The Health and Fitness Thread

[helicart]

Yes folks, daytrading is not stressful. Particularly at the end of the day when you know that your capital will still be there for tomorrow.

....though entries and exits still get my BP up I reckon. I'll have to measure it one day.

 

[bowman]

I have no problems with pulling the trigger.

Perhaps my times of greatest stress are when I watch a position I have just sold, rally to new and astonishing intraday heights.

 

[gav]

Check this out...

http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/

 

[helicart]

Check this out...

http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/

it's amazing anyone makes it past 30 on that sort of food.
though how did the sushi get in there.

Some of you might appreciate some slides in this ppt I did for state govt a few years ago. 10MB zip....make sure to unzip both files to same folder and run in full screen mode to get the audio working.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

What is wrong with being a bit fat and dying early and happy.

All you protein hormone glugging veinful early morning abberations will only fill our nursing homes with cranky old bastards who will take forever to die.

I prefer my shape and attitude, I take my roots seriously and do not need to be all that fit or hormone filled to achieve same.

gg

 

[helicart]

What is wrong with being a bit fat and dying early and happy.

gg

gg, so you are the resident sht stirrer

I don't give a stuff what you eat or feed to your sprogs, as long as I don't have to pick up part of the morbidity medical bill...which is the problem with nationalized health isn't it.

Once the govt gets control of services, they then want to dictate how we live our lives so the cost of the service can be controlled.

They'll introduce bans on television advertising of treat foods within 5 years, you watch. and regulations on what fast food chains can sell.

 

[Julia]

Once the govt gets control of services, they then want to dictate how we live our lives so the cost of the service can be controlled.

They'll introduce bans on television advertising of treat foods within 5 years, you watch. and regulations on what fast food chains can sell.

Yes. Maybe post a copy of this on the "Bloody Nanny State" thread.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

gg, so you are the resident sht stirrer

I don't give a stuff what you eat or feed to your sprogs, as long as I don't have to pick up part of the morbidity medical bill...which is the problem with nationalized health isn't it.

Once the govt gets control of services, they then want to dictate how we live our lives so the cost of the service can be controlled.

They'll introduce bans on television advertising of treat foods within 5 years, you watch. and regulations on what fast food chains can sell.

Helicart you live in a very narrow world, excuse the pun.

Life is more than just about body mass index, and cultures over the millenia have had different ideals of body habitus.

I take it you own a fat factory or some such harbour for the anxious and unfit, veinous and desperate.

May I quote from Shakespeare on Julius Caesar's ideal of comrades to surround him.

"Let me have men about me that are fat, sleek-headed men, and such as sleep o' nights".

By all means make a quid out of the anxious amongst us, but, putting a fey philosophical spin upon it is sophistry.

gg

 

[helicart]

Like the Bible, Shakespeare has something for all seasons.....having understood man's dichotomous nature.

As for the fat farm, nope.....just enough years in hospitals and private practice to witness the sorrow of men before their time not able to fetch their mail from the letterbox, sit for 7 hours at a computer, or drive safely....for want of lungs, knees, lumbar discs, and pancreas spent before their time....

And then this weekend past, two 16 yo rugby players, one with suspected unhappy triad knee trauma, the other with subluxed cervical facet jt and concussion....courtesy of carrying excess weight and not being conditioned enough to evade tackle and fall well..........

Truth is, they'd probably prefer to be at home on the X Box....but presume Dad is living his unfulfilled dreams through the kids potential glory.....but glory is not something outsourced and got for nothing....

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Like the Bible, Shakespeare has something for all seasons.....having understood man's dichotomous nature.

As for the fat farm, nope.....just enough years in hospitals and private practice to witness the sorrow of men before their time not able to fetch their mail from the letterbox, sit for 7 hours at a computer, or drive safely....for want of lungs, knees, lumbar discs, and pancreas spent before their time....

And then this weekend past, two 16 yo rugby players, one with suspected unhappy triad knee trauma, the other with subluxed cervical facet jt and concussion....courtesy of carrying excess weight and not being conditioned enough to evade tackle and fall well..........

Truth is, they'd probably prefer to be at home on the X Box....but presume Dad is living his unfulfilled dreams through the kids potential glory.....but glory is not something outsourced and got for nothing....

