Ben Cousins - what action should the AFL take?

[UMike]

Honestly. If Ben was a musician or actor he be congratulated.

 

[kgee]

Honestly. If Ben was a musician or actor he be congratulated.

With musicians drugs are synonymous with making great music
Actors, well I have little respect for them anyway
Sports greats well ...I don't know just seems wrong

 

[2020hindsight]

With musicians drugs are synonymous with making great music
Actors, well I have little respect for them anyway
Sports greats well ...I don't know just seems wrong

kgee
are you suggesting ( ) that Jimmy Hendrix would have been "half the man" without his "friends"?

 

[kgee]

kgee
are you suggesting ( ) that Jimmy Hendrix would have been "half the man" without his "friends"?

Yep him the beatles and a whole host of others

 

[2020hindsight]

Ben - With A Little Help From My Friends
The Beatles «[L]ucy in the ky with [D]iamonds»

 

[chops_a_must]

Have to beg to differ there.. Short term use may give the impression of elevated stamina. A person who's just snorted a line of whizz might have a mind running in overdrive, but their clarity of thought?

How many people would be performance enhanced after coming down from an amphetamine buzz for the last 24 hours or more without sleep...?

It's the weight issue. If you can stay at your playing weight through injury or during the off season, it is a massive advantage.

In 1999... or 2000 I think, the national speedway sidecar championships were declared null and void because the top 5 pairs tested positive to amphetamines. These guys were hardly professionals... so what's the difference?

 

[hangseng]

It's the weight issue. If you can stay at your playing weight through injury or during the off season, it is a massive advantage.

In 1999... or 2000 I think, the national speedway sidecar championships were declared null and void because the top 5 pairs tested positive to amphetamines. These guys were hardly professionals... so what's the difference?

Give it up chops, you are outside your weight range at present and are talking complete nonsense based on ignorance.

Must be burning you that you have been proven completely wrong following your unfounded outbursts on this thread without any regard for sensitivities or justice.

 

[chops_a_must]

Give it up chops, you are outside your weight range at present and are talking complete nonsense based on ignorance.

Must be burning you that you have been proven completely wrong following your unfounded outbursts on this thread without any regard for sensitivities or justice.

Ok Hangseng. Please tell me on the ASADA list of banned substances, where cocaine and amphetamines are allowed.

Admission of taking substances is as good as a positive test. Ask Marion Jones or Ben Johnson.

 

[kgee]

It's the weight issue. If you can stay at your playing weight through injury or during the off season, it is a massive advantage.

In that case maybe Ben could use Shane Warnes excuse and tell everyone his mum gave him the drugs cause he was looking a little fat

 

[patto190366]

Hee-hee....lovin' it!!! Thanks Hang-seng....I'm not as articulate as you
and the others but try to get the message across....
We are all human...except for Chops and his mates ...some of
us have genuine feelings, compassion and a would like to help a fellow human!!!
Chops...duromine is supposed to help with weight loss - might keep
you up all night ask you Doc!!!

 

[chops_a_must]

We are all human...except for Chops and his mates ...some of
us have genuine feelings, compassion and a would like to help a fellow human!!!
Chops...duromine is supposed to help with weight loss - might keep
you up all night ask you Doc!!!

No, I just object to someone... I don't know... someone like a client of mine, who runs A qualifying times, who has to work part-time and supplement their career with centrelink, having to tell drug officials 3 months in advance where they will be for every minute of every day; when someone like Bender (who doesn't have to do this), flouts the rules, laughs and gets away scott free.

In just about any other sport, he would be convicted as a drug cheat. It's as simple as that.

Duromine is an amphetamine.

 

[patto190366]

Just trying to help...I know what it is!
Other amphetamines....ritalin, dexies....can help with ADHD
chronic fatigue...and of course they are prescribed also
as a diet suppressant....All are drugs and taken by thousands
of people every day....
These people manage themselves very well most of the time,
there are others that are manic, depressed, schitzo that are
prescribed "drugs" also....maybe you and I will need them one day!!!!
Have a nice day...Reductil....another weight loss tool

 

[Julia]

Just trying to help...I know what it is!
Other amphetamines....ritalin, dexies....can help with ADHD
chronic fatigue...and of course they are prescribed also
as a diet suppressant....All are drugs and taken by thousands
of people every day....
These people manage themselves very well most of the time,
there are others that are manic, depressed, schitzo that are
prescribed "drugs" also....maybe you and I will need them one day!!!!
Have a nice day...Reductil....another weight loss tool

It is entirely inappropriate to compare a schizophrenic who is taking prescribed anti-psychotic medication with someone using amphetamines, whether for fun (?) or to reduce appetite.

