What are the 8 white poisonous foods we eat?

[gav]

Re: What are the 8 white poisonous foods we eat

and yep - animal fat (white at room temp) as distict from the goodoil like olive, coconut (cold pressed of course)

interesting that the eskimoes - used to be the most disease free race on earth and had no problems with white fat which they ate a lot of - but they ate it raw

and also interesting that there is significant opinion about in the health nut circles that processed oils like canola and other veg oils (heated and damaged during processing are more of a health issue than white fat

True, these oils turn to trans fats when heated. Macadamia oil has a higher smoking point, so is a good alternative. And coconut oil is one of the only oils that doesnt turn to trans fats when heated

 

[prawn_86]

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Well looks like im happily and obliviously eating myself to death. (despite being no-where near overweight)

There are worse ways to die...

 

[ck13488]

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Ok, a quiet day on the market after lotsa buzz monday, so thought I'd pose the question "what are the eight white colour food we (generalisation) we regularly consume?"
some guidelines:
I mean basic foods, not composites like icecream
And a "food" in this instance can be a drink......

what do you mean "poisonous foods" are you talking bad for your health in general or foods that actually have a negative physical impact on the body like a poison/drug....

i got no idea what your on about...must have drank too much poisonous milk haha

 

[So_Cynical]

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True, these oils turn to trans fats when heated. Macadamia oil has a higher smoking point, so is a good alternative. And coconut oil is one of the only oils that doesnt turn to trans fats when heated

I thought coconut oil was bad...in the same way that palm oil
is bad, both bad cos they will burn in a lamp. :dunno:

Soz for slightly off topic.

 

[Green08]

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Monosodium Glutamate is a salt of the amino acid - Glutamic Acid (glutamate). A salt is the chemical name for a molecule held together by opposite charges. Basically one (mono) sodium atom is "stuck" to the amino acid glutamate. Isn't that clasified as a composite. It doesn't just grow.

8 poisonous food? Does that include people allergic to certain white food/ Then the list could get very interesting.

white sugar
salt
white flour
Cocaine - ok it's illegal but you could possible eat it and die from an overdose!
Allergies to
milk
yogurt
white flesh fish
egg white

 

[Green08]

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True, these oils turn to trans fats when heated. Macadamia oil has a higher smoking point, so is a good alternative. And coconut oil is one of the only oils that doesnt turn to trans fats when heated

Gav is right- new chemical testing revealing the truth.

"Approximately 50% of the fatty acids in coconut fat are lauric acid. Lauric acid is a medium chain fatty acid, which has the additional beneficial function of being formed into monolaurin in the human or animal body. Monolaurin is the anti-viral, antibacterial, and antiprotozoal monoglyceride used by the human or animal to destroy lipid coated viruses such as HIV, herpes, cytomegalovirus, influenza, various pathogenic bacteria including listeria monocytogenes and heliobacter pylori, and protozoa such as giardia lamblia. Some studies have also shown some antimicrobial effects of the free lauric acid."

That doesn't mean mixed with sugar and double dipped in chocolate!

 

[treefrog]

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I can only add potato to that list.

cheers
Surly

bingo!

 

[treefrog]

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what do you mean "poisonous foods" are you talking bad for your health in general or foods that actually have a negative physical impact on the body like a poison/drug....

i got no idea what your on about...must have drank too much poisonous milk haha

slow acting poisons ck - wouldn't be likely any average health person could consume enough of any one of these in a short period (except salt, maybe MSG - don't know there) to end up seriously poisoned
slow acting in that there is now a pretty good body of direct and epidemilogical evidence that many of us end up getting heart disease and/or cancer and or diabetes from eating them over a long period which can be from age 12 up

 

[ck13488]

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slow acting poisons ck - wouldn't be likely any average health person could consume enough of any one of these in a short period (except salt, maybe MSG - don't know there) to end up seriously poisoned
slow acting in that there is now a pretty good body of direct and epidemilogical evidence that many of us end up getting heart disease and/or cancer and or diabetes from eating them over a long period which can be from age 12 up

what about the ~200,000 years or so where people ONLY ate things that grew from the ground or ran/flew/swam .

using common sense one would assume its the processing to these foods which cause the increased morbidity

 

[Green08]

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what about the ~200,000 years or so where people ONLY ate things that grew from the ground or ran/flew/swam .

using common sense one would assume its the processing to these foods which cause the increased morbidity

Which takes us back to permaculture and healthy living.

