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Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

City Pacific has cited global market volatility as the reason for its decision to postpone the float of its First Mortgage Fund.
Hopefully WC have the good sense to do the same.

Here's the email that City Pacific sent to its First Mortgage Fund holders on Monday.

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Subject: Important Notice Regarding Distributions
From: enquiries@citypac.com.au
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:07:47

Dear Sir,

Important Notice Regarding Distributions
City Pacific First Mortgage Fund (Fund)
I write to you in a time when our global markets face unprecedented volatility and each day brings a new development in this global credit and liquidity crisis (Global Financial Crisis). This weekend the world leaders met in Washington to co-ordinate a global campaign to end the escalating crisis.

The Global Financial Crisis has had a significant impact on the Australian property and financial markets and this has proven to be a very challenging year for our Fund. Preserving the value of our Fund's assets is paramount to ensure that the property values can be realized when the market stabilizes and this remains our primary objective for the ultimate benefit of our unitholders.

On 24 September 2008 I wrote to notify you of our revised strategy to give liquidity to those unitholders who have expressed an urgent need to access their funds and of our expectation to recommence the payment of distributions.
The proposal to list the Fund on the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX) is considered to be the most effective strategy to provide those unitholders with a liquidity solution in the timeliest manner. However, since that date there have been significant developments in the world markets which continue to have devastating effects on the stability of the entire global financial system.

On Friday 10 October 2008 the ASX suffered its second worst trading day in history, with investors losing $106 billion in value as the Australian share market fell by 8.2%. As a result of these catastrophic market conditions, the Directors, along with our advisors, have this weekend reconsidered the listing of the Fund on the ASX and concluded that there is too much volatility and uncertainty in the world markets to proceed with the proposal at this time.

The Directors consider that listing the Fund in the current economic environment is unlikely to achieve the liquidity objective for those unitholders seeking to exit the Fund. As evidenced on Friday there is extreme uncertainty in the global share markets and the underlying value of assets is no longer reflected in the trading prices of listed securities. The Directors do not want to seek a listing of the Fund at a time when the global share markets continue to be extremely volatile, accordingly the proposal to list the Fund has been postponed.

With regard to the payment of distributions, the repayment to the Fund of a number of loans has been delayed following the impact of the Global Financial Crisis. The settlement of these transactions (due on 30 September 2008) would have provided sufficient funds for the reduction of the Fund's finance facility, the payment of existing progress draws to borrowers and the payment of the September distributions. As a result of these continued delays we have been negotiating with the Fund's financier to secure an extension to the Fund's finance facility.

Renegotiation of the Fund's Finance Facility
Since March 2008 we have taken decisive action to progressively reduce the Fund's finance facility to $121.5 million. Although the facility has been reduced the Fund has been unable to meet scheduled repayment dates due to delays in the loan repayments to the Fund by borrowers.

The facility is due for repayment on 31 October 2008 however due to the delays in borrowers' repayments to the Fund, we are negotiating a further extension on terms which are acceptable to the financier.

We will continue to work with the financier to ensure that we protect the value of the Fund for the benefit of all stakeholders during this period of unprecedented market turmoil.

Non-payment of distributions

The Fund continues to meet the payment of progress draws to borrowers in order that they may complete their respective projects. This will allow for the settlement of pre-sales which in turn will enable the borrowers to repay their loans and allow the Fund to reduce its finance facility. It is therefore with deep regret that I notify you that the Fund will not be in a position to pay distributions for the months of September and October as all available funds are required to be applied to the reduction of the Fund's finance facility, the payment of progress draws to borrowers and to meet the operating costs of the Fund.

Moving forward the payment of distributions will be dependent upon the level and timing of loan repayments by borrowers to the Fund, taking into account the requirements of the stakeholders.

Status of the Fund's loan portfolio

There is clear evidence that lending by Australian banks continues to tighten and companies are finding it increasingly difficult to fund new investments and refinance their existing debt commitments. The effects of this Global Financial Crisis have and continue to impact the Australian property market and as a result we have seen a significant decrease in the volume of property sales in the last 6 months.

Our Fund has not been immune to the effects of the Global Financial Crisis and I take this opportunity to provide you with a snapshot of the Fund's loan repayment cash flow during 2008. The graph and table below illustrate the impact that the liquidity crisis has had on the Fund's borrowers being:

an inability to refinance their loans with banks due to insufficient funding being available in the financial markets; and

an inability to repay their loans as and when they are due as a result of the significant slowdown in property sales.