I doubt whether too many doctors are prescribing amphetamines for weight loss these days.

 

[kgee]

It is entirely inappropriate to compare a schizophrenic who is taking prescribed anti-psychotic medication with someone using amphetamines, whether for fun (?) or to reduce appetite.

I doubt whether too many doctors are prescribing amphetamines for weight loss these days.

I'm ignorant; what do doctors prescibe for weight loss....just curious because I referred to Shane Warnes incident with weight loss drugs...so do doctors prescribe drugs for weight loss that aren't used as recreational drugs or banned by sporting agencies?
I only say that because like yourself(???) I see dieting drugs as a rule are also used as recreational drugs

 

[patto190366]

Many doctors prescribe duromine for weight loss or just to stay slim....Fact!
Duromine is also used by many for work - eg truckies, uni students, night-clubers etc. etc. to stay awake and the "doof" "doof" party goers
Any stimulant will help with wieght loss as it "keeps you going"...can't start the day with out a cup of coffee...ooooohhhh yes I'm very dependent!!! And chocolate....another addictive thing that tells my brain that it feel good!!
There are many varying degrees of schizophrenia...why is it inappropriate Julia
- you don't know Ben -or his medical history - he may be suffering from a mental illness that is something I don't know but I do not judge him!!! I
applaud him for his honesty....I wish him well and I wish him the best

 

[hangseng]

Many doctors prescribe duromine for weight loss or just to stay slim....Fact!
Duromine is also used by many for work - eg truckies, uni students, night-clubers etc. etc. to stay awake and the "doof" "doof" party goers
Any stimulant will help with wieght loss as it "keeps you going"...can't start the day with out a cup of coffee...ooooohhhh yes I'm very dependent!!! And chocolate....another addictive thing that tells my brain that it feel good!!
There are many varying degrees of schizophrenia...why is it inappropriate Julia
- you don't know Ben -or his medical history - he may be suffering from a mental illness that is something I don't know but I do not judge him!!! I
applaud him for his honesty....I wish him well and I wish him the best

Patto, you don't know how very close you are to the real truth of this. So very close in every point

One day the facts will come out and put to rest the outright lies and innuendo.

 

[2020hindsight]

just to clarify something
I have no problem with speculation, (along the lines of "where there's smoke there's possibly fire" etc) - just as long as it is labelled as such.
But I find the "poll" aspect a bit premature (that's all).

on such matters - If a policeman told me Cousins did something today , and it is Saturday, I'd go buy a newspaper to doublecheck the date for starters.

 

[hangseng]

just to clarify something
I have no problem with speculation, (along the lines of "where there's smoke there's possibly fire" etc) - just as long as it is labelled as such.
But I find the "poll" aspect a bit premature (that's all).

on such matters - If a policeman told me Cousins did something today , and it is Saturday, I'd go buy a newspaper to doublecheck the date for starters.

Not only "premature" but completely biassed and void of fact to support the bias. Pure speculative rubbish, based on subjective views and journalistic hype completely void of factual evidence. As the saying goes journo's never let the truth get in the way of a good story (to sell papers).

As Tom Percy has recently stated "if I was Ben I would be looking at my (legal) options with the WCE"

 

[Julia]

I'm ignorant; what do doctors prescibe for weight loss....just curious because I referred to Shane Warnes incident with weight loss drugs...so do doctors prescribe drugs for weight loss that aren't used as recreational drugs or banned by sporting agencies?
I only say that because like yourself(???) I see dieting drugs as a rule are also used as recreational drugs

Kgee, in Shane Warne's case, he used a diuretic which is simply a drug which excretes fluid from the body. Pretty silly in his case as with level of exercise he could quickly dehydrate.

No connection with Duramine which in addition to being a stimulant and presumably therefore encouraging physical activity is an appetite suppressant so people simply have less inclination to eat and therefore lose weight.

Again, absolutely no connection with a clinically prescribed anti-psychotic agent for someone who is schizophrenic.

 

[2020hindsight]

Not only "premature" but completely biassed and void of fact to support the bias. Pure speculative rubbish, based on subjective views ....completely void of factual evidence.

well the police said a lot of speculative rubbish as well