More Religious Nuts

[Timmy]

I have read and reread your post Boggo, I wonder if you read mine, the one you quoted?

I have tried to correlate the reduction in violence in NI with the increased economic opportunity there over the past decade. That's all, and, imho (no claims on being an expert, and no claims on knowing FA about the place either).

There has been reduced violence in recent years and now it appears to be increasing. This is not because the 350 of years of history were forgotten and suddenly have been remembered again.

You say I "can't expect the Irish to just forget ...etc" I didn't?

 

[Boggo]

I have read and reread your post Boggo, I wonder if you read mine, the one you quoted?

I have tried to correlate the reduction in violence in NI with the increased economic opportunity there over the past decade. That's all, and, imho (no claims on being an expert, and no claims on knowing FA about the place either).

There has been reduced violence in recent years and now it appears to be increasing. This is not because the 350 of years of history were forgotten and suddenly have been remembered again.

You say I "can't expect the Irish to just forget ...etc" I didn't?

I wasn't actually directing it a you or anyone in particular Timmy, just used your post as a link to the subject as it was the last one.
My comments are generic based on many of the previous comments where the quirks and anomalies of religion somehow seem to be incorrectly and simplistically associated with problems associated with the last bastion of invasion chest thumping that exists in the civilised world.

 

[Timmy]

I wasn't actually directing it a you or anyone in particular Timmy, just used your post as a link to the subject as it was the last one.
My comments are generic based on many of the previous comments where the quirks and anomalies of religion somehow seem to be incorrectly and simplistically associated with problems associated with the last bastion of invasion chest thumping that exists in the civilised world.

Thanks Boggo - had me scratching my head a bit.

 

[darkside]

Getting back on track:

Boy starved for not saying Amen

"TWO women members of a fanatical religious cult are accused of starving a toddler to death after the boy refused to say "Amen" after meals.

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Antoinette told her followers to pray for the boy's resurrection after he died, police said.

She ultimately placed his body inside a suitcase that the cult members hid behind a house in Philadelphia for more than a year before it was found by investigators, police said."

See, that is disgracefull, and once again comes back to using religion to justify harm, torture and eventual death , now i'm no rocket scientist but i believe that no amount of prayer from the" fanatical wackjob" Antoinette will bring the child back !!!!!!

 

[bunyip]

What better example of religious nuts than the scum who targeted non-Muslims by bombing the Indonesian hotels today.
These clowns invariably kill fellow Muslims as well, but that never seems to bother them.
The Muslim religion is a disgrace.....what sort of religion has 'Kill the infidels' (non-believers) as part of its code of ethics!

Muslims can talk all they like about their 'religion of peace', and how the actions of a few radicals are not representative of the religion as a whole. But they can't escape the fact that their religion encourages and promotes the killing of innocent people.

 

[Bobby]

What better example of religious nuts than the scum who targeted non-Muslims by bombing the Indonesian hotels today.
These clowns invariably kill fellow Muslims as well, but that never seems to bother them.
The Muslim religion is a disgrace.....what sort of religion has 'Kill the infidels' (non-believers) as part of its code of ethics!

Muslims can talk all they like about their 'religion of peace', and how the actions of a few radicals are not representative of the religion as a whole. But they can't escape the fact that their religion encourages and promotes the killing of innocent people.

Well said ! , yes religious nuts are pure evil , see who pops up to argue this ?

 

[darkside]

Well said ! , yes religious nuts are pure evil , see who pops up to argue this ?

Well obviously people who believe the means justifies the end ,and that torture and death in the name of religion, regardless of which deity you subscibe to is ok . !!!! Thats your answer!

 

[ktrianta]

Pure evil now that is an interesting term. If we are nothing more than rearranged pond scum, then on what basis can we say that anything is evil or good? It seems to me that you are borrowing religious terminolgy to make your point.

Fundamentalist athiests or religious extremists they are all the same due to their intolerance.

 

[darkside]

Pure evil now that is an interesting term. If we are nothing more than rearranged pond scum, then on what basis can we say that anything is evil or good? It seems to me that you are borrowing religious terminolgy to make your point.

Fundamentalist athiests or religious extremists they are all the same due to their intolerance.

No, we are not borrowing religious terminology to make "any point", every post in this thread makes reference to religion being used to justify torture and cruelty, the only debate in the matter is whether or not it's right, not are athiests or believers more or less evil than each other.!

 

[Bobby]

Well obviously people who believe the means justifies the end ,and that torture and death in the name of religion, regardless of which deity you subscibe to is ok . !!!! Thats your answer!

You know whats really scary Darkside, its the huge numbers of those brain dead puppets who roam this planet !

 

[ktrianta]

the only debate in the matter is whether or not it's right,!

Sorry Darkside, but you are just using a different word know and borrowing from religious terminology again. Albeit your term this time is a little less inflammatory.

Right (or wrong) is a moral term and morality without refence to absolutes is meaningless.