I would like to highlight that the inability of the Fund's borrowers to repay or refinance their loans is not a reflection on the quality of the borrowers' projects, or inaction by borrowers or City Pacific, but rather the result of the adverse market conditions that currently exist as explained above. The quality of the Fund's assets is further evidenced by the Fund maintaining an unaudited net tangible asset position of $0.97 (after impairment) as at 30 September 2008.

In order to further demonstrate the impact of the current market conditions on the Fund's borrowers I would like to highlight the following example for your consideration:

The Fund currently has a loan to an experienced developer completing a residential highrise building located in South East Queensland. The building comprises luxury apartments with uninterrupted ocean views and is due for completion in November 2008. The developer has 75% pre-sales which were achieved prior to April 2008. In the last 6 months the sales centre has maintained an active marketing campaign but has not been able to sell any of the remaining apartments.

I give this example to illustrate that even a premium quality building in a prime location, which achieved significant pre-sales is now not attracting buyers.
With consideration to the market conditions we continue to actively manage the Fund's loan portfolio and take whatever action is appropriate on a case by case basis to protect our unitholders' investments.

Non-liquid Managed Investment Scheme (non-liquid fund)

Due to the increase in the delays of repayments by borrowers to the Fund, and our expectation that this trend will continue as a result of the current market conditions, it is unlikely that the Fund will be in a position to commence the payment of redemptions on 26 February 2009. This factor has caused the Board, in conjunction with its advisors, to consider that the Fund has become non-liquid and will therefore now operate as a non-liquid fund.

The Fund will continue to repay its finance facility and meet funding obligations to existing borrowers to ensure that projects are completed to allow for the loans to be repaid.

As a non-liquid fund all existing redemption requests will be extinguished and the redemption process will operate in accordance with the Corporations Act as follows:

the Fund will make periodic redemption offers to all unitholders at times when there are sufficient funds available to do so. The Board will determine the amount that constitutes 'sufficient funds' for a redemption offer to be made. The Board does not expect to make redemption offers where less than 10% of total unitholders funds are available for redemption;

redemption offers will be made in writing to all unitholders and will specify the amount of funds available for that redemption offer. Unitholders wishing to redeem will be required to respond to the redemption offer stating the amount they wish to redeem (redemption request);

in the event there is an oversubscription to the redemption offer (i.e. the amount of the redemption requests exceeds the amount of the redemption offer), the redemptions will be paid on a pro-rata basis to all unitholders who have submitted a redemption request.

The Board has resolved that whilst the Fund remains a non-liquid fund it is inappropriate to pay a different distribution rate to each class of units on issue. Historically the differential distribution rate was a reflection of the term a unitholder chose to invest in the Fund, the longer the term of investment the higher the distribution rate (when compared with other distribution rates paid by the Fund).


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Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

....continued from FMF email extract above. (too many characters - wouldn't fit on the one post)

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Whilst the Fund remains a non-liquid fund any distributions paid by the Fund will be paid equally between each class of unitholders.

The basis for this decision is to treat all unitholders equally such that all unitholders will be entitled to redemptions and distributions equally.

Given the continuing impact of the Global Financial Crisis on the Australian property market the timing of redemption offers will be dependent upon available funds derived from the realisation of the loan portfolio. Our priorities remain to:

preserve the value of our Fund's assets to ensure that the property values can be realised when the market stabilises; and

recommence the payment of distributions, for the ultimate benefit of our unitholders.

Listing of the Fund

The decision by the Board in March 2008 to defer redemptions was made to protect the underlying assets of the Fund. At the time the decision was made it was our intention to resume redemptions within the permitted deferral period. In order to resume the payment of redemptions the Fund was reliant on the receipt of forecast loan repayments however many of those repayments have not occurred due to the reasons I have outlined above.

We are aware that there are a number of unitholders who have expressed a need to urgently access their funds, which currently the Fund is unable to provide. In light of the pressure on the Fund created by this demand and the current condition of the property market we have investigated strategies that will provide those unitholders with liquidity whilst allowing the Fund to continue operating to ensure the protection of the assets for those unitholders not seeking to exit the Fund.
We still consider listing the Fund on the ASX to be the most effective strategy to achieve the above objectives, however the Directors consider that there is too much volatility and uncertainty in the world markets to proceed with the proposal at this time.

Unitholder seminars to continue

The Directors believe that it is imperative for City Pacific to address unitholders regarding the information contained in this letter and allow you to pose any questions you may have.

