Does Gillard inspire confidence?

[GumbyLearner]

Re: Julia Gillard Stockholm Syndrome

This is one time Gumby that if you were in the same room as me I would actually give you a bit of man loving. Post of the month right here !

Cheers TS.

I thought it a kick-**** post myself.

Otherwise i wouldn't have talked about it or raised it as a topic. Got to love those ballot stuffing non-representative men/women!

And Jose Teixeira was never a member of the Queensland Labor Party?

You have got to love the smoothness in this BS!!!!!!!!!

 

[GumbyLearner]

Re: Julia Gillard Stockholm Syndrome

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[noco]

Re: Julia Gillard Stockholm Syndrome

Gillard won't use Naru already establihed facilties because it is the Coalition's original policy. But it is my belief she would dearly love to go there. If she did
she would be lowering her dignitary to go back to the Pacific solution but instead would rather waste more tax payers money to set up in East Timor. Don't worry about cost, so long as it gets her back into parliament and power.
I think our Prime Minister is starting to dig a very big hole for herself that she won't be able to climb out of.

 

[explod]

Re: Julia Gillard Stockholm Syndrome

We seem to have drifted form the Stockholm syndrome somewhat folks.

But on asylum seekers, processing should be done within our own borders up front, they are either genuine or they ar not, Gillard made that statement a few days ago herself.

Proved genuine they stay, not then back to thier own country irregardless.

And within our own administratiuon you would think it not only more efficient but would reduce chances of error or outside political collusion etc.

Gillard looks very nice, gives me a warm and cosy feeling like one of my school teachers use to, so look out.

 

[Calliope]

Re: Julia Gillard Stockholm Syndrome

It is not surprising thaf Gillard has enchanted most of the media and temporarily a few vascillating ASF members. She has soothed peoples worries on the mining tax and the boats problem, by actually doing nothing but backing down.

What she has achieved is the perception that she is a fixer, with some well executed spin. She will similarly "fix" carbon pollution, and everybody will be happy...left, right and centre.

Poor old Abbott is way out of his depth. His minders should take him by the scruff of the neck and make him cut out the "but, but, buts" and the "well - look - ahs and umms."

He had an easy interview with Madonna King on AM this morning but again he behaved like a rabbit caught in the headlights. I know he can't divert awkward questions like Gillard does, with a squinty-eyed girlish chuckle, but he could loosen up, for god's sake, and stop trying to look and sound so earnest.

 

[Mofra]

John Faulkner is to retire after the election. Rats leaving a sinking ship me thinks. Lindsay Tanner the first to go. Hmmmmm ... watch this space.

They were the last of the Kevin 07 zealots. Faulkner would have been demoted post-election IMO.

 

[Calliope]

They were the last of the Kevin 07 zealots. Faulkner would have been demoted post-election IMO.

Both Tanner and Faulkner have denied that their departure has anything to do with Rudd's political assassination. But that's normal practice, to deny the obvious.

I hope Gillard doesn't reward Senator Conroy, who was one of the instigators, with a promotion. He has reached his level of incompetence now.

 

[Logique]

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...n-x2026-how-about-gillard-20100707-100k2.html
Children won't be left to drown … how about Gillard? MIRANDA DEVINE July 8, 2010.
Quote:
"How stupid does Julia Gillard think "redneck central'' is? She can't honestly believe voters in marginal electorates will fall for her election-eve volte-face on asylum seekers, unveiled in a speech this week to the Lowy Institute......

...Now all the usual suspects who pummelled the Howard government are lining up to support Gillard. Malcolm Fraser called in to Melbourne ABC radio yesterday to praise Gillard: "I think the Prime Minister needs to be given credit for her speech", and saying her policy was "quite different" to the opposition's policy that "takes people and drags them off to Nauru".

And there is Burnside, who said in February, "The idea of reopening Nauru as a place of detention is unnecessary, absurdly expensive and morally bankrupt.'' He slagged off Abbott as a "utilitarian", who would be shunned by priests at St Patrick's seminary and had a "pretended devotion to Christianity".

Oh, but now, he's impressed with Gillard's "Dili solution"". Unquote

The Nauru facility, however sad and oppressive, is already built. But a bucket of money, and (even more) diplomatic friction would need to be thrown at East Timor to duplicate the processing over there.

 

[Julia]

Finally, Tony Jones on Lateline last night actually demonstrated some objectivity and persisted with the hard questions in an interview with Ms Gillard about her proposed Timor solution. It's worth watching for anyone who hasn't seen it.
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/

Ms Gillard was clearly struggling and the smile was very forced.

She has really stuffed up with this. Not only is it perfectly obviously nearly identical to the Pacific Solution where we have already paid for the provision of appropriate facilities now lying empty, she has failed to observe protocol in her failure to direct her first overtures to Timor's Prime Minister, who is no doubt now feeling a bit miffed about this. (How would Ms Gillard be feeling if another nation, wanting to establish a similar program in Australia, directed their first enquiry to Governor-General, Quentin Bryce?

Timor has an unemployment rate of around 40%. They are going to be less than thrilled about the influx.

The other relevant factor is that most of the asylum seekers are Muslim.
Not sure how well this will sit with the predominantly Catholic Timorese, especially if they are to circulate freely in the community.

