Saints vs. Cats: Who will win?

[ThingyMajiggy]

They did waste too many opportunities I agree, but giving them the goal wont make up for the mistake made by the goal umpire, for a start there would have been a kickout instead of a center bounce, we'll never know how that changed the game not to mention the psychological effect on the Saints.

How the hell can a ball hit the goalpost and it goes unnoticed.???

Everyone who was watching the game on TV saw it straight away.

Yeah I agree, was very obvious on TV, even the crowd behind the goals saw in, you could see them reacting in the replays they showed.

But I don't think it effected them psychologically, in bits they still definitely had the upper hand over the Cats, the Cats just held on because they actually kicked them between the two big ones and because of the missed goals from the Saints.

 

[MrBurns]

Yeah I agree, was very obvious on TV, even the crowd behind the goals saw in, you could see them reacting in the replays they showed.

But I don't think it effected them psychologically, in bits they still definitely had the upper hand over the Cats, the Cats just held on because they actually kicked them between the two big ones and because of the missed goals from the Saints.

Well I still think the outcome might have been different but we'll never know.

Saints should have won by several goals but couldnt kick straight anyway.

 

[GumbyLearner]

Next year !

there is always next year!

Well done fellas!

You will be hard to **** with and break down next year!

What a team!

A new legacy to look forward to.

 

[prawn_86]

Good game, good friends, good beer. Cant really ask for much more as a non supporter of either team

 

[mexican]

mmmmmmmmmmm how sweet it is!
What a great a game. Good old hard slog! 2 out the 3 aint bad!
When the game was up for grabs, the champs stood up. Not bad for a hand bagger midfield!
mmmmmmmmmmm how sweet it is!
THE MIGHTY CATS PREMIERS 2009

 

[Tink]

So give the Saints a free goal, Cats would still have won by 6 points. It was given straight back to them anyway with some of the stupid umpire decisions. Saints wasted way too many opportunities with misses.

I agree Sam

Was an excellent game - really enjoyed it : )

Pity with the rain on the day, still they got a great crowd, just under 100,000

Well done Geelong

 

[Purple XS2]

Saints were robbed ...

They wuz robbed? You wuz robbed? Mate, I wuz robbed. I had a few bob on a draw, and also on a half-time level score.
A minute before half-time, Saints soccer a goal (well done Justin Koschitzke) and scores are level, you beauty !! $1,000 bucks coming up!!
And then that evil goul Milburn abuses the goal umpire, (without any moral basis - Koschitzke's kick wasn't touched), and the umps give St. Kilda a second kick!! NOOOOOOOOOO
Milburn you nightmare, give me back my thousand bucks!!

that Cats' point that was counted as a goal changed the whole dynamic of the game, we all saw it on TV dunno why the goal umpire who was standing next to it didnt.

To be fair to the goal ump, Hawkin's kick grazed the inside of the post, and didn't change the spin of the ball through the air - from the goal ump's perspective, there was no clear sign of post contact. Had a field ump seen the deflection the call may have been overruled, but that didn't happen. One of those things.
And then that ogre Milburn restores the cosmic balance by screeching a goal to the Saints.
But still I say: I wuz robbed!!

 

[Prospector]

Saints weren't robbed Mr B, as others have said there was an 'evener-upper' almost straight away. The issue was, they simply didnt kick for goals well. They would have blitzed Geelong but they simply missed very easy shots.

 

[MrBurns]

Saints weren't robbed Mr B, as others have said there was an 'evener-upper' almost straight away. The issue was, they simply didnt kick for goals well. They would have blitzed Geelong but they simply missed very easy shots.

Geeez I'll say it just one more time, if the goal ump had taken notice of the 15,000 people behind the goals and given the correct decision there would have been a kickout not a center bounce.

Don't tell me that didnt have the potential to change the outcome of the game.

The Saints couldnt kick but they were right up there all the way.

Therefore an umps stupid mistake could have altered the outcome.

 

[Prospector]

Geeez I'll say it just one more time, if the goal ump had taken notice of the 15,000 people behind the goals and given the correct decision there would have been a kickout not a center bounce.

WT! You are saying that an umpire should be influenced by the cheer squad behind the goals? Seriously Mr B, I understand what you are saying but since when should an umpire listen to what a (biassed) crowd is saying! That would have been a very dangerous precedent for an umpire - "um, I am not sure what happened - I know, I will ask all the ladies and gents in 'red and black' for their advice!"

 

[MrBurns]

WT! You are saying that an umpire should be influenced by the cheer squad behind the goals? Seriously Mr B, I understand what you are saying but since when should an umpire listen to what a (biassed) crowd is saying! That would have been a very dangerous precedent for an umpire - "um, I am not sure what happened - I know, I will ask all the ladies and gents in 'red and black' for their advice!"

Not just the cheer squad, EVERYONE would have been screaming at him, all he had to do was ask anyone, check make sure .........but no.

 

[Prospector]

Not just the cheer squad, EVERYONE would have been screaming at him, all he had to do was ask anyone, check make sure .........but no.

Maybe he asked someone in blue and white?

Seriously Mr B, an umpire cannot ask anyone except another umpire what happened. You really know that deep down, don't you.....I think maybe you are just stirring us up and I fell for it.

 

[MrBurns]

Maybe he asked someone in blue and white?

Seriously Mr B, an umpire cannot ask anyone except another umpire what happened. You really know that deep down, don't you.....I think maybe you are just stirring us up and I fell for it.

Not at all, it's just that the goal umpire was the only one who didnt see it hit the post, remarkable.

With all those people telling him it touched, he should have had the sense to check.

 

[Prospector]

Not at all, it's just that the goal umpire was the only one who didnt see it hit the post, remarkable.

With all those people telling him it touched, he should have had the sense to check.

I am betting that the first rule umpires ever learn is to ignore the crowd.

 

[MrBurns]

I am betting that the first rule umpires ever learn is to ignore the crowd.

Probably.

I havent seen anything much about it in the media.

Ahhhh who cares

 

[Ardyne]

What about a field umpire not seeing a push in the back by a full forward in front of goal or some other missed decisions that result in goals. Umpires miss things all the time..its just part of the game..


WE ARE GEELONG...............THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL....

oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh yyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

 

[MrBurns]

What about a field umpire not seeing a push in the back by a full forward in front of goal or some other missed decisions that result in goals. Umpires miss things all the time..its just part of the game..


WE ARE GEELONG...............THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL....

oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh yyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

Those misses dont translate immediately into an extra 5 points with the boost to pump them up as goals do and depress the other side somewhat.

 

[>Apocalypto<]

CRIED MYSELF TO SLEEP LAST NIGHT.

SAINTS GAVE IT AWAY WITH ALL THE WASTED SHOTS ON GOAL!

THEN THE CATS TOOK IT OFF US IN THE LAST 15MIN.

CANT BLAME ANYONE BUT THE POOR KICKING AT GOAL OF ST KILDA

ANOTHER CHANCE GONE

:alcohol:

 

[>Apocalypto<]

WE ARE GEELONG...............THE GREATEST TEAM OF ALL....

oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh yyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

LUCKY MORE THEN GREAT i WOULD SAY

 

[MrBurns]

CRIED MYSELF TO SLEEP LAST NIGHT.

SAINTS GAVE IT AWAY WITH ALL THE WASTED SHOTS ON GOAL!

THEN THE CATS TOOK IT OFF US IN THE LAST 15MIN.

CANT BLAME ANYONE BUT THE POOR KICKING AT GOAL OF ST KILDA

ANOTHER CHANCE GONE

:alcohol:

They should have won by plenty thats the tragedy for them.

They have to live with the fact they beat themselves.