Home Insulation Debacle

[noco]

So Rudd has taken over the HOME INSULATION DEBACLE?????????????

Obviously he has no confidence in Garrett to fix the problem, so he should sack him (Garrett).

Now lets ask ourselves, "who really created the problem in the first place"????

 

[cornnfedd]

I think self auditing is a great idea and the government should look at doing it with other industries as well, infact why not give the power back to the people? I would happily regulate my driving speed - if I go over the speed limit I PROMISE to let the government know so they can send me my fine. And think of all the money they would save not having to have all these pesky police and speed cameras around.

 

[Julia]

So Rudd has taken over the HOME INSULATION DEBACLE?????????????

Obviously he has no confidence in Garrett to fix the problem, so he should sack him (Garrett).

Now lets ask ourselves, "who really created the problem in the first place"????

This is going to sound strange but ..........Garrett is more important to Rudd now, than in any time over the past 2 years!!!

I agree Julia. It is not out of any great love for Garrett that Rudd hasn't cut him. Garrett was a Latham appointment anyway. But neither is Rudd being "noble and loyal" to one of his Ministers. It is entirely a politically motivated decision (and wise on Rudd's part).Under most criteria from which to judge the performance of a Minister's department, Garrett deserves to go.

There are two problems for Rudd - firstly his decision to "micro-manage" and control everything is very well known. It is extremely unlikely or extremely embarrassing if Rudd didn't know about the Minter Ellison report. The criticism isn't just a swipe at Garrett, it's also at Rudd. I think cutting Garrett with this as a reason would raise questions at "what did Rudd know?".

Secondly - and more importantly, if Garrett goes the next head on the block is the PM's. Rudd needs Garrett to act as a circuit-breaker, that's his role now. Labor can now astutely move to pile all its "greenie" policy failures towards Garrett and then at the right time drop him.

It suggests to me that there is a lot more crap to hit the fan yet - and Rudd knows it!!! By dumping Garrett now, Rudd directly takes the heat for the "mop-up" over the next few months. Negative stories every week hitting the media is not what Kev is all about. Hence we have a new Minister - Peter Garrett "Minister for Heat Deflection". The Coalition don't want Garret's scalp - they want Rudd's. It's just they need to break through the armour to get to the underbelly of the PM.

Garrett might not have been made to walk the plank by Rudd, but neither is Garrett back on the ship's deck. Rudd has effectively just told Garrett to "take a seat" on the end of the plank.

I don't know how close Gillard and Garrett are, but for Julia's leadership aspirations, the best outcome for her would be for Garrett to resign immediately. Hence another reason for Rudd to ensure Garrett is going nowhere.

Duckman

Noco, Duckman has already given a good rationale for Rudd's involvement.

I'd say also that, when you are in deep ****, it's better to remove the initiative from the Opposition and just jump in with the mea culpas.
viz Mr Rudd at a meeting with installers today where he actually as Prime Minister, fergawdsake, brought out his little notebook and made a record of individual grievances!!

I don't recall a Prime Minister ever, ever doing any such thing, and it demonstrates that Mr Rudd recognises fully how much trouble he is in over this mess.

Peter Beattie, Qld Premier made this behaviour an art form. He would throw up his hands, smile with a suitably penitent expression, and say "well, we screwed up, and are we ever going to take complete responsibility for putting it right".
It leaves the Opposition bereft of fire.

 

[drsmith]

Tony Abbott may be a secret advisor for the ALP on the squandering of taxpayer dollars.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=450541&postcount=197

 

[Duckman#72]

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=450541&postcount=197

Nice one drsmith. Well picked up.

Once again Abbott shows how far in front of his rivals he is. Just as he states - losing billions doesn't mean you'll get the chop as a minister. As demonstrated by Kev and Pete.

I'm with Julia. As a Queenslander, I say to Australian's in other States .......please, please, please don't be sucked in by Rudd (Beattie's) smarmy "Look, we made a mistake, we get it, and we are going to make it right" routine. Qld thought it was cute to start with, and now 10 years later look where we are as a result!!!

Anyone looking for some quality assets in a firesale??

