Who are you voting for?

[2020hindsight]

Kevin 07 - and of course he'll be aiming to be more than a one-termer

That's if he even makes it that far

Nyden ...True lol -
one of us will be truly pissed off come announcement-of-the-winner time

 

[numbercruncher]

He hasnt said hes never going to do it, propaganda squad ....

"From my point of view, the key thing is closing the gap (between Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal living standards) and the key to this also is to introduce policies that give effect to closing the gap,'' Mr Rudd said.

"I am concerned about making advances on the practical front first. Let's take other things subsequent to that.''

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22808741-601,00.html

Whats more important fidding around with paper work or Improving Aboriginal living conditions and life expenctancy ?

 

[2020hindsight]

certainly Noel Pearson has been close to the Libs lately - then again the intervention (that he has supported so loudly) has conveniently skirted around his neck of the woods

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/31/2020784.htm

NLC chairman slams Pearson
Posted Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:48pm AEST
Updated Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:47pm AEST

Map: Darwin 0800
The chairman of the Northern Land Council (NLC) has taken a swipe at Cape York Aboriginal leader Noel Pearson during a speech in Darwin.

While speaking at the opening of the NLC's new building in Darwin, John Daly also attacked past and present Federal and Territory Governments for their treatment of Indigenous people.

Mr Daly attacked some of the aspects of the Commonwealth intervention - including the scrapping of the permit system.

He also said Indigenous Territorians do not want to be compared to people in other communities outside of the Northern Territory.

"We don't have a public relations outfit that tells you about our successful communities, we don't do weekly columns in newspapers moaning about our failures, we're just getting on on with it, slowly but surely," he said.

 

[Miner]

I'm voting for myself, I'm on the Senate ticket in Victoria

m.

Great to hear
So like the Tasmanian Senator who made teh deal in GST and created the opportunity to have a huge cash money (black money) which side will you take my dear would be senator ?
Regards

 

[Wysiwyg]

Let me expalin how inflation works , relevant to labour costs.
Pay rises are only inflationary if they are not accompanied by an increase in productivity, so if someone produces 10 items a week at a labor cost of a $1000 ($100 an item) and then get a pay rise of 10% ($1100) each item would now have labor cost of $110 , that causes inflation but if he now produces 11 items a week the labor cost would still be $100 an item , that’s not inflationary.

My wages and shopping trolley experience tells me that wage increase and goods and services increase happen together.I can`t see which comes first.What, do you really think that giving a bloke an extra buck an hour is gonna get him running faster.lol.

We need to invest in infrastructure again to help increase productivity.

Do you have peripheral vision????

There is no evidence that AWA's increase productivity and in fact the international evidence points to collective agreements(over individual agreements) giving the biggest increases in productivity.

Correct.

 

[rederob]

odds improving on coalition - down to $3.45 for a win from around $4 earlier in the week
mug punters still suggest it's a landslide looming
i'm pretty sure a politician will win
and lose

 

[chops_a_must]

I don't want to give anyone nightmares or anything.

But is it just me, or has Howard's behaviour and speeches this week reminded you of one of those guys practically begging girls for sex at a pub or nightclub? I'm sure the women will know what I mean. Anyway, I hope he doesn't go on to pick anyone up at this late hour.

 

[Aussiejeff]

I don't want to give anyone nightmares or anything.

But is it just me, or has Howard's behaviour and speeches this week reminded you of one of those guys practically begging girls for sex at a pub or nightclub? I'm sure the women will know what I mean. Anyway, I hope he doesn't go on to pick anyone up at this late hour.

On the radio this morning he sounded "punch drunk".... or maybe it was something stronger! He's on a 24 hour non-stop S.O.S. bender.....

LOL


AJ

 

[explod]

I worked a polling booth till 9.am today. And in my 40 years I have not seen such a focus of young people seeking ALP how to vote cards. The age group I would say was from 18 through to 32year olds.

Dont think it will affect the outcome here on the Mornington Peninsula, which is very stong Liberal, but may indicate a larger effect in other places.

 

[Aussiejeff]

I worked a polling booth till 9.am today. And in my 40 years I have not seen such a focus of young people seeking ALP how to vote cards. The age group I would say was from 18 through to 32year olds.

Dont think it will affect the outcome here on the Mornington Peninsula, which is very stong Liberal, but may indicate a larger effect in other places.

Hey Explod .... same thing occured at Wodonga West polling booth - massive queues of voters - not seen it like this before at 8.30am! Took almost 20 mins to get in. Lots of young voters asking for Labour how-to-vote papers. Go figure....

Now, for some reason I cannot get the Start New Thread option up. Maybe I have been banned! I thought it would be fun to start a post-poll "Who Did You Vote For Today" thread with the same options as this "Who Are You Going To Vote For" thread. Can you or anyone else set one up?? I can't wait to VOTE TWICE hahahaha... Let's see if ASF can predict the outcome before 7pm tonight!!

