Deja Vu

[Julia]

Recently I've had a couple of quite unnerving examples of this while listening to radio interviews. i.e. an overwhelming sense of having heard the exact words before, and being aware of what was going to be said before it was actually uttered.

Now, I know this not to be true because the subject under discussion was something that had recently happened, so I couldn't have actually been remembering a previous interview.

I haven't looked for any scientific explanation yet. Thought ASF members might have something on this, and/or some experiences of your own to share.

 

[skyQuake]

Recently I've had a couple of quite unnerving examples of this while listening to radio interviews. i.e. an overwhelming sense of having heard the exact words before, and being aware of what was going to be said before it was actually uttered.

Now, I know this not to be true because the subject under discussion was something that had recently happened, so I couldn't have actually been remembering a previous interview.

I haven't looked for any scientific explanation yet. Thought ASF members might have something on this, and/or some experiences of your own to share.

Do you remember which takeover share they were talking about? :

 

[gordon2007]

I haven't looked for any scientific explanation yet. Thought ASF members might have something on this, and/or some experiences of your own to share.

'deja vu' is actually your brain short circuiting and replaying an event basically a microsecond after it has actually happened, thus one thinking they've seen this happen before.

Medically, it happens to everyone. However if it's happening on a very frequent basis then your brain is experiencing many electrical short circuits.

I'm no doctor, nor am I trying to scare you. If it was happening to me frequently, I'd be making an appt with a gp.

 

[satanoperca]

Julia,

I see it the other way around to the previous poster. You have had an insight into a unique ability to see/hear/feel the future one second before it actually happens. Hence when you hear it the second time you get the sense that you have already heard it. Unless someone can provide scientific journals to prove otherwise.

I hope I'm correct as it happens quite frequently to myself in many forms. It could also be the experiences of past lives, but that is another story. Deep meditation can discover many things stored in ones mind.


Cheers

 

[Wysiwyg]

If it is politically related then you have probably heard it all before.

 

[Muschu]

Totally disagree.

Why should science carry the burden of proof? Should this not belong to to the claimers of clairvoyance to absolutely prove their "unique ability" - unless they are "beyond" science.

As for meditation the research is divisive. I could go on but won't at this point or perhaps even later.

Julia,

I see it the other way around to the previous poster. You have had an insight into a unique ability to see/hear/feel the future one second before it actually happens. Hence when you hear it the second time you get the sense that you have already heard it. Unless someone can provide scientific journals to prove otherwise.

I hope I'm correct as it happens quite frequently to myself in many forms. It could also be the experiences of past lives, but that is another story. Deep meditation can discover many things stored in ones mind.


Cheers

 

[nunthewiser]

Mmmmm Pretty sure i posted this before somewhere

 

[satanoperca]

Totally disagree.

As for meditation the research is divisive. I could go on but won't at this point or perhaps even later.

Oh please, expel your wisdom on meditation, would love to here it unless you are of the medical fraternity, in which case stick it up ya pipe and smoke it.

Cheers

 

[MACCA350]

'deja vu' is actually your brain short circuiting and replaying an event basically a microsecond after it has actually happened, thus one thinking they've seen this happen before.

Medically, it happens to everyone. However if it's happening on a very frequent basis then your brain is experiencing many electrical short circuits.

I'm no doctor, nor am I trying to scare you. If it was happening to me frequently, I'd be making an appt with a gp.

That's along the lines of what I heard(that long ago I can't remember where). The difference being that the brain sometimes short circuits and sends the current information to the long term memory instead of the short term memory, hence we have a feeling we've witnessed the current events at some undefined time in the past.

Though it doesn't explain the sense of knowing what will happen next........that happened to me when I was a kid, but I changed what I sensed would happen as the Deja vu occurred when I was walking to have a conversation with a friend. When I heard the above explanation I assumed that sense of knowing what would happen next was simply the brain filling in the blanks.

Cheers

 

[Whiskers]

I go with the physic explanation.

Even when there's a medical explanation... it only explains part of the mechanics of how a higher level of understanding, knowledge, communication and wisdom works... doesn't it!?

 

[Wysiwyg]

What about thought projection?

If we consider the mind is a recording instrument and everything heard since the first "hearing" is recorded, then it is highly likely we will hear similar or same again without consciously knowing so. Add to the recorded data all of our dream hearings and then you have quite a large collection.

For example I walk into a shopping centre where there is "noise" and as I pass the cafe I do not consciously hear the woman sitting at the cafe table say to her friend, "I'm waiting to catch the 3 o'clock bus to Ulladulla". Although within earshot, her words are masked by noise. This single event is happening multiple times and at different levels of audibility. The child crying may well grab our conscious hearing attention but the hearing (vibration) doesn't stop by focusing attention there.