Ok mate, you are a GP. I drive trucks. We both have our own opinions.

I know more old drunks than old doctors.

Your job is to keep the cost of health expenditure to 8% of gdp, no more no less.

We make gdp.

gg

 

[helicart]

Ok mate, you are a GP. I drive trucks. We both have our own opinions.

I know more old drunks than old doctors.

Your job is to keep the cost of health expenditure to 8% of gdp, no more no less.

We make gdp.

gg

not that I am nit picking gg, cos you seem like a reasonable bloke, but gdp is consumption of all goods and services........which is why it is a crap indicator in many ways.....if there's more truck accidents, and need for medical treatment and panel beating, GDP goes up.

though my specialty is headaches and neck trauma.....which cause a lot of lost productivity....getting computer programmers, builders, plumbers, truckies, barristers, judges, etc back to work a couple of days earlier is my net contribution to GDP.

 

[bowman]

Well I tracked down some Essene sprouted grain bread yesterday in the refrigerator
section of a health food store.

It's quite a departure from what otherwise passes for bread. This stuff is DENSE!
It's much smaller than a normal loaf (14cm x 8.5cm x 8.5cm) but it weighs 1kg.

There were several grain options available but I decided to start with the
wheat grain.

If you're looking for a healthier sandwich bread then I doubt this is for you.
This bread is very moist, and seriously dense and heavy. One toasted slice this
morning, with a little honey was all I needed to feel quite full, so I'm
going to include a slice of this bread in my morning eating routine.


The flavour is BIG and the taste of wheat really comes through with some
nutiness and sweetness as well.

The nutritional claims for sprouted grain breads include:

High fibre
High protein
High vitamins and minerals
Complex carbohydrates
Essential amino acids
LOw Gi
Low calories
Virtually fat and salt free

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprouted_bread


http://www.naturaltherapypages.com.au/article/Benefits_Sprouted_Grains

PS. Sometimes I find health food stores, and some of the people that work there a bit scary. The middle aged woman that served me yesterday looked borderline anorexic.

 

[helicart]

PS. Sometimes I find health food stores, and some of the people that work there a bit scary. The middle aged woman that served me yesterday looked borderline anorexic.

yes that's a common criticism of health food nuts and vegetarians......but keep in mind many people who feel unwell or have had chronic illness, take an interest in healthier eating.......it isn't necessarily their interest in healthier eating that makes them look sick.

nevertheless, anorexia and body image issues are a serious problem for many women. Personally I reckon a lot of them wouldn't get that way if they had some bloody responsibility to do a bit of manual work every week. Behind every anorexic is someone supporting them in a fairly sedentary and indulged lifestyle, imho.

 

[bowman]

Behind every anorexic is someone supporting them in a fairly sedentary and indulged lifestyle, imho.

In my personal experience I would unfortunately have to agree. A friends wife fit that bill perfectly, until she passed away from her disease a couple of years ago.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

not that I am nit picking gg, cos you seem like a reasonable bloke, but gdp is consumption of all goods and services........which is why it is a crap indicator in many ways.....if there's more truck accidents, and need for medical treatment and panel beating, GDP goes up.

though my specialty is headaches and neck trauma.....which cause a lot of lost productivity....getting computer programmers, builders, plumbers, truckies, barristers, judges, etc back to work a couple of days earlier is my net contribution to GDP.

Well I tracked down some Essene sprouted grain bread yesterday in the refrigerator
section of a health food store.

It's quite a departure from what otherwise passes for bread. This stuff is DENSE!
It's much smaller than a normal loaf (14cm x 8.5cm x 8.5cm) but it weighs 1kg.

There were several grain options available but I decided to start with the
wheat grain.

If you're looking for a healthier sandwich bread then I doubt this is for you.
This bread is very moist, and seriously dense and heavy. One toasted slice this
morning, with a little honey was all I needed to feel quite full, so I'm
going to include a slice of this bread in my morning eating routine.


The flavour is BIG and the taste of wheat really comes through with some
nutiness and sweetness as well.

