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What makes somebody "attractive"?

Symmetry is what makes a person 'physically' attactive.


reminds me of the office episode about hilary swank


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If I have to do everything on Temjin's list to attract a woman I would like something in return. Here is the good wife's guide from 1955. This should put us about equal.

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If I have to do everything on Temjin's list to attract a woman I would like something in return. Here is the good wife's guide from 1955. This should put us about equal.

:D

Always love seeing that article. How things have changed. Now I just need to get working on this point with the girlfriend - "remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours" and get her interested in stocks/investing :).
 
Always love seeing that article. How things have changed. Now I just need to get working on this point with the girlfriend - "remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours" and get her interested in stocks/investing :).

Hahaha great article too, a shocking differences from modern worlds. Though it may still be regarded as normal in some part of the world. Certain places in China for example.

Personally, I think being "confident" is the way to go. It kills three birds with one stone where as firstly, you are naturally attractive to all women around you, secondly, it ampifies some of the other traits on the same list and thirdly, you build up a healthy mindset (as long as you aren't OVER confidence) that could potentially make your life much "happier".

I have to say it's been working wonder to me so far. :) Though I have "tuned" down expressing those traits TO OTHER GIRLS since I am in a really good relationship with my current gf.
 
Being 'confident' also means being at peace with yourself. Being happy. Nothing more attractive to me than a happy person. They generally exude a type of aura that is hard to define, but aura will do. I'm attracted to aura! :)
 
Haha, well I thought it was interesting - even though I don't agree with it.

Make sure you get Smithers to read it to you daily... :p:

Yeah, I'm interested to know what you don't agree with.

kennas said:
Being 'confident' also means being at peace with yourself. Being happy. Nothing more attractive to me than a happy person. They generally exude a type of aura that is hard to define, but aura will do. I'm attracted to aura! :)

Okay, I should go and get my aura photograph taken and make a t-shirt out of it. hahah :) And yes, it's definitely hard to describe why confident is attractive.
 
Benjamin Franklin's advice to a young friend;

But if you will not take this Counsel, and persist in thinking a Commerce with the Sex inevitable, then I repeat my former Advice, that in all your Amours you should prefer old Women to young ones. You call this a Paradox, and demand my Reasons. They are these:

1. Because as they have more Knowledge of the World and their Minds are better stor'd with Observations, their Conversation is more improving and more lastingly agreable.

2. Because when Women cease to be handsome, the study to be good. To maintain their Influence over Men, they supply the Dimunition of Beauty by the Augmentation of Utility. They learn to do 1000 Services small and great, and are the most tender and useful of all Friends when you are sick. Thus they continue amiable. And hence there is hardly such thing to be found as an old Woman who is not a good Woman.

3. Because there is no hazard of Children, which irregularly produc'd may be attended with much Inconvenience.

4. Because thro' more Experience, they are more prudent and discreet in conducting and Intrigue to prevent Suspicion. The Commerce with them is therefore safer with regard to your Reputation. And with regard to theirs, if the Affair should happen to be known, considerate People might be rather inclin'd to excuse an old Woman who would kindly take care of a young Man, form his Manners by her good Counsels, and prevent his ruining his Health and Fortune among mercenary Prostitutes.

5. Because in every animal that walks upright, the Deficiency of the Fluids that fill the Muscles appears first in the highest Part: the Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an Old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement.

6. Because the Sin is less. The debauching of a Virgin may be her Ruin, and make her for Life unhappy.

7. Because the Compunction is less. The having made a young Girl miserable may give you frequent bitter Reflections; none of which can attend the making an old Woman happy.

8. They are so grateful!!
 
Can you believe it?



This guy wins $181 million in the lottery on a Wednesday,

and then finds the love of his life just 2 days later.





Talk about LUCK!!!!
 

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Whats not to agree with ?

It seems to have everything that I've always thought but never actally thought deeply about, that list seems to detail it all.

Smithers is off to some mardi gras or something, having a gay old time no doubt.

OK I don't believe a few of the things on that list.

You dont need to be"educated" to attract women. What difference does it make if you only finished year 10, or have 3 PHD's? I don't see how it makes you any more or less attractive.

You don't need to be "classy and cultured", or understand interior design, colour contrast, like Frank Sinatra, watch foreign films or be into fashion. In fact I think its the opposite. Men with those traits tend to attract women as "just friends", rather than anything else.

There is a big difference between being into fashion, and knowing how to dress. Simply wear decent clothes when you go out, and be well groomed. You dont need to follow fashion at all. Following fashion/keeping up with trends is actually quite pathetic.