Duckman

 

[GumbyLearner]

Rudd's bloodied meat an anaemic meatloaf
Tony Wright
The Age
24 Feb, 2010

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/rudds-bloodied-meat-an-anaemic-meatloaf-20100223-p0u0.html

Paul Keating had a typically gory recipe for those times when his government got itself into headline-grabbing strife.

''Toss a chunk of bloodied meat in the opposite direction,'' he would tell his staff. It was Keatingese for diverting attention from the bothersome matter sapping the government's momentum.

I like one of the comments from a blogger on the Age website with the nick
bitrich

Bitrich sums it up quite succinctly

Yes, our farmers have to compete against suspect meat, but our publishers and TV stations get handouts and protection against foreign competition and evolving technology. But don't worry about that. The PM will take "reponsibility" for any bad outcomes.
bitrich - February 24, 2010, 7:14AM

 

[c-unit]

Kerry just grilled Rudd on the 7.30 Report. It's nice to know that despite Kerry's lean to the left, he is willing to hold Rudd accountable for his numerous f*ckups.

Kev used the phrase "stepping up to the plate" at least three times in his attempt to spin out of Kerry's grasp. Pleasurable viewing for those tired of the Rudd rhetoric.

Rudd refused to talk about whether those in his department responsible for the mistakes would be held accountable, repeatedly using his "buck stops with me" line. Would love to know how Rudd handles this behind closed doors!

Thoughts from those who saw the interview?

 

[cornnfedd]

lol @ 7:30 report.

ill say it once and ill say it again, Rudd is an arrogant PRICK!

Great viewing.

ahahaha lol When he thanks Rudd for being on the show Rudd just gave him a death stare!

 

[Calliope]

It was great to see Kerry O'Brien take that lying weasel Rudd apart. If you missed it go to;

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2830544.htm

Click "Broadband Dial-up"

 

[REA]

I have noticed ABC has been more agressive lately interviewing the government however they are still banging the global warming drum I dont suppose it is easy to swallow pride when you back a horse so heavily.

My daughter has an investment property inner city Sydney The next door neighbour got bats installed and rang her up and asked if she was interested in also getting insulation installed at the same time, of course she agreed. Result flickering lights and the house now has to be rewired.

I heard an electrician interviewed and he commented that any house over 40/50 years is in real danger once the wiring is disturbed which in my opinion leaves many houses with trouble still to come. These problems will go on for years.

 

[Buckfont]

First time in a while Kerry O has really given stick to KRudd. And Rudd was basically arguing against something that he could no longer defend despite the fact that he would take responsibility from here on in.

What a gutless wonder.

It actually reminded me of the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, when, with no arms, King Arthur (K Ob) slashes his legs off leaving him totally helpless and the the only reply the Black Knight can come up with is ` Alright, well, let`s call it a draw.`!

I hope that all those that voted for him (and I`m yet to meet one) saw that interview and reappraise why they believe in his policies and reappraise the reasons why they will vote again, for the insulation, or should that be insult(ation) grilling that was on the 7.30 report tonight, Rudd had from Kerry no legs to stand on.

 

[noco]

lol @ 7:30 report.

ill say it once and ill say it again, Rudd is an arrogant PRICK!

Great viewing.

ahahaha lol When he thanks Rudd for being on the show Rudd just gave him a death stare!

If looks could kill, O'Brien would be dead meat.

 

[Macquack]

I hope that all those that voted for him (and I`m yet to meet one)

Either the last federal election was rigged or you need to get out more Buckfont.

The $41.2 million assistance package for the insulation industry is a joke. Now the taxpayer is going to pay for insulation "throwers" to do absolutely nothing.

 

[Buckfont]

Either the last federal election was rigged or you need to get out more Buckfont.

The $41.2 million assistance package for the insulation industry is a joke. Now the taxpayer is going to pay for insulation "throwers" to do absolutely nothing.

Maquack, there`s only one thing I agree with you on and that is the 41 2 mill. assistance is a joke.

As to getting out more, I do that in abundance across different age groups and I`ll still stick to my comment that I have yet to meet someone who voted for Rudd. Cheers.

