Essendon - Supporter Support

[GumbyLearner]

I agree. Essendon deserve some credit. You can't have a dead even tackle count, with the losing side winning more contested ball and then say that pressure wasn't applied.

As Nomores said.."At times Geelong looked very rusty last night". Yes they did. BUT.....you can hardly say that Essendon were firing on all cylinders either! It was a scrappy skills display at times from both sides. Don't forget it was Geelongs accuracy and polish in the first half, compared to Essendon's untidy finishing that kept the match so close. Davey runs straight towards goal 35m out and misses a 70% chance, ball rebounds and goes to Stevie J who puts through a goal that was probably a 20% chance. That is what good sides do.

If Essendon takes their chances and Geelong don't, then the result could be quite different. Essendon are still a very young side that feeds on confidence. That's why I think the Mr Shuffles incident was so crucial. For a young side to go 5 goals up midway through the third would have given them such a boost. Instead they are looking at last years premiers closing the gap to 3 goals only 25 seconds later.

For the record Geelong remind me a lot of the Bombers of 2001. They win a lot of games on reputation. Other teams "hear them coming" and expect to be run down....BUT sooner or later the reputation is broken open.

Duckman

I watched the great game last night. The Dons dominated contested possessions in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. But then midway through the 3rd players like Bartel started to put their bodies on the line while trying to negate the influence of Stanton who played a ripper of a game. During the 3rd Bartel layed some heavy shepherds and Yablett rummaged through the packs to get the contested ball deep in the Cats defence. Selwood was quiet in the 3rd but came back hard in the final qtr. The Cats have a hard hitting blue-chip midfield imo that score goals frequently. That was ultimately the difference. But did note the intensity of Jobe Watson in the first half.
Encouraging signs for the Dons this year no doubt. JMO

 

[Putty7]

And we are away at last Duckman, all in all I thought they did pretty bloody well considering the last 2 Geelong games they were hammered big time in every department and every quarter, Hille might get a rest unfortunately but good to see the big fella being aggresive, hate to say it but Neagle looked woefull, slow and sloppy, can't wait until Hurley is back should give us a bit of enthusiasm up front, at the end of the day they stood up and matched Geelong for 3 quarters which is a big improvement on last year and Geelong are still are top four side. This year should see us in the top eight with points to spare and hopefully a second final.

 

[nomore4s]

Basic skill errors?

Yes basic skill errors. Missing handball targets from a few metres away while not under any physical pressure is a basic skill error, especially for Geelong.

I agree. Essendon deserve some credit. You can't have a dead even tackle count, with the losing side winning more contested ball and then say that pressure wasn't applied.

When did I say pressure wasn't applied?

Did I not also say Essendon showed some good signs? All I'm saying is Geelong were nowhere near their best for the first 3 quarters and once they started to play the type of football we are used to seeing them play the game changed dramatically.

 

[jancha]

Yes basic skill errors. Missing handball targets from a few metres away while not under any physical pressure is a basic skill error, especially for Geelong.



When did I say pressure wasn't applied?

Did I not also say Essendon showed some good signs? All I'm saying is Geelong were nowhere near their best for the first 3 quarters and once they started to play the type of football we are used to seeing them play the game changed dramatically.

Or the pressure dropped off which changed the game dramatically allowing Geelong to play the type of football we're use to seeing.
If the pressure had continued in the last quarter it may have been a different story.
Off the topic but who was the more polished outfit in the Hawks Geelong grand final?
We all know who but they lost anyway and only for one reason. Pressure football the same as last night game.
Like i said be interesting to see how they shape up to each other next time.
Someone backed Geelong 150k to take out the flag?
I'd be a bit concerned on that game.

 

[GumbyLearner]

1. Or the pressure dropped off which changed the game dramatically allowing Geelong to play the type of football we're use to seeing.
If the pressure had continued in the last quarter it may have been a different story.
2. Someone backed Geelong 150k to take out the flag?
I'd be a bit concerned on that game.

In answer
1. Fitness? I thought Winderlich went missing after half time
2. I agree. The Dons did play well and Geelong were lifted by Cameron Ling's game-breaker goal in the 3rd qtr.

 

[newbie trader]

GREAT LAST QUART (thus far) BY THE LIONS V WCE!

We are the pride of Brisbane town,
We wear maroon, blue and gold.
We will always fight for victory,
Like Fitzroy, and Bears of old.
All for one, and one for all,
We will answer to the call.
Go Lions, Brisbane Lions,
We'll kick the winning score.
You'll hear our mighty roar.

N.T

 

[GumbyLearner]

GREAT LAST QUART (thus far) BY THE LIONS V WCE!

We are the pride of Brisbane town,
We wear maroon, blue and gold.
We will always fight for victory,
Like Fitzroy, and Bears of old.
All for one, and one for all,
We will answer to the call.
Go Lions, Brisbane Lions,
We'll kick the winning score.
You'll hear our mighty roar.

