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Lachlan6 said:
Bring on 2010!
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Nice side Lachlan. Just like my side, there are some big question marks - Neagle at Full Forward, Gumbleton at CHF, Ryder at CHB. Also need to question whether Zaharakis is yet a week in week out proposition.

What has happened to Houli. He was terrible defensively, but he seems somewhat out of favour by selectors. Do you think he is ahead of Zaharakis in the picking order at Windy Hill?

Duckman
 
I agree completely with you're assesement regarding Neagle. He was definently the one big question mark I also had in the front of my mind. I think his biggest problem is laziness but no one can doubt his raw talent. He has the potential to completely turn matches. I left Houli out of the side a little reluctantly. I love his textbook raking left foot, however feel that his game may be slightly limited. I prefer Zaharakis due to his leg speed and the glimpses of brilliance he showed last year (ie ANZAC Day).

Obviously a huge question mark hangs over the head of Gumby and it may be a liitle presumptuous of me placing him at CHF, but #2 pick and he has shown he can play. Ryder would most likely not line up at CHB as he would be the logical back up ruckman for Hille (who I believe was the best ruckman in 2008, would take him before Sandilands any day).
 
Lachlan6 said:
Bring on 2010!
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Stanton on the bench? :confused: Seems people love him or hate him.

On Laycock, didn't Sheedy call him the new Paul Salmon at one point?

I wouldn't be too surprised if Ryder is tried in a few positions, including CHF.
 
kennas said:
Stanton on the bench? :confused: Seems people love him or hate him.

On Laycock, didn't Sheedy call him the new Paul Salmon at one point?

I wouldn't be too surprised if Ryder is tried in a few positions, including CHF.
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At least they are nor Collingwood or Carlton, what do you think Kennas?

Stanton on the beach??? :confused: Isn't he a Queensland property developer?;):D
 
kennas said:
Stanton on the bench? :confused: Seems people love him or hate him.

On Laycock, didn't Sheedy call him the new Paul Salmon at one point?

I wouldn't be too surprised if Ryder is tried in a few positions, including CHF.
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I am certainly in the former camp. I knew this decision would cause some controversy. Two things. Remember the modern game has so many interchanges throughout the match, that the old demotion to the bench and gathering splinters on the behind is now firmly in the past. He would probably come on very soon after the commencement of the game anyway. Also, it would depend on who we were playing and Welsh would probably go to a tagging role if we were up against Carlton.

Laycock is a long way from making this team in my opinion. He is not the player who can help to win premierships and I would be placing Bellchambers before him and looking to develop Michael Still also before him. He has had his time (he is lazy and doesn't do the 1%'s in a game ie chase).

Ryder is certainly versatile and I initailly doubted him in the backline but he certainly has proven he can play in that role. He is very exciting for our future.

Cheers :)
 
Lachlan6 said:
I am certainly in the former camp. I knew this decision would cause some controversy. Two things. Remember the modern game has so many interchanges throughout the match, that the old demotion to the bench and gathering splinters on the behind is now firmly in the past. He would probably come on very soon after the commencement of the game anyway. Also, it would depend on who we were playing and Welsh would probably go to a tagging role if we were up against Carlton.

Laycock is a long way from making this team in my opinion. He is not the player who can help to win premierships and I would be placing Bellchambers before him and looking to develop Michael Still also before him. He has had his time (he is lazy and doesn't do the 1%'s in a game ie chase).
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That was one of my reasons behind Prismall on the bench in my team. In todays modern game he'd probably be on within 90sec anyway! Although the stigma of being named "on the bench" still exists - it is disappearing. Geelong often start Selwood on the bench, but on paper he'd be in the best 18 in any AFL side.

Laycock has got a lot of work to do to get back into my good books. Promises so much and under delivers - to be fair he is playing a position that you generally take a while to mature into ....but still.

Duckman
 
Duckman#72 said:
That was one of my reasons behind Prismall on the bench in my team. In todays modern game he'd probably be on within 90sec anyway! Although the stigma of being named "on the bench" still exists - it is disappearing. Geelong often start Selwood on the bench, but on paper he'd be in the best 18 in any AFL side.

Laycock has got a lot of work to do to get back into my good books. Promises so much and under delivers - to be fair he is playing a position that you generally take a while to mature into ....but still.

Duckman
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Well it's nearly that time again, generally the bombers don't travel well to Perth but it will be great to see a few of the new recruits have a go and get an idea of what they are about to step up into, by the looks Hille and Ryder will change in the forward line later when Hille returns so another quality option up forward in either of them won't hurt us. Go Bombers !!!!!!!!!
 
Putty7 said:
Well it's nearly that time again, generally the bombers don't travel well to Perth but it will be great to see a few of the new recruits have a go and get an idea of what they are about to step up into, by the looks Hille and Ryder will change in the forward line later when Hille returns so another quality option up forward in either of them won't hurt us. Go Bombers !!!!!!!!!
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Hi Putty

You going to the game? Will be great to get a look at the "new" side playing together. I've got no idea on the result. Pre-season - anything goes, particularly away. I just hope the forwards fire..... any forward really. :)

Duckman
 
Duckman#72 said:
Hi Putty

You going to the game? Will be great to get a look at the "new" side playing together. I've got no idea on the result. Pre-season - anything goes, particularly away. I just hope the forwards fire..... any forward really. :)

Duckman
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The Dons have a good and young hard-running list. They'll make the 8 no probs. IMO
 
Duckman#72 said:
Hi Putty

You going to the game? Will be great to get a look at the "new" side playing together. I've got no idea on the result. Pre-season - anything goes, particularly away. I just hope the forwards fire..... any forward really. :)

Duckman
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No unfortunately, bought a Honda xr400r Monday so I'm all out of presents for myself this week lol, the recruiting of young midfielders and having two good ruckmen should help to increase supply into the forward line this year, hopefully disposal will improve as well, pity about Hurley but would rather see him ready to go for the actual season and blood a few of the new young'uns while the chance is there, I think the Eagles might trounce us but you never know, they have a fully fit list and it is only the warm ups.
 