A schedule of the seminars being held in October and November around Australia is attached and I would like to recommend that you attend one of these seminars if you are able. In order to minimise costs we are holding these seminars in locations where there is the largest concentration of unitholders, accordingly I would like to apologise in advance to those members who are not able to attend due to the location of the seminars.
On behalf of our Board and staff I would like to take this opportunity to reassure you that your interests are our priority and our focus remains to preserve the quality and value of the assets of our Fund.

City Pacific First Mortgage Fund Investor Seminar Details

CITY PACIFIC LIMITED

Phil Sullivan
Managing Director & CEO

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Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Thanks for posting the City Pacific email. It’s a nice change to read a letter from a fund manager that isn’t threatening to fire sale assets due to not being able to meet redemptions.
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

As far as I could understand as an onlooker, All 3 resolutions were passed at the EGM today held at the Gold Coast.
Funds can be traded on NSX tomorrow. All o/s debts owed BY the fund should be paid within a month and Wellington are said to be pushing hard to get back as much money as possible that is owed to the fund. Jenny is "optimistic" about the future so we will all either join her for the ride or try to sell on NSX or request part of the .45 cents buy back next year (if you are lucky to get in the allocated 3% of funds available)
Jenny is dedicated to build the fund up.
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

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And here is another little gem, when the fund does get listed on the NSX one could assume that your details will be all the more available.

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When listed on any exchange, why would individual details be available to every Tom, Dick and Harriette?
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I'm saying that registers made available to the general public should not (as they do now) contain info regarding the number of units held by each individual on the register unless an individual allows that. ...

Rance :)
The joys of being listed...
Top 20 Shareholders:
http://www.nsxa.com.au/ftp/news/021720769.PDF

Lots of other info here including results. Looks like 51.2% of all available units voted FOR resolution 3.
http://www.nsxa.com.au/announcements_list.asp?nsxcode=PIN
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

I wonder where Mr Rance is hiding now perhaps he should try to sue JH for breach of privacy laws LOL
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

I wonder where Mr Rance is hiding now perhaps he should try to sue JH for breach of privacy laws LOL
Good evening all! Yes I'm back and rearing to go!

1) I had a discussion with an officer of the Office of the Privacy Commissioner some weeks ago. The Office is not in favour of the present situation whereby shareholder lists are available with information about number of units held, and my complaint about this situation is just one of many received by the OPC. It is a lawful anomaly which the OPC would like to see changed.

2) I was also told that an American company is currently holding discussions with the ASX, brokers, etc regarding a share trading system where the identities of the parties involved in a trade and the number of shares held by them remain anonymous. Has anyone heard of this?

Meanwhile, onwards we go... I don't have Foxtel so I'll listen to the Socceroos on ABC 702 radio.

Cheers to all.

Rance :chimney
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Lots of other info here including results. Looks like 51.2% of all available units voted FOR resolution 3.
http://www.nsxa.com.au/announcements_list.asp?nsxcode=PIN[/QUOTE Dora]

What about all the unit holders who didn't receive new voting forms until a day or two before votes had to be lodged ?? Did they get counted ??? Have all unit holders been treated fairly and equally ??
Do the vote counts quoted (in this pre-written speech) include votes submitted at the meeting ??
Can we demand a re-count on Res.3 ??!!!!
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

I have decided to transfer all my units over to my son / When i told him what i am doing he replied Thanks Dad But thanks for nothing He may get something if he livers for another 30 or 40 years //////////
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Lots of other info here including results. Looks like 51.2% of all available units voted FOR resolution 3.
http://www.nsxa.com.au/announcements_list.asp?nsxcode=PIN[/QUOTE Dora]

What about all the unit holders who didn't receive new voting forms until a day or two before votes had to be lodged ?? Did they get counted ??? Have all unit holders been treated fairly and equally ??
Do the vote counts quoted (in this pre-written speech) include votes submitted at the meeting ??
Can we demand a re-count on Res.3 ??!!!!

I agree with you that not everyone would have received the corrective info. It seems even without the votes cast on the day that res 3 would have passed anyway. I was particularly interested to see if it passed based on an extraordinary resolution which it did (51% of all available units not just of those that voted). BTW: I didn't count the votes classified as 'open' are these the proxy forms that were sent in signed but blank for each res? (i.e. does Open = FOR?)
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

4 bidders are ready to swoop.
one for 45c (2,000 units), two for 15c, and 1 more for 5c (100,000 units).