N.T

Add this to your cheer and turn your jumper away from it's roots!


We love the cost of the living salary caps, because they don't apply to us!
Mmm..the remnants of Skase!

Noboby can help you if you claim a victory over the west coast snorters as a true contest!

 

[newbie trader]

Add this to your cheer and turn your jumper away from it's roots!


We love the cost of the living salary caps, because they don't apply to us!
Mmm..the remnants of Skase!

Noboby can help you if you claim a victory over the west coast snorters as a true contest!

It's ok to be jealous, a natural human emotion.



N.T

 

[AussiePaul72]

GREAT LAST QUART (thus far) BY THE LIONS V WCE!

We are the pride of Brisbane town,
We wear maroon, blue and gold.
We will always fight for victory,
Like Fitzroy, and Bears of old.
All for one, and one for all,
We will answer to the call.
Go Lions, Brisbane Lions,
We'll kick the winning score.
You'll hear our mighty roar.

N.T

Totally agree Newbie!!
It took them 3 quarters before they started to gel together ..... and some inaccurate kicking made it hard going early on aswell. Very pleased though with legs they had at the end. Some of the new guys also really showed a lot of promise ....
GO THE MIGHTY LIONS!!!

 

[nomore4s]

Or the pressure dropped off which changed the game dramatically allowing Geelong to play the type of football we're use to seeing.
If the pressure had continued in the last quarter it may have been a different story.
Off the topic but who was the more polished outfit in the Hawks Geelong grand final?
We all know who but they lost anyway and only for one reason. Pressure football the same as last night game.
Like i said be interesting to see how they shape up to each other next time.
Someone backed Geelong 150k to take out the flag?
I'd be a bit concerned on that game.

lol, Or maybe because Geelong's stars stepped up to the plate in the last quarter and a half Essendon were unable to maintain the pressure. You can keep justifying the pathetic fade out by Essendon anyway you want but the fact is when Geelong lifted Essendon couldn't match it with them.

How you can compare a Grand Final to a 1st round match is beyond me, there is all ways pressure in a GF. Geelong were the better side all year of that there is no doubt, but as far as the GF goes, they probably outplayed the Hawks in the first half but failed to put it on the scoreboard but in the 2nd half Geelong were clearly outplayed, I suggest you check a replay if you don't believe me. Hawthorn's desperation and second efforts were outstanding that day, and we didn't go missing in the last quarter:

 

[ThingyMajiggy]

The umpiring in the Saints v Sydney game last night was the biggest load of BS I have EVER seen.

 

[newbie trader]

Totally agree Newbie!!
It took them 3 quarters before they started to gel together ..... and some inaccurate kicking made it hard going early on aswell. Very pleased though with legs they had at the end. Some of the new guys also really showed a lot of promise ....
GO THE MIGHTY LIONS!!!

The relationship between Brown and Fev looks promising and its just the first round. They seem to already have a good sense of where each other 'are'. Good example was when brown got the ball under pressure, didnt even have to look and kicked the ball down field right into the hands of Fev. BOO YA!

N.T

 

[jancha]

lol, Or maybe because Geelong's stars stepped up to the plate in the last quarter and a half Essendon were unable to maintain the pressure. You can keep justifying the pathetic fade out by Essendon anyway you want but the fact is when Geelong lifted Essendon couldn't match it with them.

How you can compare a Grand Final to a 1st round match is beyond me, there is all ways pressure in a GF. Geelong were the better side all year of that there is no doubt, but as far as the GF goes, they probably outplayed the Hawks in the first half but failed to put it on the scoreboard but in the 2nd half Geelong were clearly outplayed, I suggest you check a replay if you don't believe me. Hawthorn's desperation and second efforts were outstanding that day, and we didn't go missing in the last quarter:

Anyone with half a brain knows that enough pressure applied in a game of football will create errors. That's where Hawthorn beat Geelong in the GF.
Doesn't matter if it's a grand final or a round 1 game. The intensity was still there on both sides Friday night.
That's why the game was enjoyable to watch imo
The way i interpret your summation of the game that Geelong got their act together in the final quarter leaving Essendon in their wake.
Not so much as Essendon ran out of legs and couldn't maintain the pressure which is more my line of thinking.
I think you should be giving more credit to Essendon as a real contender & not making excuses for Geelongs first 3/4.
Anyway we'll see as the season progresses.

 

[mexican]

Or the pressure dropped off which changed the game dramatically allowing Geelong to play the type of football we're use to seeing.
If the pressure had continued in the last quarter it may have been a different story.
Off the topic but who was the more polished outfit in the Hawks Geelong grand final?
We all know who but they lost anyway and only for one reason. Pressure football the same as last night game.
Like i said be interesting to see how they shape up to each other next time.
Someone backed Geelong 150k to take out the flag?
I'd be a bit concerned on that game.