 

[drsmith]

If Kevin Rudd wants to accept responsibility he should remove his sword from the taxpayers rectum and fall on it.

As it is he is just giving it another twist.

 

[Julia]

Kerry just grilled Rudd on the 7.30 Report. It's nice to know that despite Kerry's lean to the left, he is willing to hold Rudd accountable for his numerous f*ckups.

Kev used the phrase "stepping up to the plate" at least three times in his attempt to spin out of Kerry's grasp. Pleasurable viewing for those tired of the Rudd rhetoric.

Rudd refused to talk about whether those in his department responsible for the mistakes would be held accountable, repeatedly using his "buck stops with me" line. Would love to know how Rudd handles this behind closed doors!

Thoughts from those who saw the interview?

Agree with the thoughts already expressed. Kerry O'Brien has finally redeemed himself!

I can't remember when I've watched an interview with more fascination as Rudd, looking pretty pale, struggled to find adequate answers to O'Brien's insistent questioning.

I think he was simply shocked to find himself questioned in such a way.
Listening to him on the radio earlier today he had his usual confident tone when doing the "step up to the plate", "take it on the chin", "as Prime Minister I take full responsibility" stuff, clearly aiming to take all the wind out of the sails of the critics.

I expected the 7.30 Report to be just a further repeat of the same, but no, it was actually a genuine grilling.

There is indeed a definite sense that the media view of the government, and Mr Rudd in particular, is finally turning.

 

[Calliope]

Rudd has finally agreed to appear on the "Insiders" next Sunday after years of chickening out. But I suspect Barry Cassidy will give him a much easier passage than O"Brien. He was soft on Conroy last Sunday. Cassidy can't cut through the bullsh*t like O'Brien can.

Although O'Brien is a Leftie I get the feeling he can't stand Rudd. Many in the Labor Caucus must be feeling the same way.

Tonight Rudd tried all the weasel words in his collection except sending his "thoughts and prayers" out to those who had lost their sons or their homes in this debacle. Even hypocrites have to draw the line somewhere.

 

[Atlas79]

I enjoy watching Rudd flop about like a fish on deck as much as anyone else. But the lesson everyone, most assuredly the ABC, is not paying attention to:

Government is not the solution to the problem, Government IS the problem. - R.Reagan

This is the perfect demonstration. Could not be more explicit. We need a drastic reduction of government at all levels. The Libs might not deliver it but you know damn well the ALP won't. Don't let the ALP statists off the hook by letting them switch "brands" to a personality to one less cringeworthy than Rudd. That's what they will do before the election, 100% guaranteed. When these people create failures they change the branding and the slogan, not the product. The product is government and we have too much of it.

 

[Aussiejeff]

It was great to see Kerry O'Brien take that lying weasel Rudd apart. If you missed it go to;

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2830544.htm

Click "Broadband Dial-up"

My wife & I had a good belly larf when the KRuddster made this doozy of a gaffe...

KERRY O’BRIEN: Yeah, but that was another-that was another 14 months away. This has come to a very abrupt halt.

KEVIN RUDD: That is-that is correct, but I'm saying, even prior to this, the Employment Minster, for example, Mark Arbib, had in place a range of transitional training programs to take these workers from where they are now into a new set of skills and on to long term [size=+1]unemployment[/size].

Hahaha! So, the goal is to get all these workers onto long term UNemployment? ROFLMAO!!

I'm really surprised no-one else here has picked up on that one!!!

 

[Aussiejeff]

I enjoy watching Rudd flop about like a fish on deck as much as anyone else. But the lesson everyone, most assuredly the ABC, is not paying attention to:

Government is not the solution to the problem, Government IS the problem. - R.Reagan

This is the perfect demonstration. Could not be more explicit. We need a drastic reduction of government at all levels. The Libs might not deliver it but you know damn well the ALP won't. Don't let the ALP statists off the hook by letting them switch "brands" to a personality to one less cringeworthy than Rudd. That's what they will do before the election, 100% guaranteed. When these people create failures they change the branding and the slogan, not the product. The product is government and we have too much of it.

Well put. I'm in total agreement.


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