Later as I walk past the bus station to my car in the carpark, I overhear a woman say to another, "I'm waiting to catch the 3 o'clock ..." where then my memory cuts in and I say to myself, "bus to Ulladulla" as she completes her sentence.

I did not consciously hear her say that at the cafe but hearing doesn't stop with focused attention. I don't know why we can't recall everything ever heard? Accessing the subconscious memory banks may hold the answer. Maybe we recall via association.

So in a supposed Deja Vu scenario we may very well have heard same or similar and simply "associate" when circumstances present.

 

[Whiskers]

That's very true wysiwng.

Research shows that as infants or adults in an unconscious state, we can still display signs of awareness of people in close proxomity, especially touching and talking to us.

Your explination demonstrates what many might call 'coincidence' or random events agreeing or coinciding... but what if there is no such thing as 'coincidence' as most people understand and accept. What if there is a higher meaning and purpose for it all.

That's the question to understanding the next level.

 

[wayneL]

'deja vu' is actually your brain short circuiting and replaying an event basically a microsecond after it has actually happened, thus one thinking they've seen this happen before.

Medically, it happens to everyone. However if it's happening on a very frequent basis then your brain is experiencing many electrical short circuits.

I'm no doctor, nor am I trying to scare you. If it was happening to me frequently, I'd be making an appt with a gp.

There are various hypotheses being touted as explanations of deja vu. In reality they are speculations.

I had deja vu the other night, even the sense of deja vu seemed to be in the "remembered" episode.

Maybe it's Groundhog Day?

 

[Tukker]

Personally i have had more experience with Deja vu's little brother, Vuja De - The feeling that none of this has ever happened before.

Definitely more prevalent.

 

[Muschu]

Oh please, expel your wisdom on meditation, would love to here it unless you are of the medical fraternity, in which case stick it up ya pipe and smoke it.

Cheers

Seems it's not OK to disagree.

No I am not a medico. I have been a member of the Aust Psych Society [for about 40 years and have studied meditation and meditation groups for the past 17.

But meditation is not really the topic of the thread and I don't plan to start one.

Regards

Rick [non-smoker]

 

[Julia]

Julia,

I see it the other way around to the previous poster. You have had an insight into a unique ability to see/hear/feel the future one second before it actually happens. Hence when you hear it the second time you get the sense that you have already heard it.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I find it a bit hard to think I (or most others who also have this quite common experience) have any ability to sense the future.

'deja vu' is actually your brain short circuiting and replaying an event basically a microsecond after it has actually happened, thus one thinking they've seen this happen before.

That sounds feasible, gordon.
It doesn't happen to me frequently, probably about six times a year, so I don't think I'll worry about my brain frying yet.

Totally disagree.

Why should science carry the burden of proof? Should this not belong to to the claimers of clairvoyance to absolutely prove their "unique ability" - unless they are "beyond" science.

As for meditation the research is divisive. I could go on but won't at this point or perhaps even later.

Rick, hope you can overlook the impolite comment above, and add some of what you know about this?
With thanks.

 

[skc]

According to Morpheus deja vu is the matrix changing something on you...

 

[newbie trader]

"A déjà vu is usually a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something"

Normally if I have deja vu I attribute it to something that I have dreamt at some point in time. But the explanation for 'your mind playing tricks on you' seems to fit. But who knows.

 

[orr]

A good excuse to reference Joseph Heller;


"The subtle, recurring confusion between illusion and reality that was characteristic of paramnesia fascinated the chaplain, and he knew a number of things about it. He knew, for example, that it was called paramnesia, and he was interested as well in such corollary optical phenomena as jamais vu, never seen, and presque vu, almost seen.”

The episode of the naked man in the tree at Snowden’s funeral mystified [the Chaplain] thoroughly. It was not deja vu, for at the time he had experienced no sensation of ever having seen a naked man in a tree at Snowden’s funeral before. It was not jamais vu, since the apparition was not of someone, or something, familiar appearing to him in an unfamiliar guise. And it was certainly not presque vu, for the chaplain did see him. “

 

[Value Collector]

Julia,

I see it the other way around to the previous poster. You have had an insight into a unique ability to see/hear/feel the future one second before it actually happens. Hence when you hear it the second time you get the sense that you have already heard it. Unless someone can provide scientific journals to prove otherwise.

I hope I'm correct as it happens quite frequently to myself in many forms. It could also be the experiences of past lives, but that is another story. Deep meditation can discover many things stored in ones mind.


Cheers

It seems crazy to jump to super natural explanations, I mean out of everything that we have given supernatural explanations for, when we eventually find out the real cause, it is never the original supernatural reason.

eg. lightning and thunder used to be attributed to gods, but it turns out a rather simple natural cause is to blame.