I would be more concerned if they lost to the Bombers.
The Bombers look alright, but still a few years away yet.
Business starts after round 6 not round 1. As always the young teams fade away.
When Geelong turn it on they are great to watch. Even if it is for one quarter.

 

[brty]

I was at the game on Friday and it was a good spectacle until the last 10-15 minutes when the pressure was off.

Geelong looked sluggish from the opening, a GF hangover type of performance. They looked clearly underdone compared to the faster Bombers.

The turning point of the game was when Joel Selwood took a clear mark, was hit from behind, and the umpire called play-on, Bombers were 3 goals up, took the ball away and kicked another. This incident woke up the Cats, their intensity lifted and the game suddenly had meaning to them. The young Bombers started to be run down and the change in the game took a while to manifest itself on the scoreboard.
What Hille did to Bartels was pretty much the same thing that had happened to Selwood, only this time the umpire paid the mark and gave the 50.

brty

 

[nomore4s]

The umpiring in the Saints v Sydney game last night was the biggest load of BS I have EVER seen.

I agree, only need to look at Nick Riewoldt the wrong way and he gets a free kick.

Geelong looked sluggish from the opening, a GF hangover type of performance. They looked clearly underdone compared to the faster Bombers.

Exactly my point.

I think you should be giving more credit to Essendon as a real contender & not making excuses for Geelongs first 3/4.

Maybe you should take your rose coloured glasses off.
If you think Essendon are a real contender this year with that list you really are living in a fantasy world.

 

[Duckman#72]

When did I say pressure wasn't applied?

Did I not also say Essendon showed some good signs? All I'm saying is Geelong were nowhere near their best for the first 3 quarters and once they started to play the type of football we are used to seeing them play the game changed dramatically.

You didn't Nomores. Sorry if I implied that. I meant "you" as in "a person". I was actually writing back to Putty I think.

It is the old chicken and the egg story. You are saying Geelong looked good in the final quarter because they played back to their best. More truthfully, I think Geelong looked good because Essendon mentally and physically dropped right off.

Anyway all ancient history today.

I do agree with you on the overall shape of the Bombers team. We have a long, long way to go. I watched Freo play yesterday afternoon and we will be struggling to beat the Dockers on that effort (but they still are The Dockers!!!)

Hawks always worry Geelong, so will be a good match this weekend.

Duckman

 

[nomore4s]

I watched Freo play yesterday afternoon and we will be struggling to beat the Dockers on that effort (but they still are The Dockers!!!)

If Freo can play like that on a regular basis watchout, but as usual they need to prove they can do it outside of Perth. Should be a good test for both teams this weekend.

Hawks always worry Geelong, so will be a good match this weekend.

Yeah we do normally match up well with them and it will be a test of exactly where we are at, we have looked good against the weak teams so far this year but struggled against the better teams so lets see what happens.

 

[mexican]

You didn't Nomores. Sorry if I implied that. I meant "you" as in "a person". I was actually writing back to Putty I think.

It is the old chicken and the egg story. You are saying Geelong looked good in the final quarter because they played back to their best. More truthfully, I think Geelong looked good because Essendon mentally and physically dropped right off.

Anyway all ancient history today.

I do agree with you on the overall shape of the Bombers team. We have a long, long way to go. I watched Freo play yesterday afternoon and we will be struggling to beat the Dockers on that effort (but they still are The Dockers!!!)

Hawks always worry Geelong, so will be a good match this weekend.

Duckman

Come on Duckman! Geelong are more mentally and physically stronger than the Bombers, hence the final quarter result and the 50+pt turn around.
Give credit where credit is due.

 

[Duckman#72]

Come on Duckman! Geelong are more mentally and physically stronger than the Bombers, hence the final quarter result and the 50+pt turn around.
Give credit where credit is due.

Hi Mexican

I agree. You just have to look at a tape of the game.

You don't have 9 goals straight kicked on you, if you are a strong side mentally and physically. We just couldn't go the four quarters - in fact we couldn't go past 3 and a half.

Credit to Geelong of course. They powered home and did what they had to do. Their physical strength, experience and even "match hardness and fitness" all counted in the end.

But your comments reflect my earlier statement about Geelong looking like the Bombers of 2001. Sometimes teams start believing a "little too much" in their abilities. When games are close, it's only because "we weren't playing well". Games like last Friday's only help to mask this disease. Essendon's big turning point in 2001 was when they came from 69 points behind to beat Kangaroos. Everyone was aking the question - "Is this the greatest team ever?" The better question was -"Why did the team billed as the greatest team ever, get so far behind in a game?". History shows - other sides were catching up and we were starting our decline. The reputation of the Bombers helped win the game against North. The Kangas started jumping at shadows and they effectively lost it as much as Essendon won it.

Now I'm not saying that the game on Friday night was Essendon's to lose - but the same principle applies. The Cats need to reflect more on why they got behind, than how good the win was.

Duckman