So if we are nothing more than rearranged pond scum how can you say what is right or wrong?

 

[Bobby]

Fundamentalist athiests or religious extremists they are all the same due to their intolerance.

No , what fundamentalist atheist extremist group bomb innocents ?

As for pond life those creatures are lucky enough to not have found religion yet

 

[darkside]

Sorry Darkside, but you are just using a different word know and borrowing from religious terminology again. Albeit your term this time is a little less inflammatory.

Right (or wrong) is a moral term and morality without refence to absolutes is meaningless.

So if we are nothing more than rearranged pond scum how can you say what is right or wrong?

While you are busy arguing semantics, the rest of us are here to discuss our opinions, which are obviously based on our own points of reference.
Now, the question is do you believe that killing people in the name of religion is right or wrong? If right, why? If wrong, why? But don't tie up the board with all this other crap!

 

[darkside]

No , what fundamentalist atheist extremist group bomb innocents ?

As for pond life those creatures are lucky enough to not have found religion yet

Bobby, so true!

 

[bunyip]

Sorry Darkside, but you are just using a different word know and borrowing from religious terminology again. Albeit your term this time is a little less inflammatory.

Right (or wrong) is a moral term and morality without refence to absolutes is meaningless.

So if we are nothing more than rearranged pond scum how can you say what is right or wrong?

Enough prattle about 'religious terminology' and 'reference to absolutes' and 'rearranged pond scum' and all the other crap you're going on with.

Do you believe it's OK to kill innocent people in the name of religion?
Yes or no?

 

[Bobby]

Enough prattle about 'religious terminology' and 'reference to absolutes' and 'rearranged pond scum' and all the other crap you're going on with.

Do you believe it's OK to kill innocent people in the name of religion?
Yes or no?

Good luck Bunyip if we get a reply , notice all the god lovers are absent to-night , maybe the all powerful god found todays bombing entertaining

 

[weird]

Good luck Bunyip if we get a reply , notice all the god lovers are absent to-night , maybe the all powerful god found todays bombing entertaining

Stupid comment ... no offense Bobby.

Believe yesterday there were some pictures of dog which had it's ears cut off.

There are sick people, and some have enough charisma for other sick people to follow them ... we feel safe by calling them a 'nut'.

Lived in Muslim countries and with Muslim families, while the countries usually aren't as developed as ours, they do as a normal representation, have similar beliefs as most people in our society, that is, killing is wrong, and planning a Jihad, has less priority over welcoming guests of any religion.

As I mentioned above, the nut that cut off the ears of the dog is a nut. He or she, could be a member of the bowls club, library, even a donater to the cancer foundation, I don't believe cutting off the ears of dog is part of any of their clubs or organizations.

 

[Bobby]

Stupid comment ... no offense Bobby.





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No offence taken weird , inconsequential reply.

 

[trainspotter]

As I mentioned above, the nut that cut off the ears of the dog is a nut. He or she, could be a member of the bowls club, library, even a donater to the cancer foundation, I don't believe cutting off the ears of dog is part of any of their clubs or organizations.

Except for that weird nut club that cuts the ears of dogs.

Like this freak: A BRISBANE man could face jail if found guilty of cutting the ears off an eight-week-old puppy with a pair of scissors, the RSPCA said today. Inspectors from the animal welfare group seized the American staffordshire terrier south of Brisbane at the weekend after a tip-off about a cruelly mutilated animal.

The ears had been cut off to make the puppy “look tough”, a practice that is carried out in illegal dog fighting circles, RSPCA inspector Daniel Young said today. “It's an eight-week old American staffy male pup,” Mr Young said. “We received information about a dog having its ears chopped off. “We attended the address and located the pup, obviously with no ears, and we've spoken to a person of interest who later admitted to chopping its ears off with scissors.”

The dog had received no sedation or pain relief following its ordeal.

Mr Young said he was appalled someone would inflict such pain on an animal, particularly one so young. “I have seen dogs with their ears chopped off in the past, but I've never seen an eight-week pup with its ears cut off.”

The pup has now been temporarily fostered with a Brisbane family.

It was starting to recover and had suffered no damage to its hearing, but would be scarred for life. Mr Young said a man in his early 20s was under investigation.

Police said any charges would be laid by RSPCA inspectors under the Animal Care and Protection Act, which carries a maximum $75,000 fine and two years in prison.

The RSPCA was hoping any penalty imposed would act as a deterrent to others. “Magistrates are starting to realise that issues like this are not tolerated by the public and are starting to give heftier fines,” Mr Young said.

The RSPCA hoped the dog would soon find a caring, permanent home.

 

[Sunder]

Enough prattle about 'religious terminology' and 'reference to absolutes' and 'rearranged pond scum' and all the other crap you're going on with.

Do you believe it's OK to kill innocent people in the name of religion?
Yes or no?

I think we've already established sufficiently that anyone can be a nut, and kill and torture in the name of anything or nothing.