Ryder out because he has a baby due. :-( AFL players shouldn't be allowed to ave babies.

Who's this Bock character? Can he play?
 
See the Bombers get PUMPED, PUMPED! :p:

West Coast were lucky they were up against such poor opposition, far too many errors for my liking.

One very good reason to smile though, Naitanui is gonna be a super star :)
 
On a positive note - no serious injuries ;) and plenty of new faces that were just there for the hitout.

Bock, Collyer, Hardingham all look like they need a season in the magoos.

Some good signs - Watson was fantastic, and Williams looks like he's going to settle in nicely. He is going to be a goto player for us - unlike at the Hawks. Still plenty of good footy in him.

Duckman
 
gav said:
See the Bombers get PUMPED, PUMPED! :p:

West Coast were lucky they were up against such poor opposition, far too many errors for my liking.

One very good reason to smile though, Naitanui is gonna be a super star :)
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West Coast could be a surprise packet this year. With Kennedy looking good, they could have a dangerous forward line, the midfield looks ok too with Priddis, Daziell, Kerr, Masten, Embley, Cox & Naitanui.

Why Melb picked Watts over Naitanui is beyond me.

Duckman#72 said:
On a positive note - no serious injuries ;) and plenty of new faces that were just there for the hitout.

Bock, Collyer, Hardingham all look like they need a season in the magoos.

Some good signs - Watson was fantastic, and Williams looks like he's going to settle in nicely. He is going to be a goto player for us - unlike at the Hawks. Still plenty of good footy in him.

Duckman
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Plenty of questions to be asked about the bombers imo.

I'm not sure how they are going to kick enough goals to be competitive tbh, Williams & Monfries will kick a few each week but then after that.....? They've lost 3 out of the top 4 goal kickers from last year, 5 out of the top 11. The other problem is while the midfield is competitive with most other teams they don't kick a lot of goals.

I also think Essendon are going to miss Lovett & McPhee more then they realise. Lovett added a lot of pace and skill to the midfield and he also kicked goals while McPhee was a great stop gap who could also kick goals.
 
nomore4s said:
West Coast could be a surprise packet this year. With Kennedy looking good, they could have a dangerous forward line, the midfield looks ok too with Priddis, Daziell, Kerr, Masten, Embley, Cox & Naitanui.

Why Melb picked Watts over Naitanui is beyond me.
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Well I hope you are right Nomore4s. One very important name you left off the list there - LeCras (best small fwd in the league last year).
 
nomore4s said:
Plenty of questions to be asked about the bombers imo.
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Hi Nomores

You got that right!!

One main question for mine - who the hell is going to kick all the goals. As you would see by reviewing this thread, our forward line on paper is likely to be one of the most inexperienced/weakest in the league.

Our forwards are going to put pressure on the midfield and backline again this year.

As for Lovett and McPhee - yes will will miss them but short term only. McPhee never reached the highs of his All-Aussie year (some time ago now). But yes - he was certainly a serviceable player (but he was often the player we would turn to as a stop gap - however in the last 2 years he was being less and less successful in that role).

Good luck for your guys Nomores - good win over pathetic opposition. Hardwick would be tearing his hair out.

Duckman
 
McPhee was over it I think. Shame for us, but with a new lease of life might be an excellent asset to another team.

Lovett....Lovett, Lovett...Could be anything, more likely a burden by the looks.

Goals? Yes, a problem. Williams 2-3 a game maybe? 40-60 for the year. Need one other to step up for 30-40 maybe, but who? Hmmm. Hille and Ryder changing out of a pocket perhaps? Ryder at CHF?
 
OK, Need a starting line up here, and some ideas for the ASF Super Coach Team for me. ;)

Some initial ideas were:

kennas:

B. Lovett Murray, Pears, Atkinson
HB. Slattery, Ryder, Fletcher
C. Winderlich, Dyson, McVeigh
HF. Davey, Hurley, Monfries
F. Welsh, Neagle, Williams
Fol. Hille, Watson, Stanton

Bench. Dempsey, Zaharakis, Hocking, Hooker, Prismell, Lonergan, Laycock, Jetta, Daniher

Duckman:

FB: Welsh, Pears, Daniher
HB: Dempsey, Hurley, Fletcher
C: Reimers, Stanton, Dyson
HF: Monfries, Gumbleton, Winderlich
FF: Davey, Williams, Ryder
Followers: Hille, Watson, McVeigh

Interchange: Lovett-Murray, Atkinson, Prismall, Lonergan
Emergencies: Hocking, Hooker, Neagle, Slattery, Houli

Ones to watch: I'd like to see Melsham get some game time this year. He looks promising.

Lauchlan:

B. Hooker Pears Fletcher
HB. Prismall Ryder Lovett Murray
C. Zacharias Watson Winderlich
HF. Williams Gumbledon Hurley
F. Davey Neagle McVeigh
R. Hille Longergan Welsh
IC. Stanton Monphries Meksham Dempsey


Quite a few took offence at Prismell on the bench, maybe he needs to be slotted in.

A few are out for the start of the season through injury and suspension.

So, any further thoughts on a best line up?
 
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