Islam, a philosophy in decline??

[Garpal Gumnut]

An interesting article on the dilemma faced by many Islamists living in a postmodern world.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/africa/7536985.stm

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

Like it, moderate Islam’s single-minded pursuit has never been about blending.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/less-violent-islamists-are-still-islamists/

I think it is time policy makers got educated.

 

[Sean K]

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/less-violent-islamists-are-still-islamists/

I think it is time policy makers got educated.

Good article Snake.

Moderate Muslims here can enhance the process not by demanding free passes on polygamy, oppression of women, radical religiosity, and restrictions of personal freedoms, but by absorbing the values of where they landed.

Take note south west Sydney.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

An interesting article on the dilemma faced by many Islamists living in a postmodern world.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/africa/7536985.stm

An interesting blog on what the author calls lies.
http://www.kactuzkid.com/lies.html

Kennas,

I have some experience of dealing with the people who hate western values. I was totally discriminated against.

cheers.

 

[IFocus]

Thanks for the links Snake

The Crusade history was some thing I hadn't considered in the context presented, funny as I knew the history pre- Crusade's reasonably well but formed my bias on the slaughter of the 1st crusade.

Have had a number of extended discussions with migrants who follow Islam and wondered how they would ever integrate to accept our values as their own.

The blog you linked has been my own experience

 

[Lantern]

Pat Condell on appeasing Islam.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=y9dXGJ2rYdA

 

[2020hindsight]

Well they say Islam is on the increase in PNG (today's news) . Apparently fastest in the highlands !?? Which as they say, is bludy strange, considering the only meat they can grow in the villages is pigmeat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Papua_New_Guinea

Muslims growing rapidly
New missionary movements are beginning to proliferate, most significantly Islam, the probable reason for the harsh reactions. There are pockets of Muslims around Port Moresby, in Baimuru, Daru, Marchall Lagoon, the Musa Valley and in the islands of New Britain and New Ireland. It is in the highlands that Islam has seen the most growth.[6]

 

[Largesse]

A readers comment from the first BBC article:

"How sensitively we treat the racism and discrimination of the west at the hands of Islam. While this is a matter for this young man's conscience we shouldn’t be too sympathetic to his parochial ways. Would a story about a young man in London refusing to work for or with Muslims be treated with such an understanding tone? "

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

A readers comment from the first BBC article:

"How sensitively we treat the racism and discrimination of the west at the hands of Islam. While this is a matter for this young man's conscience we shouldn’t be too sympathetic to his parochial ways. Would a story about a young man in London refusing to work for or with Muslims be treated with such an understanding tone? "

No he would be called a racist for CHOICE by the cowards of the leftie multicultural experiment.

Thanks for posting the above video.

 

[chops_a_must]

No he would be called a racist for CHOICE by the cowards of the leftie multicultural experiment.

Thanks for posting the above video.

Lol.

Don't you live in Japan? Are you Japanese born and raised?

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

Lol.

Don't you live in Japan? Are you Japanese born and raised?

I'm an Aussie living abroad for a while. Problem with that?

 

[chops_a_must]

I'm an Aussie living abroad for a while. Problem with that?

Nope.

It's just hilarious you can't see the irony.

 

[Bobby]

Hello Snake ,

I'm back to say my stuff again '
Hope alls well with you in Jap land ?

Bob himself !!

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

Nope.

It's just hilarious you can't see the irony.

Opinion, free speech and choice. You revel in it and so do many others.

I am amazed at your superior abilities. Wow, on fire babe.

Bob,
I hope all is well.
Take care.

 

[Bobby]

Bob,
I hope all is well.
Take care.

Thank you Snake,
Many adventures to tell .

Bob.

 

[Sunder]

A readers comment from the first BBC article:

"How sensitively we treat the racism and discrimination of the west at the hands of Islam. While this is a matter for this young man's conscience we shouldn’t be too sympathetic to his parochial ways. Would a story about a young man in London refusing to work for or with Muslims be treated with such an understanding tone? "

Interesting you should mention that, I read in Voice of the Matyrs (Yes, a Christian magazine), that more Christians are put to death every year in Fundamentalist Muslim countries, than Muslims have died in the current Iraq war to date, yet Muslims claim that the Christian West is oppressing Islam?

That article someone posted about Islam using selective truths has a huge ring of truth to it.

At the end of the day, we need to treat people on their merits, not on their supposed culture and supposed beliefs. I'm genetically Asian, but any assumption on my culture is more likely than not to be wrong. I'm also Christian, but if anyone associated me with abortion clinic bombing mad men, or homosexual hating campaigners they'd be wrong too.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

Interesting you should mention that, I read in Voice of the Matyrs (Yes, a Christian magazine), that more Christians are put to death every year in Fundamentalist Muslim countries, than Muslims have died in the current Iraq war to date, yet Muslims claim that the Christian West is oppressing Islam?

That article someone posted about Islam using selective truths has a huge ring of truth to it.

At the end of the day, we need to treat people on their merits, not on their supposed culture and supposed beliefs. I'm genetically Asian, but any assumption on my culture is more likely than not to be wrong. I'm also Christian, but if anyone associated me with abortion clinic bombing mad men, or homosexual hating campaigners they'd be wrong too.

Exactly, Christians are under attack from all walks of life. Just look at Britain to see what the people in power - especially schools - are doing.

Unfortunately when a religious doctrine doesn't allow the thinking of merits as opposed to intolerance there will be many more incidents and problems ahead for christians, jews and atheists.

 

[Julia]

Hello Snake ,

I'm back to say my stuff again '
Hope alls well with you in Jap land ?

Bob himself !!

Well, Bobby, you've been absent for so long I doubted you'd be back.
What have you been doing?

Cheers
Julia

 

[2020hindsight]

Maybe the reason that PNG is going Islam has to do with polygamy

PS Maybe Christianity will have to "get with the times"

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2422121.htm

STEVE MARSHALL: Papua New Guineans began converting to Islam in the early 1980s. There are now more than 4,000 followers with recent reports of entire villages converting at the same time. Many are drawn to Islam because of the similarities the religion has with Melanesian customs, says Isa Teine, the General Secretary for PNG's Islamic Society.

ISA TEINE: We eat, we dance. This is Islam. When we greet people we hug them. This is Islam. We don't shake hands and leave them. So most of our cultures are Islamic. Polygamy. This is Islam. Islam encourages four wives. Before Islam came in, people already had two, three, four wives. This is Islam. So when the religion came in and said, oh we have to do this, this, our Islamic culture, we have to do this and that, oh people fit in easily.

So it's very easy for Papua New Guineans to embrace Islam. Once the religion itself spread I tell you, I'm just predicting in 20, 30 years' time, all Papua New Guinea will submit to Islam.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

An interesting article by the Age regarding domestic violence and a lack of rights for women in Australia. Not to mention welfare fraud.

"They come from their own little village and culture and say this is what Islam is," one woman is quoted saying. "They come from a village where there is no running water and electricity, and they bring their dark ideas into this country."

Source:
http://www.theage.com.au/national/local-muslim-clerics-accused-20081120-6ctp.html