wayneL
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The Froggies just pulled a rabbit out of a hat and done handed the All Blacks a woppin'. Tough luck Kiwis.
2007 Rugby World Cup
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oo-er missis! :crap:
what a shocker today has been for Australasian rugby - maybe now the All Blacks will learn not to throw marginal passes in critical matches. should've closed that one out when 13-0 up, obviously they're not the great team everyone thought they were
thank gawd for dual nationality! c'mon England
what a shocker today has been for Australasian rugby - maybe now the All Blacks will learn not to throw marginal passes in critical matches. should've closed that one out when 13-0 up, obviously they're not the great team everyone thought they were
thank gawd for dual nationality! c'mon England
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I was expecting to be cheering the All Blacks in the semi, not England.
Nice to be able to support two teams
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Perhaps if the All Blacks had spent the last 4 years concentrating more on rugby rather than their modelling contracts, hair styles, make-up and beating people up in bars throughout NZ they might have done a little better today against the French? The last time I saw them was a couple of months ago while transitting through Auckland airport. I could not believe the cockyness and arrogance that came from them as a group.
Every Rugby World Cup New Zealand is ending up further down the list; I wonder when people will realise that NZ rugby is not going in the right direction.
Viva Le France !
Every Rugby World Cup New Zealand is ending up further down the list; I wonder when people will realise that NZ rugby is not going in the right direction.
Viva Le France !
Bring back Matt Burke for penalties...
Bring back Nick Farr-Jones at half...
AND John Eales for courage and smarts in the forwards.
Gregan needs to feed the ball in the scrum instead of whining like a 5 yo for free kicks. Put it in, get it out, let the backs run some moves. Same with the rucks, forwards were tired, spin it out wide.
And whoever decided drew mitchell should start on the bench was an idiot.
Matt Giteou for half, always fast ball for the backs, defence never gets set.
Guy I feel sorry for is Larkin, great career, great fly. Will be missed.
Bring back Nick Farr-Jones at half...
AND John Eales for courage and smarts in the forwards.
Gregan needs to feed the ball in the scrum instead of whining like a 5 yo for free kicks. Put it in, get it out, let the backs run some moves. Same with the rucks, forwards were tired, spin it out wide.
And whoever decided drew mitchell should start on the bench was an idiot.
Matt Giteou for half, always fast ball for the backs, defence never gets set.
Guy I feel sorry for is Larkin, great career, great fly. Will be missed.
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cmon ???? Fiji!!
or Argentina !! (maybe)
or Argentina !! (maybe
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broadway - you see Larkham after the game? - on the sideline - in tears poor buga
Would he have done better than Barnes?
Would we have avenged 2003 and beaten the boot of J Wilkinson? (all their points as usual)
Would we have gone on to be world champs - except for that Stephen Larkham knee?
Sorry folks - you'll have to go to your graves wondering on that one
PS I still have a conspiracy theory that one of the Balmy Army marqueraded as a French doctor - snuck into the operating room - and knobbled him - probably threw in a handful of mad bull diisease - what they're good at after all
ps just joking -
ps (I think)
this from Fox one week ago ...
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didn't see the NZ / French game -
but I think I noticed Carter was on the sidelines when the whistle blew??
ava good one m8 -
PS my last goal in life is to live long enough to see 2003 avenged - even if it takes 30 years -
and then another 30 years to see last night avenged as well
Must agree with you, Broadway.
But ARU must look to the future now and concentrate on forward-looking points like three of those above. Our tacticians failed. If they were in business the company would go to the wall. The man who needs to be emulated in my opinion is Rod McQueen. Where is he right now?
(thanks to Wiki.):
One of MacQueen's first major coaching positions was at the Waratahs, where he was present from 1991 to 1992. In 1992, he also acted as a selector for the Australian team. He went on to coach the Australian XV in 1995 and again acted as an Australian selector during 1994-95. Following the inception of Super 12, MacQueen became the coach of the ACT Brumbies.
MacQueen was appointed the head coach of the Wallabies in September 1997, and would coach them until 2001. He led the Wallabies to victory at the 1999 Rugby World Cup in Wales, where they defeated France in the final, becoming the first nation to ever win the World Cup twice. The following year Australia won the Tri Nations Series for the first time ever.
He retired from the game after guiding the Wallabies to a famous victory over the highly rated 2001 Lions side captained by Martin Johnson. He finished his career as the Australian coach with a test match winning record of just below 80%.[1] In 2004 he was awarded the Joe French Award, which recognises outstanding service to the Australian Rugby Union.
Look forward to the remaining games...dare I say who I'll barrack for this time?
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at least when the poms beat us, we only had "sporting" matters to settle -
not like the score the Kiwis have (had?) to settle with the French -
Rainbow Warrior wasn't blown up in Sydney Harbour for instance ..
not like the score the Kiwis have (had?) to settle with the French -
Rainbow Warrior wasn't blown up in Sydney Harbour for instance ..
