Saints vs. Cats: Who will win?

[mazzatelli]

I'd still say the Lions 4 straight GF, winning 3 of them has them as one of the best of this era.
The Dons were great, especially 2000 - but I'd rather say that was the greatest season of all them them being the best team of them all.

 

[Prospector]

Since we are talking about "The Greatest Team of All". Here's a test for you.What is the worst team ever to be labelled "The Greatest Team of All"?

And while we are at it, how about the most potential - lowest performer tag. I'll start with Mathew Richardson.

 

[jbocker]

Hey who keeps voting the cats will win.
The score was 24 a little while ago.

As far as best team goes what about Freo... ??
Poor old Harv's did he say Freo would be dangerous.
He must wish he didnt say that.

 

[Duckman#72]

And while we are at it, how about the most potential - lowest performer tag. I'll start with Mathew Richardson.

Ha...yes Richo is hard to beat, but I'll add a couple of names.

Clive Waterhouse (Fremantle) and Josh Fraser.

I haven't checked the records but he has been a disappointing No 1 Draft Pick.

Richo certainly takes it on longevity!!

Duckman

 

[Sean K]

I'd still say the Lions 4 straight GF, winning 3 of them has them as one of the best of this era.

Hard to go past that in recent memory. However, hard to judge different eras and just a few years can make a huge difference. The game has changed so much.

 

[springhill]

And while we are at it, how about the most potential - lowest performer tag. I'll start with Mathew Richardson.

From the same team, i'll go Richard Tambling. No 4 draft pick in '04

Here's the top 25
1 Brett Deledio Murray Bushrangers Richmond
2 Jarryd Roughead Gippsland Power Hawthorn
3 Ryan Griffen South Adelaide Football Club Western Bulldogs
4 Richard Tambling Southern Districts Football Club Richmond
5 Lance Franklin Perth Football Club Hawthorn
6 Tom Williams Morningside Football Club Western Bulldogs
7 Jordan Lewis Geelong Falcons Hawthorn
8 John Meesen Geelong Falcons Adelaide
9 Jordan Russell West Adelaide Football Club Carlton
10 Chris Egan Murray Bushrangers Collingwood
11 Adam Thomson Sturt Football Club Port Adelaide
12 Danny Meyer Glenelg Football Club Richmond
13 Matthew Bate Eastern Ranges Melbourne
14 Angus Monfries Sturt Football Club Essendon
15 Lynden Dunn Calder Cannons Melbourne
16 Adam Pattison Northern Knights Richmond
17 Andrew McQualter Gippsland Power St. Kilda
18 Cameron Wood West Adelaide Football Club Brisbane Lions
19 Ryan Willits Northern Knights Port Adelaide
20 Dean Polo Gippsland Power Richmond
21 Thomas Murphy Sandringham Dragons Hawthorn
22 Jesse Wells Tasmanian Devils Football Club Western Bulldogs
23 Sean Rusling West Adelaide Football Club Collingwood
24 Nathan Van Berlo West Perth Football Club Adelaide
25 Adam Hartlett West Adelaide Football Club Carlton

then
37 Mark LeCras
39 Travis cloke
45 Justin Sherman
46 Henry Slattery
56 Chris Knights
62 Matthew Egan

 

[Prospector]

And we could do a similar post for fantastic players that Port Power let go or didnt pick up when they had the chance!

Aw, I know Angus Monfries so cant put him on the list. How about Ben Cousins?

 

[MrBurns]

I don't follow the Saints at all, I was just arguing a point of principle, that if the point had been awarded as such the Saints would have been 5 points better off and had a kick out instead of a center bounce and that may have been enough to change the outcome.

Trying to compare that to other umpiring decisions is wrong , you see we KNOW that was a point, other decisions are arguable so are left to the discretion of the umpire.

 

[nomore4s]

And while we are at it, how about the most potential - lowest performer tag. I'll start with Mathew Richardson.

That's a bit harsh, there are plenty of guys that have underperformed alot more then Richo imo. The guy nearly won a Brownlow last year and he has also played in a team with some of the worst skills in the comp.

 

[>Apocalypto<]

That's a bit harsh, there are plenty of guys that have underperformed alot more then Richo imo. The guy nearly won a Brownlow last year and he has also played in a team with some of the worst skills in the comp.

plus all the injuries

 

[GumbyLearner]

The GF this year again proves that it's not the best team during the season but the best team in September that wins the flag.

Well said nomore4s.

The best team won. As a Saints fan I was upset at our failure to grasp opportunities.

We went into 3/4 time up by 7 points. The scoreboard did reflect that as 0.7 more points than Geelong. All credit to Geelong they took their chances, the Saints didn't.

Here's an interesting fact about the game on the weekend.

It was the first time in VFL/AFL history that a side had won the first three quarters of a Grand Final and lost the match.

I hope the Saints create another opportunity and take it next year.

 

[Duckman#72]

Here's an interesting fact about the game on the weekend.

It was the first time in VFL/AFL history that a side had won the first three quarters of a Grand Final and lost the match.

Hi Gumby

That's not correct I don't think.

Essendon did it to Hawhorn in 1984. It was considered one of the great Grand Finals and one of the best come from behind wins ever.

Essendon were 21 points down at qtr time, 25 points down at half time and 23 points down at three qtr time. They kicked 9 goals 6 behinds in the last qtr to win the game by 24 points.

Duckman

 

[Kez180]

Those misses dont translate immediately into an extra 5 points with the boost to pump them up as goals do and depress the other side somewhat.

6 points chief...

 

[YELNATS]

Hi Gumby

Essendon were 21 points down at qtr time, 25 points down at half time and 23 points down at three qtr time.
Duckman

Duckman, if that's the case Essendon "won" the 3rd quarter by 2 points, so Gumby may be right.

 

[MrBurns]

6 points chief...

5 points on top of the one they got......chief

 

[Timmy]

Why is this thread still going, wasn't it decided last Saturday?
We waiting on the Elliot Wavers to give their tip(s) or something? :

 

[trainspotter]

Umpire won the game for the Cats when a fee kick was awarded to G.Ablett Jnr directly in front of goal. Ablett had hold of Saint backmans arm and fell backwards. Umpire whistle said differently. Harumph.

Goal umpire declared a goal that hit the post. (as per discussion) Harumph

Chapman fired and Reiwoldt didn't. End of game.

 

[trainspotter]

Why is this thread still going, wasn't it decided last Saturday?
We waiting on the Elliot Wavers to give their tip(s) or something? :

Like all good legends or suburban myths, the deeds of the vindicated become more impressive and the vanquished turn into weaklings I guess.

 

[Duckman#72]

Duckman, if that's the case Essendon "won" the 3rd quarter by 2 points, so Gumby may be right.

Hi Yelnats

Yes I agree - it could certainly be right. Gumby hasn't reponded so I don't know what he meant.

Depends on what is meant by "won". I've obviously assumed it to mean "won" as in ...."had the lead or were in front."

Duckman

 

[GumbyLearner]

#bump#

I'm sure there will be those who think that this is quite speculative. But given the membership of this forum it is not entirely inappropriate. Saints by 6 goals this year for mine!