 

[Mofra]

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Almonds? (Well they're white inside)

Apparently it took a few centuries of domestification before they could be safely consumed by humans (hardly worth the effort huh?).

I find corn just as strange - wild corn grows to a largest size of a thumb, again years of cultivation were required to grow it to a practical size.

 

[treefrog]

Re: What are the 8 white poisonous foods we eat

Monosodium Glutamate is a salt of the amino acid - Glutamic Acid (glutamate). A salt is the chemical name for a molecule held together by opposite charges. Basically one (mono) sodium atom is "stuck" to the amino acid glutamate. Isn't that clasified as a composite. It doesn't just grow.

8 poisonous food? Does that include people allergic to certain white food/ Then the list could get very interesting.

white sugar
salt
white flour
Cocaine - ok it's illegal but you could possible eat it and die from an overdose!
Allergies to
milk
yogurt
white flesh fish
egg white

may well have to include the allergy items Greenie, although my thoughts were when I originally posted that items would be those that are generally accepted as affecting all of us to a greater or lesser degree.
::
the last one I originally had in mind was fluoride (a schedule 6 poison) in the Oz water supplies
:::
all white;
so list to this point is ;
1) potatoes
2) sugar
3) salt
4) milk
5) rice
6) flour
7) fluoride
8) fat
and extending
9) MSG
10) corn starch
pretty much as said along the way almost every food that has been processed - fat and potatoes not processed

 

[Green08]

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Tree frog

Purpose of this research?

 

[Pat]

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Eating anything white should be made illegal. It's costing us tax payers squillions.

 

[Julia]

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What is the problem with potatoes?
Why are they poisonous?
Source of this allegation?

Presumably you're not suggesting that such stuff as sugar and salt should be eliminated altogether?

 

[treefrog]

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Tree frog

Purpose of this research?

can't claim any purpose 08 - someone reminded me recently there were five and we came up with the 8 in discussion so just thought a few more heads may come up with a few more

What is the problem with potatoes?
Why are they poisonous?
Source of this allegation?

Presumably you're not suggesting that such stuff as sugar and salt should be eliminated altogether?

yep J the poor ol' humble spud gets a serious hiding because its almost pure starch which the body quickly converts to sugar
"Researchers measured the GI of over 300 foods & found many surprises. For example, baked potatoes (GI=121) rated almost as high as white sugar (GI=142). Who would eat a baked potato sized serving of white sugar & think it was doing you any good?"

No, but most people have not the slightest idea how much sugar they consume and how bad it is in quantity. The more subtle fruit sugars are considered more than enough.

I attended a public awareness workshop as a Health Advisory Council rep a couple of years ago and the principle speaker (public health reseacher) asked us to rate 10 items from most to least harmful to general health - usual stuff: 2 cigarettes, can of coke, pint of beer, kitchener bun, small hot chips etc
no one put the coke as more harmful than 2 cigs but reseacher adamant coke more harmful (in their view) reasons etc but no formal reseach to back up......made us think.

 

[Whiskers]

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may well have to include the allergy items Greenie, although my thoughts were when I originally posted that items would be those that are generally accepted as affecting all of us to a greater or lesser degree.
::
the last one I originally had in mind was fluoride (a schedule 6 poison) in the Oz water supplies
:::
all white;
so list to this point is ;
1) potatoes
2) sugar
3) salt
4) milk
5) rice
6) flour
7) fluoride
8) fat
and extending
9) MSG
10) corn starch
pretty much as said along the way almost every food that has been processed - fat and potatoes not processed

Not sure some are poisonious per-se, but I'm aware that many poisons and other chemicals get locked into the fat molecules of animals that we consume... including radioactive fallout.

Are you distinguishing between 'english' potatoes and sweet potatoes?

I've seen a considerable shift in growing and promotion to the sweet varieties for better health and nutrition reasons.

