What are the 8 white poisonous foods we eat?

[prawn_86]

Re: What are the 8 white poisonous foods we eat

How much longer do you think you would live, or healthier you would feel if you didnt eat all that stuff?

And is it really worth it for a couple extra yrs??

I would rather be cut short a few year and enjoy food than eating a bland diet. (And at this point i am the healthiest i have been since my football days)

 

[seasprite]

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speaking of milk. I seen a snippet of a documentary where a chimpanzee infant was sick , so the mother ate the infant's excrement and then breast fed the infant to cure it.
Good luck ladies , fortunately males cannot breast feed ,
and in saying that , I think you may want to add toothpaste to the list.

 

[The Once-ler]

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slow acting poisons ck - wouldn't be likely any average health person could consume enough of any one of these in a short period (except salt, maybe MSG - don't know there) to end up seriously poisoned
slow acting in that there is now a pretty good body of direct and epidemilogical evidence that many of us end up getting heart disease and/or cancer and or diabetes from eating them over a long period which can be from age 12 up

If these foods are so bad, how come we are all living longer, and going up all the time? Aussie men now live longest in the world.

Heart disease and cancer is increasing due to longer lifespans. If everyone is living to 80 or so, more chance of cancer and heart disease finishing us off.



This whole thread is stupid. One of the stupidest ever on this great forum.

 

[prawn_86]

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This whole thread is stupid. One of the stupidest ever on this great forum.

LOL. Thats a bit harsh.

The forum is here for discussion, and obviously some people are interested in this topic.

 

[prawn_86]

Re: What are the 8 white poisonous foods we eat

Ok so my breakfast just consisted of:

2 eggs fried in olive oil
white (homemade) bread
ham
cheese
tomato
dash of salt

What should i have ate instead in order to get the protein and carbs i need to put on weight?

And dont say protein shakes cause they taste like crap...

 

[treefrog]

Re: What are the 8 white poisonous foods we eat

How much longer do you think you would live, or healthier you would feel if you didnt eat all that stuff?

And is it really worth it for a couple extra yrs??

I would rather be cut short a few year and enjoy food than eating a bland diet. (And at this point i am the healthiest i have been since my football days)

well assuming you eat your fair share of this stuff very recent reseach (i did not record details but was extensive news item just last week) was claiming many years of reseach on this issue (obesity from carbs) has determined you lose 4years only - not as much as some have implied.
Still other reseach in the UK though points solidly to a much poorer quality of life in later years before you expire - cancer, heart disease, diabetes treatments: and ironically, treatments often require most of these white foods to be cut from your diet anyway so you get less choice.

Particularly so if you are in the low socio-econ bucket - as much as 14 extra years poor health.

Yes all about choices and many people prefer to be unaware/indifferent but happy - bit like smokers really - don't want to know

 

[treefrog]

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Ok so my breakfast just consisted of:

2 eggs fried in olive oil
white (homemade) bread
ham
cheese
tomato
dash of salt

What should i have ate instead in order to get the protein and carbs i need to put on weight?

And dont say protein shakes cause they taste like crap...

not qualified to answer that ray - has your doc told you to eat to gain weight??
your breaky sounds good compared to someone who eats the usual cereal and milk which is high sugar cra.p and much better to eat the cereal packet
also depends if you are trying to gain muscle or fat as to what best to eat
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interesting about the shakes - agree there, I tried them a few years back and found only one (produced by a Dr Walker) was good - had to import from US though and not sure if still available - was part of the Walker Diet (atkins based so low carb hi protein stuff)

 

[prawn_86]

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not qualified to answer that ray - has your doc told you to eat to gain weight??

No but im trying to over summer so i can play footy next season without my legs giving way like they usually do...

 

[Doris]

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Gav is right- new chemical testing revealing the truth.

"Approximately 50% of the fatty acids in coconut fat are lauric acid. Lauric acid is a medium chain fatty acid, which has the additional beneficial function of being formed into monolaurin in the human or animal body. Monolaurin is the anti-viral, antibacterial, and antiprotozoal monoglyceride used by the human or animal to destroy lipid coated viruses such as HIV, herpes, cytomegalovirus, influenza, various pathogenic bacteria including listeria monocytogenes and heliobacter pylori, and protozoa such as giardia lamblia. Some studies have also shown some antimicrobial effects of the free lauric acid."

That doesn't mean mixed with sugar and double dipped in chocolate!

Thanks for this. I've been meaning to research Coconut Oil since someone told me they have a tablespoon a day. His argument was that you could leave coconut oil at room temperature for months and it would not go rancid. That actually concerned me as my mother always said if a bug won't eat lettuce then we shouldn't either! But the coconut oil apparently did not produce free radicals hence cellular damage... that antioxidants counteract.

Coconut oil, as palm oil, is indeed the most saturated fat, hence raises LDLs (bad cholesterol). Any 'blended vegetable oil' has palm oil and is very good if you're wanting a heart attack or a stroke.