Cheers,

 

[chops_a_must]

I worked a polling booth till 9.am today. And in my 40 years I have not seen such a focus of young people seeking ALP how to vote cards. The age group I would say was from 18 through to 32year olds.

Dont think it will affect the outcome here on the Mornington Peninsula, which is very stong Liberal, but may indicate a larger effect in other places.

Is that really a surprise?

When you have absolutely screwed over young people as much as the Libs have?

 

[hangseng]

Is that really a surprise?

When you have absolutely screwed over young people as much as the Libs have?

"When you have absolutely screwed over young people as much as the Libs have?"

Yes, why would they want to have a strong robust economy with the lowest unemployment ever? Much better what Labour brought in, dole for school leavers, higher social security payments and many more such disincentives to work.

18-20 year olds should never have been given the vote (Labour again), they still in psycholigical and physiological development and can barely control or understand themselves at such an impressionable young age.

 

[2020hindsight]

18-20 year olds should never have been given the vote (Labour again), they still in psycholigical and physiological development and can barely control or understand themselves at such an impressionable young age.

ok kids
"sit!"
"stay" lol

(sorry hangseng - couldn't resist )

seem to recall a slave girl (back in the South) could get her freedom if she had 5 kids by the time she was 20 years old - something similar to Aus these days

 

[mark70920]

"When you have absolutely screwed over young people as much as the Libs have?"

Yes, why would they want to have a strong robust economy with the lowest unemployment ever? Much better what Labour brought in, dole for school leavers, higher social security payments and many more such disincentives to work.

18-20 year olds should never have been given the vote (Labour again), they still in psycholigical and physiological development and can barely control or understand themselves at such an impressionable young age.

If your old enough to go to war , you deserve a vote. Die for your country but have no say in who runs it. Sounds like a dictatorship.

 

[chops_a_must]

"When you have absolutely screwed over young people as much as the Libs have?"

Yes, why would they want to have a strong robust economy with the lowest unemployment ever? Much better what Labour brought in, dole for school leavers, higher social security payments and many more such disincentives to work.

18-20 year olds should never have been given the vote (Labour again), they still in psycholigical and physiological development and can barely control or understand themselves at such an impressionable young age.

What a foolish thing to say.

I've done political work since I was 16, and have had to see people vote for things that are directly going to disadvantage me, without me having a say. Why shouldn't people be given a say about their education when they are actually going through it?

I've said numerous times, and given evidence, that higher learning in this country has been trashed.

Young people don't really care as much about economics as old fogies. Especially when it is so short sighted. At the moment, youth are worrying about what their world is going to be like in 30-40 years time. And right now, their futures have been mortgaged by people that wont be around at that time...

P.S. and no, unemployment is not at all time record lows.

 

[numbercruncher]

"
18-20 year olds should never have been given the vote (Labour again), they still in psycholigical and physiological development and can barely control or understand themselves at such an impressionable young age.

Whoa, I think you maybe the exact reason i voted against the Costello clan.

Maybe we could apply that logic to other age groups or ethnic groups or geographic locations or education levels or whatever ..... scary ....

 

[Gundini]

Not to be a bearer of Good or Bad news as you all see it but:

Exit poll conducted by News says Labor are leading the race.

This is a poll from readers after they voted today....

And Howard to lose his seat, which is a bit sad, but not over yet!

http://www.news.com.au/

 

[hangseng]

Whoa, I think you maybe the exact reason i voted against the Costello clan.

Maybe we could apply that logic to other age groups or ethnic groups or geographic locations or education levels or whatever ..... scary ....

I was 17 and a 2nd year apprentice when the decision to bring this in was made. Myself and all my friends recall this as party time for those around us who chose not to work, rather seeing the dole as a 'free ride' and free ride they did. The social reformists all saw it as being marvellous, the thinking saw this as giving the vote to young radicals out to save and change the world. A world they knew little of.

I am now 51 and see how ridiculous it was giving the vote to people this young.

 

[chops_a_must]

I was 17 and a 2nd year apprentice when the decision to bring this in was made. Myself and all my friends recall this as party time for those around us who chose not to work, rather seeing the dole as a 'free ride' and free ride they did. The social reformists all saw it as being marvellous, the thinking saw this as giving the vote to young radicals out to save and change the world. A world they knew little of.

I am now 51 and see how ridiculous it was giving the vote to people this young.

Everyone over the age of 65 should not have the right to vote, given the increased risks of senility, early onset dimentia and parkinsons. This age could even be lowered because some people as young as 50 already suffer from these symptoms, albeit unrecognised to themselves and as yet, undiagnosed.

 

[2020hindsight]

Everyone over the age of 65 should not have the right to vote, given the increased risks of senility, early onset dimentia and parkinsons. This age could even be lowered because some people as young as 50 already suffer from these symptoms, albeit unrecognised to themselves and as yet, undiagnosed.

chops I've three things to say ...
1. you youngsters keep repeating yourselves!!
2. you shouldn't insult your seniors like that , and
3. you keep repeating yourself!! !