As for the confidence/cocky part, that is defiinitely true. However you can still go way overboard and women seem to like it (I can only speak from my own experience). After a break about 4yrs ago, I went through a period of a few months where I just went out with my mates and treated girls like crap. I'd be arrogant and rude to them, and I had more female attention in those few months than I had had in my entire life.

I also think that females are just as shallow (if you'd call it that) when it comes to looks as men are. How you physically look is very important. Obviously there will be some women and some men who don't care as much, but the majority do (even if they won't admit it).
 
OK I don't believe a few of the things on that list.

You dont need to be"educated" to attract women. What difference does it make if you only finished year 10, or have 3 PHD's? I don't see how it makes you any more or less attractive.

You don't need to be "classy and cultured", or understand interior design, colour contrast, like Frank Sinatra, watch foreign films or be into fashion. In fact I think its the opposite. Men with those traits tend to attract women as "just friends", rather than anything else.

There is a big difference between being into fashion, and knowing how to dress. Simply wear decent clothes when you go out, and be well groomed. You dont need to follow fashion at all. Following fashion/keeping up with trends is actually quite pathetic.

As for the confidence/cocky part, that is defiinitely true. However you can still go way overboard and women seem to like it (I can only speak from my own experience). After a break about 4yrs ago, I went through a period of a few months where I just went out with my mates and treated girls like crap. I'd be arrogant and rude to them, and I had more female attention in those few months than I had had in my entire life.

I also think that females are just as shallow (if you'd call it that) when it comes to looks as men are. How you physically look is very important. Obviously there will be some women and some men who don't care as much, but the majority do (even if they won't admit it).

Yeah I'd go along with that, I didnt really look that closely at the detail, the main thrust is pretty much spot on though.
 
OK I don't believe a few of the things on that list.

I guess I didn't emphasis on a particular point David DeAngelo made when he created that list. (or the materials he teach)

He said that the list of traits have elements of "attractiveness" universal to all womens regardless of backgrounds and cultures. However, it does not necessary mean any one of them would work at all to a particular woman. Certain combinations may be better than others, and some may even not work at all. So he acknowledges that everyone is unique and are attracted to different things.

Thus, there is no "fixed" formulas on which list of the traits you need to possess in order to better "attract" a women. The more you have, the better chance you have from the "pack" of man. You would only focus on what has worked for you so far and leverage on the strength.

If being confident and cocky works in attracting women for you, then continue to be so.
 
If I have to do everything on Temjin's list to attract a woman I would like something in return. Here is the good wife's guide from 1955. This should put us about equal.

:D

Here's the more realistic version -
 

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1. What makes a person "attractive"?
As everybody knows, it differs from person to person. Whether we like it or not, for most people looks are at least mildly important.

2. Can you be more attracted to a person simply because they have more wealth/power or are of celebrity status?
Definitely! I used to work with a girl who recently got married to a guy who you wouldn't call classically handsome. If he wasn't the most attractive guy out there, then what qualities did he possess that allowed him to net her?

He is very successful (near the top of the food chain) in his chosen career, earns quite a lot of money and is a great communicator. Since an early age she had set a certain criteria, those being:

- That he would be the sole provider of income while she was a housewife and would not return to work
- That he would hold a position of power
- That he wanted a large family
- She would be the more attractive member in the relationship

In this case, she got what she wanted in a successful partner who would allow her to never work another day in her life, allowing her to be a 'nester' and have a large family. Also, being the more attractive one, that made her feel validated and secure within herself.

3. Who are we to judge what someone finds attractive?
I don't really concern myself about what others find attractive, definitely not verbally anyway. You might say that what I have said above contradicts this, what I have said above is just an observation. I am happy that they have both found their ideal partner.

4. Is there a list of criteria you must meet to marry someone?
Upright and breathing, sometimes that is a stretch. As we see in the news, almost anything goes.

5. What are YOU attracted to?
Obviously I wouldn't be attracted to somebody with a face like a dropped pie, but they don't have to be Jessica Alba to be attractive to me. Some women I find attractive for different reasons.

They have a great personality. Some people are just fun to be around, you connect with, can relate to and feel comfortable with. A sense of humor is certainly a positive.

They take an interest in their health and wellbeing. They don't have to be a fitness or health freak, but should realise the importance of looking after their body and health.

They don't feel the need to always go out drinking and clubbing or whatever just to be seen or please their friends. There are other activities like going out to dinner/movies, fun/outdoor activities or just spending time together at home.

There are different kinds of 'smart'. Some people are 'book smart', being that they are scholarly and do well at school/uni. While others are 'real-world smart' and can see the world for what it is and know how to use it to their advantage.
 
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