Toxic components of potato
As part of the potato plant's natural defences against fungi and insects, its leaves, stems and sprouts contain high levels of toxic compounds called glycoalkaloids (usually solanine and chaconine). Glycoalkaloids are normally found at low levels in the tuber, and occur in the greatest concentrations just beneath the skin.

Potatoes should be stored in a dark, cool place in order to keep glycoalkaloid content low. Under exposure to light, potatoes turn green in colour due to increased levels of chlorophyll, which can also indicate higher levels of solanine and chaconine. Since glycoalkaloids are not destroyed by cooking, cutting away green areas and peeling potatoes before cooking ensures healthy eating
http://www.potato2008.org/en/potato/factsheets.html

Sweet Potatoes Health Benefits
Recent research studies on sweet potato has also focussed on two areas of unique health benefit. First are some unique root storage proteins in this food that have been observed to have significant antioxidant capacities. In one study, these proteins had about one-third the antioxidant activity of glutathione - one of the body's most impressive internally produced antioxidants. Although future studies are needed in this area, count on these root proteins to help explain sweet potatoes' healing properties.

Second is the recent classification of sweet potato as an "antidiabetic" food. Sweet potato has been given this label because of some recent animal studies in which sweet potato helped stabilize blood sugar levels and lowered insulin resistance. (Insulin resistance is a problem caused when cells don't respond to the hormone insulin, which is supposed to act as a key and unlock the cell in order to allow sugar to pass from the blood into the cell). Some of its blood sugar regulatory properties may come from come from the fact that sweet potatoes are concentrated in carotenoids. Research has suggested that physiological levels, as well as dietary intake, of carotenoids may be inversely associated with insulin resistance and high blood sugar levels. Once again, more research is needed in this area, but the stage is set for sweet potato to show unique healing properties in the area of blood sugar control.http://www.organicfood.com.au/Content_Common/pg-sweetpotato-information.seo

 

[gav]

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Gav is right- new chemical testing revealing the truth.

And who says bodybuilding isnt healthy?!

Whilst I wouldnt consume potato before going to bed, its great stuff pre-workout for an energy boost. Sweet potato is a good alternative, has a lower GI. I have used both in the past, but now prefer to stick to fats as my main energy source

 

[treefrog]

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1)Not sure some are poisonious per-se, but I'm aware that many poisons and other chemicals get locked into the fat molecules of animals that we consume... including radioactive fallout.

2)Are you distinguishing between 'english' potatoes and sweet potatoes?

3)I've seen a considerable shift in growing and promotion to the sweet varieties for better health and nutrition reasons.

1) "white poisons" more an alarmist term to get awareness that they are dumb food choices - the core of hi processed carb food of today. Really interesting that the baddies are almost all white
2) yep just the white classic potato - do we get sweet type in white - thought they were yellow type or orange type
3) agree with shift from white potato - original spud came from Peru mountain areas and was very nutritious but no bigger than average thumb - they still collect and cultivate but we are much smarter than they and have developed a large white fluffy one that is actually edible if you add lashings of butter, salt and sugar (via the milk or cream) when we mash'em.

 

[Whiskers]

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1) 2) yep just the white classic potato - do we get sweet type in white - thought they were yellow type or orange type

Yeah there is a white one, but there are numerous varities now... white, yellow and purple skins ranging from white to creamish, yellow to orangeish inside.

Varieties: There are two broad categories of sweet potato:
- The staple type with white flesh and white or purple skin has a high
starch and dry matter content.
- The dessert type with orange flesh and orange skin with a high sugar
and B-carotene content.
There are numerous cultivated varieties of both types.
http://www.nt.gov.au/d/Content/File/p/Vegetable/VF9.pdf

3) agree with shift from white potato - original spud came from Peru mountain areas and was very nutritious but no bigger than average thumb - they still collect and cultivate but we are much smarter than they and have developed a large white fluffy one that is actually edible if you add lashings of butter, salt and sugar (via the milk or cream) when we mash'em.

That's the traditional way I was brought up with ... but have now switched to adding a zucchini and some herbs/spices instead of milk and butter or adding pumpkin to make a rough mash. Much healthier and tastes good too.