The nutritional claims for sprouted grain breads include:

High fibre
High protein
High vitamins and minerals
Complex carbohydrates
Essential amino acids
LOw Gi
Low calories
Virtually fat and salt free

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprouted_bread


http://www.naturaltherapypages.com.au/article/Benefits_Sprouted_Grains

PS. Sometimes I find health food stores, and some of the people that work there a bit scary. The middle aged woman that served me yesterday looked borderline anorexic.

thanks for the advice guys, all good if you are obsessive , but most of us are not.

What doctors need to realise is that they are a service industry, just like a coffee shop, trades assistant or a lawn mowing business.

The people who determine our wealth are farmers, miners and inustrialists.

Actors, entaertainment provide tittilation and occasionally a big win like Hoges.

Doctors preach at people and are in the hold of either the Guvment or bigPharma to dope people out to make a profit, pure and simple, or to deny them essential services by building a huge bureaucracy in the case of Guvment.

All this wheat crap, is just that, crap.

I eat usually good food , pasta, steak, eyetie, chinese and salami.

I could not give a stuff whether I die today or in forty years time.

The problem is with all these obsessive old farts who want to live forever.

We are keeping all these people alive and will pay for it in 20 years time with huge asylums full of demented old yorks with current gym and health food shop memberships.

gg

 

[bowman]

thanks for the advice guys, all good if you are obsessive , but most of us are not.

What doctors need to realise is that they are a service industry, just like a coffee shop, trades assistant or a lawn mowing business.

The people who determine our wealth are farmers, miners and inustrialists.

Actors, entaertainment provide tittilation and occasionally a big win like Hoges.

Doctors preach at people and are in the hold of either the Guvment or bigPharma to dope people out to make a profit, pure and simple, or to deny them essential services by building a huge bureaucracy in the case of Guvment.

All this wheat crap, is just that, crap.

I eat usually good food , pasta, steak, eyetie, chinese and salami.

I could not give a stuff whether I die today or in forty years time.

The problem is with all these obsessive old farts who want to live forever.

We are keeping all these people alive and will pay for it in 20 years time with huge asylums full of demented old yorks with current gym and health food shop memberships.

gg

Is that your B-double parked in this forum?

Move along please sir - it's blocking the traffic.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Is that your B-double parked in this forum?

Move along please sir - it's blocking the traffic.

thanks mate,

All these veinful gym adddicts and wheaten wizards miss out so much on the good things in life.

This is not my rig, but ain't it beautiful.

The driver of this can be assured of a good food and bedding and possibly what the Ruddmeister missed out at Scores in any Western town.

Bugger health and fitness.

Its what you do with it that counts.

 

[gav]

thanks for the advice guys, all good if you are obsessive , but most of us are not.

To quote Arnold:

"Obsessed is a word lazy people use to describe someone who is dedicated."

Obesity puts a FAR greater strain on our health system and tax payers than fit/healthy people ever will.

The topic of obesity is very close to my heart. My best friend was obese. He died in his sleep. The autopsy revealed his arteries were clogged and he died of a heart attack. He was just 23 years old.

It is so sad that his life was cut so short. He'll never get to travel like he dreamed to. He was a kind, caring, sweet guy who will be remembered for helping those less fortunate than himself. It's a shame he didn't help himself...

 

[motorway]

yes that's a common criticism of health food nuts and vegetarians......but keep in mind many people who feel unwell or have had chronic illness, take an interest in healthier eating.......it isn't necessarily their interest in healthier eating that makes them look sick.

nevertheless, anorexia and body image issues are a serious problem for many women. Personally I reckon a lot of them wouldn't get that way if they had some bloody responsibility to do a bit of manual work every week. Behind every anorexic is someone supporting them in a fairly sedentary and indulged lifestyle, imho.

Where do you get long chain Omega 3
with a vegan diet ?

Where does the Pritikin/Ornish diet provide them ?

If you say from a capsule

Well you are not starting with a wholesome natural human diet
But a deficient one..

Taurine
Vitamin A ( not same as beta carotene )
Zinc
B 12

etc

All these things esp long chain omega 3
should be provided by diet
ALA is not same
and liver has limited ability to convert

important eg macular degeneration epidemic
melanoma epidemic
etc


motorway

 

[helicart]

Why I prefer truckies wide awake and healthy.

yes that's a car between the truck and wall.