If you do dip with chocolate don't use cheap compounded chocolate. A guy from Lindt told me that it and Freddo Frogs had the cocoa butter replaced with seca nut fat... so it wouldn't melt at room temperature and to save money. Seca nut fat, being fully saturated, is poison too.

 

[Pat]

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What if I eat a lot of fibre with my starch? Doesn't that lower its GI?

We need our electrolytes (sugars and salts).

 

[Doris]

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slow acting poisons ck - wouldn't be likely any average health person could consume enough of any one of these in a short period (except salt, maybe MSG - don't know there) to end up seriously poisoned
slow acting in that there is now a pretty good body of direct and epidemilogical evidence that many of us end up getting heart disease and/or cancer and or diabetes from eating them over a long period which can be from age 12 up

I recall research about ten years ago:
Someone who ate healthy food until 16yo then ate only junk food - would be healthier at 40yo than someone who ate junk food until 16yo and then ate only healthy food.

The first five years, when the body is initially being built, is paramount for diet.
But of course when 40+, people always say 'if only I'd eaten properly'.

But then it's a fact today that stress is the greatest killer - and exercise is the greatest antidote for stress.

 

[Doris]

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And who says bodybuilding isnt healthy?!

Whilst I wouldnt consume potato before going to bed, its great stuff pre-workout for an energy boost. Sweet potato is a good alternative, has a lower GI. I have used both in the past, but now prefer to stick to fats as my main energy source

The heart enlarges from chronic overexercising... wears out faster.

No more than one third of energy should come from fat.

 

[gav]

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Ok so my breakfast just consisted of:

2 eggs fried in olive oil
white (homemade) bread
ham
cheese
tomato
dash of salt

What should i have ate instead in order to get the protein and carbs i need to put on weight?

And dont say protein shakes cause they taste like crap...

Increase the amount of eggs you have would be a good start. How many meals per day do you have? Whether your goal is to gain weight or lose it, increase the number of meals. Its the macronutrient breakdown that needs to change. Having more smaller meals throughout the day speeds up metabolism, so if you are in a calorie deficet you will lose more weight, and if you are trying to put on weight, the weight you put on is more likely to be lean muscle mass.

Yes there are many proteins out there that taste bad. But there are good ones too. If its a straight protein you want, I'd recommend Dymatize Elite, or Horleys Crossfire. For weight gainers, Horleys Aswome Mass is really good. I have used all these products and they taste pretty good.

My breakfast consists of 6 whole eggs covered in cheese, with a bit of tomato sauce. I eat 8 meals per day (not including shakes)

 

[gav]

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The heart enlarges from chronic overexercising... wears out faster.

No more than one third of energy should come from fat.

Who said anything about chronic over exercising? 5 x 1hr weight sessions in the gym is hardly over excercising.

Where did you read that no more than one third of energy should come from fat? I would say about half of my energy comes from fat. The rest is from carbs, and excess protein being converted to glycogen. I still have 2 large carb meals per week. This is called 'carb cycling', and ive had great results so far. Eliminating carbs all together is a no-no, especially for active people.

 

[ck13488]

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Ok so my breakfast just consisted of:

2 eggs fried in olive oil
white (homemade) bread
ham
cheese
tomato
dash of salt

What should i have ate instead in order to get the protein and carbs i need to put on weight?

And dont say protein shakes cause they taste like crap...

more eggs and drop the salt, maybe swap ham for bacon as its saltier...i usually alternate between eggs and oats for breakfast

No but im trying to over summer so i can play footy next season without my legs giving way like they usually do...

if you want to build up your legs get into squats and lunges. i did over last off season and the gain in strength and speed of the mark was noticeable, i wasnt the only one to notice either

OT:gav, how 'big' are you? ive started getting more serious about my weights and know how important diet is...since ive cleaned it up ive noticed gains are much easier to come by!

 

[prawn_86]

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if you want to build up your legs get into squats and lunges. i did over last off season and the gain in strength and speed of the mark was noticeable, i wasnt the only one to notice either

I do squats and lunges every other day and run 2 - 3 times a week for CV endurance. I have a fast metabolism so i need to just focus on eating heaps.

 

[Pat]

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Who said anything about chronic over exercising?

I know there is some chronic dieting going on before comps. 1-5% body fat is pretty impressive though, excellent self control.

 

[Julia]

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Amongst all this discussion there needs to be a recognition of individual tolerance for given foodstuffs.

My father most days drank a full bottle of full fat cream, chose meat for its fat content, and fried rather than grilled many foods. He was never overweight, never had any raised cholesterol or cardiovascular disease.

 

[gav]

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I do squats and lunges every other day and run 2 - 3 times a week for CV endurance. I have a fast metabolism so i need to just focus on eating heaps.

Thats great, keep doing what you are doing if you are making progress. Squatting once per week is enough torture for me

 

[Pat]

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Amongst all this discussion there needs to be a recognition of individual tolerance for given foodstuffs.

I'd assume over the 1000's of years the human race has adapted to most or these slow acting poisons, so really they may not be poisonous at all.