swing the Liberal Way were hastened. Policy on the run style. She announced she had spoken with the East Timorese President Jose Ramos-Horta about this matter. She then denies that East Timor was her final destination after the media catch on that the PM Xanana Gusmao had not been consulted.

This launches the media into a frenzy of calling this a copycat Ruddism on backflips on policy etc etc. SHEEEEEEEESH ! Tough crowd I gotta be telling you. There still seems to be this media idealogy of placing our politicians on a pedestal too high for the layman to touch. They are also too quick to sink the boots in when a rip in the fabric occurs.

I am uninspired by the Labor ideal of borrowing money and placing the Nation in debt to it's eyeballs whoever the leader is. Maybe that is just me being a business man and looking at it from a very simplistic point of view.

 

[Knobby22]

True

I couldn't believe how the ABC kept saying there is massive opposition to the idea in East Timor because there is already high unemployment.
Of course East Timor would love us to set it up there.

Cooks, clerks, guards etc. would be required; helping the unemployment situation; all paid for by us Aussies.

Also lots of public servants visiting and critics of the govenrment visiting to find fault. They would all be contributing money to the economy.

 

[Calliope]

Now we know. The ETS (East Timor Solution) was just one of Julia's visions to control irregular people movements, (illegal immigrants) while going forward.

This is a classic in obfuscation;

Michael Smith's interview with Gillard on Brisbane Radio 4BC yesterday.

GILLARD: I did outline a vision, and the vision was for a regional processing centre, and that is important because it completely undercuts the people-smuggling market.

Smith: So where will it be?

Gillard: I'm not going to leave, er, undisturbed the impression that I made an announcement about a specific location.

Smith: Where will it be then?

Gillard: Well we will have the discussions and they have started already.

Smith: Yeah, but where will it be?

Gillard: Well, this will have to emerge from the work with our regional neighbours.

Smith: So you don't know?

Gillard: That's exactly why I said there will be no quick fix.

Smith: Do you know where your regional processing centre will be?

Gillard: Er, what I've said . . . no, what I've said is this consensus about a regional processing centre, where it would be, how it would work, all of those things would need to come out of the regional dialogue.

Smith: Have you got a plan?

Gillard: Well, clearly I've got a vision for what would undercut the people-smuggling trade to our country.

Smith: So you've got a vision.

Gillard: What is new is that I have commenced the discussions on it, and I've got the determination to get it done.

Smith: You haven't answered the question though. Have you got a plan?

Gillard: Well I've just outlined to you exactly what I'm doing.

Smith: So you've got a vision.

Gillard: Well, I've obviously got this plan about a regional processing centre and we are pursuing it through discussions and I've got a determination to get it done.

Smith: You've got a plan about a regional processing centre and you can't tell me where it will be.

Gillard: Well, this is what needs to emerge from our discussions with our regional partners.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...of-the-timor-sea/story-e6frg6zo-1225889573536

 

[sails]

...I am uninspired by the Labor ideal of borrowing money and placing the Nation in debt to it's eyeballs whoever the leader is. Maybe that is just me being a business man and looking at it from a very simplistic point of view.

I agree with this, TS. I would be just as concerned if it were the Libs that were so very willing to place our nation in debt to it's eyeballs. It's nothing personal about a leader...

I think it comes down to party policy rather than the leaders who happen to be there at the time. Party policy remains despite leadership changes.