 

[drsmith]

Meanwhile, under the radar

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/pol...en-start-program/story-e6frgczf-1225889424311

 

[noco]

Finally, Tony Jones on Lateline last night actually demonstrated some objectivity and persisted with the hard questions in an interview with Ms Gillard about her proposed Timor solution. It's worth watching for anyone who hasn't seen it.
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/

Ms Gillard was clearly struggling and the smile was very forced.

She has really stuffed up with this. Not only is it perfectly obviously nearly identical to the Pacific Solution where we have already paid for the provision of appropriate facilities now lying empty, she has failed to observe protocol in her failure to direct her first overtures to Timor's Prime Minister, who is no doubt now feeling a bit miffed about this. (How would Ms Gillard be feeling if another nation, wanting to establish a similar program in Australia, directed their first enquiry to Governor-General, Quentin Bryce?

Timor has an unemployment rate of around 40%. They are going to be less than thrilled about the influx.

The other relevant factor is that most of the asylum seekers are Muslim.
Not sure how well this will sit with the predominantly Catholic Timorese, especially if they are to circulate freely in the community.

Hmmmm, a rattled amateur describes her well. She certainly will not look at the Nauru facility, because this would lower her dignity to agree with the oppositions policy. She has not got too many other alternatives as she could not answer Tony Jones question on other countries in the area.

Thanks for that Julia. I only saw the last half.

 

[Calliope]

Julia Gillard;

"What I'm seeking to achieve through an open conversation with regional partners is a regional change in how we deal with irregular people movement."

Apparently a cure for irritable bowel syndrome is on Gillard's "to do" list before the election.

This really is a "move forward."

 

[trainspotter]

Julia Gillard;

"What I'm seeking to achieve through an open conversation with regional partners is a regional change in how we deal with irregular people movement."

Apparently a cure for irritable bowel syndrome is on Gillard's "to do" list before the election.

This really is a "move forward."

LOLOL "irritable bowel syndrome" ... mine is just downright ANGRY !

The concillatory words currently being used by our first female PM is stupefying the nation into a trance. All she needs now is a flute and we can all dance to her merry tune.

 

[Calliope]

LOLOL "irritable bowel syndrome" ... mine is just downright ANGRY !

The concillatory words currently being used by our first female PM is stupefying the nation into a trance. All she needs now is a flute and we can all dance to her merry tune.

No. Ms Smartypants has blown it. Now after negative reactions from East Timor leaders, she claims she did not nominate a Timor solution. Unfortunately she has no idea on any alternative. In fact she has no solution. She may have to defer the election for a while.

The girlish charm is not working, and the self-satisfied smirk is fast disappearing.

 

[ZincDust]

If we think for a minute about all this, the Labour Party has a huge win by simply being THE party that got a female into the PM position. Rudd knew all along that this would happen and was well prepared for it. Conspiracy theory you betcha Crocodile tears from the Billy Graham look alike were all just that. He's off to do what he always wanted to do..not be PM.
Now they will play the heart strings of isn't it wonderful to FINALLY have a woman in power.........the gullible electorate will fall for it..... voters will flock to the Gillard candle flame like moths.
As for the Libs all they can hope for is that the Aussie Boy syndrome kicks in an toughy Mr A complete with re-styled budgie smugglers appeals to the Ocker culture.
Ah OZ politics great one day perfect the next

 

[explod]

No. Ms Smartypants has blown it. Now after negative reactions from East Timor leaders, she claims she did not nominate a Timor solution. Unfortunately she has no idea on any alternative. In fact she has no solution. She may have to defer the election for a while.

The girlish charm is not working, and the self-satisfied smirk is fast disappearing.

On the contrary, tonights SBS news indicates that the East Timor Prime Minister and President are warming to the idea. Of course dollars will be behind that.

I think Gillard will be multi facited on policy and will continue to move with overall vibes, quick on the uptake and prepared to listen.

 

[drsmith]

No. Ms Smartypants has blown it. Now after negative reactions from East Timor leaders, she claims she did not nominate a Timor solution. Unfortunately she has no idea on any alternative. In fact she has no solution. She may have to defer the election for a while.

The girlish charm is not working, and the self-satisfied smirk is fast disappearing.

Dear oh dear!

It suited her to go with the flow on East Timor last night.

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2010/s2947634.htm

 

[sails]

On the contrary, tonights SBS news indicates that the East Timor Prime Minister and President are warming to the idea. Of course dollars will be behind that.....

Oh dear, she must be throwing taxpayer's money at them.
What's wrong with the already funded Nauru?
So you are OK with millions/billions more of Oz dollars being thrown out the door, Explod?

Gotta be repaid somehow...sometime...

 

[trainspotter]

*sniff sniff* ... what's that in the air? Smells like electioneering to me.

Is SBS independent? They seem to have more of a Left Bias at the moment after watching how they hosed down the East Timor backflip.

Once again no detail as to how many refugees or where they are to be housed or who is responsible. I though the East Timorese oppposition leader summed it up best when he said "We can't look after ourselves ... How are we going to look after the refugees?" GASP is that common sense or what ?

 

[explod]

Oh dear, she must be throwing taxpayer's money at them.
What's wrong with the already funded Nauru?
So you are OK with millions/billions more of Oz dollars being thrown out the door, Explod?

Gotta be repaid somehow...sometime...

Not OK with it at all, but, she is the Boss now. Having said that, we may not be at finalised policy yet. If you have stated that you are looking for everyones input (as she stated at the start of this argument) it says that you will alter policy on the run to follow the opinion polls.

Yep, straight out electioneering i'd agree, have confidence in her on that.