See attached.
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Yes i think all investors should read this

If this has been correctly quoted she is stating we may get 45cents back in
out of our total investment in 3 to 5 years after inflation

This is going to be worse than the chinese torture "death by a thousand cuts "

Also their were six other Re who expressed an interst in taking over our Fund

Of course JH and Chris Scott made damn sure we never got a chance to see any alternative offers

I would hate to have millions tied up in this like some i know

Wonder what the offers are on the NSX today i am not even game to look

Ms Hutson said Wellington had been up against six other firms in seeking to manage PIF and its appointment was "a commercial transaction done on arm's-length terms".

She said Wellington envisaged restoring 45c in the dollar to unitholders in three to five years.

Under a liquidation scenario, unitholders would have received 14c, she said.
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

4 bidders are ready to swoop.
one for 45c (2,000 units), two for 15c, and 1 more for 5c (100,000 units).

See attached.
Hi Juan,
I suppose you were being sarcastic in your comment however, as is often the case in share trading the 2000@ 45c could be a dummy bid whilst the others at 15 & 5 cents are a worry ????
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Yes i think all investors should read this

If this has been correctly quoted she is stating we may get 45cents back in
out of our total investment in 3 to 5 years after inflation

This is going to be worse than the chinese torture "death by a thousand cuts "

Also their were six other Re who expressed an interst in taking over our Fund

Of course JH and Chris Scott made damn sure we never got a chance to see any alternative offers

I would hate to have millions tied up in this like some i know

Wonder what the offers are on the NSX today i am not even game to look

Ms Hutson said Wellington had been up against six other firms in seeking to manage PIF and its appointment was "a commercial transaction done on arm's-length terms".

She said Wellington envisaged restoring 45c in the dollar to unitholders in three to five years.

Under a liquidation scenario, unitholders would have received 14c, she said.

Hi Jadel,

Let's not beat around the bush, JH should show us details of how the 14c
figure was arrived at??? this appears to be SPIN as we are getting from our poli's???
The matter of having been up against six other firms has been mentioned by JH on several occasions without any proof/back up evidence!! just more spin???? arm's length my foot!!, a very convenient in house arrangement for all concerned....!!!
Well the proof of the pudding.... etc
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

5 cents! 5 cents! Was this price expected on the first day or is it as terrible as I think it is? Will these 5 cent buyers be getting the 3 cent distributions before Christmas like us? Dumb question probably, but I'd like to know. Hopefully the answer will be "no."
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

5 cents! 5 cents! Was this price expected on the first day or is it as terrible as I think it is? Will these 5 cent buyers be getting the 3 cent distributions before Christmas like us? Dumb question probably, but I'd like to know. Hopefully the answer will be "no."

Hi selciper,
Unfortunately it is as terrible as you think?? it could not be anything else considering the new rules of the PIF and no other way to get out!! as some people on here tried to warn in the past (refer to previous posts, I won't go over the details again??) but were shouted down by others!!!!!
I am unsure about the 3 cents distribution but assume the buyers own the units and will be entitled to it?? Can anyone else clarify ???
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

...Will these 5 cent buyers be getting the 3 cent distributions before Christmas like us? Dumb question probably, but I'd like to know. Hopefully the answer will be "no."

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I am unsure about the 3 cents distribution but assume the buyers own the units and will be entitled to it?? Can anyone else clarify ???

The answer is yes, assuming someone is willing to sell at this price. It doesn't matter what price a unit is purchased for - WC anticipate giving everyone 3 cents per unit before Christmas.
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Hi selciper,
Unfortunately it is as terrible as you think?? it could not be anything else considering the new rules of the PIF and no other way to get out!! as some people on here tried to warn in the past (refer to previous posts, I won't go over the details again??) but were shouted down by others!!!!!
I am unsure about the 3 cents distribution but assume the buyers own the units and will be entitled to it?? Can anyone else clarify ???

Yes, if the transaction is sealed, signed and completed before the due distribution date, of course the buyer will receive the distribution. It's no different to buying/selling shares. But tell me, who is going to sell at 5 cents per unit?

Rance :confused:
 
Re: Octaviar MFS Premium Income Fund PIF

Well Im a little surprised by the lack of action on the NSX.

From the discussions on here and the media, people wanted the NSX so as to be able to realise their investment. Yet there have been no trades. Even with someone offering 45c.

In light of that, the only thing that I can think of is that it is just so difficult to actually trade on there. The amount of brokers is limited.

That can be the only reason. How many have said in the past that they would be very willing to accept 45c. Admittedly it is only for 2000 shares. But still I thought someone would take it up.

And to those that were concerned about your information being known before.....welcome to the world of being publicly listed ;)

BTW.....does anyone know the date for being a holder in order to receive the 3c distribution? At 5c with a 3c distribution......it does seem like a bargain :)
 
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