I think maybe both Australia and NZ took there respective games to lightly, judging by comment from particularly the Australian camp during the week they expected to walk through to the semis, they also seemed to have very little respect for there opponents and some comments by various wallabies about hating the English must have been a tonic to the English coaching staff preparing there players, also thought some of those comments very childish and from a team getting way to arrogant for there own good, there has always been strong rivalry between Australia and England in any sporting arena but hatred is the stuff of evil, the players making those comments should hang there heads in shame.
Australia deserved what they got, beaten by a team who had respect for there opponents and were up for giving 100%.
Australia deserved what they got, beaten by a team who had respect for there opponents and were up for giving 100%.
Well folks what a shocker
What happened to percentage rugby. Trying to kick across the field to a supposedly free man when you are in your own 22 is just dumb rugby .
They took the game to lightly and were thinking about the next game and not the one they were playing . The shot of Daniel carter in the stands after he had come off . Man . He was close to tears and the game still had 20 minutes to run . I then knew that we weren't going to get up for a win .
There were a couple of shockers from the ref but the fault must lay at the players feet .
We failed to change our game plan and the french had great defence around the ruck area .
Then why did we have what are argualby the two most potent wings standing out doing nothing . Hardly heard of Muliana all game and the same with sivivatu .
The worst thing was all I could hear ringing in my ears was the call from george greghan , FOUR MORE YEARS
CHEERS MARTIN
What happened to percentage rugby. Trying to kick across the field to a supposedly free man when you are in your own 22 is just dumb rugby .
They took the game to lightly and were thinking about the next game and not the one they were playing . The shot of Daniel carter in the stands after he had come off . Man . He was close to tears and the game still had 20 minutes to run . I then knew that we weren't going to get up for a win .
There were a couple of shockers from the ref but the fault must lay at the players feet .
We failed to change our game plan and the french had great defence around the ruck area .
Then why did we have what are argualby the two most potent wings standing out doing nothing . Hardly heard of Muliana all game and the same with sivivatu .
The worst thing was all I could hear ringing in my ears was the call from george greghan , FOUR MORE YEARS
CHEERS MARTIN
who to go for?
never the english. fiji and argy wont get far, south africans too arrogant. leaves les blues. i used to hate the french, but now i love em. love the culture, passion, food, politics (who can top the revolution), and their footy.
frogs for me.
we have 4 yrs to find a 120 kilo, hard as nails loose head.
we have 4 yrs to find an in centre to replace gits who will make an awesome 9.
very hard to play without a rock solid scrum. dunning got worked from the outset.
gregan was terrible, but the sad thing is that he has been terrible for 2 yrs.
i would give my left nut to be at the france v england semi.
france to beat SA by 2 on the 20th.
(commiserations kiwis.)
never the english. fiji and argy wont get far, south africans too arrogant. leaves les blues. i used to hate the french, but now i love em. love the culture, passion, food, politics (who can top the revolution), and their footy.
frogs for me.
we have 4 yrs to find a 120 kilo, hard as nails loose head.
we have 4 yrs to find an in centre to replace gits who will make an awesome 9.
very hard to play without a rock solid scrum. dunning got worked from the outset.
gregan was terrible, but the sad thing is that he has been terrible for 2 yrs.
i would give my left nut to be at the france v england semi.
france to beat SA by 2 on the 20th.
(commiserations kiwis.)
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I've got a soft spot for the froggies too on the same basis. And I just love their "**** you, I'm French attitude". Watch them melt though, if you stammer out some very bad French instead of speaking English. (when in France that is)
I'm for England, France next, and I hope one or the other gives the 'Boks a woppin'!!
What about the Scots?
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Note that Argentina and England are equal third
- and that is BEFORE Argentina get through the "quarter final filter" (oops)
Are they saying whoever plays SAfrica (in finals or whenever) will lose (??)
New Zealand OUT (prev 1.72) (prev 1.58)
South Africa 1.90 (prev 3.50) (prev 6.00)
Australia OUT ( prev 8.00) (prev 8.50)
France 2.75 (prev 13.00) (prev 9.00)
Argentina 8.00 (prev 17.00) (prev 26.00)
England 8.00 (prev 51.00) (prev 29.00)
Scotland 101 (prev 126.00) (prev 251.00)
Fiji 201 (prev 501.00) (prev 1001.00)
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Wasn't that a lucky escape for South Africa.
15 minutes to go and the Fijians should have crossed over for the try on the corner but for the brilliance of the winger's tackle on the second rower.
If they had scored that try, Fiji would have taken the lead and powered home. South Africa looked beat psychologically as the Fijians were carving up at will.
It would have been too funny if the Wallabies, All Blacks and Springboks all exited at the quaterfinals.
After the first round of the world cup I had picked France to win the tournament even though it was based on my judgement in their loss against Argentina. I saw enough that they were very well prepared, disciplined and very strong in areas not traditionally their strong points eg line outs and break down. I think stage fright and concentrating on the non traditional aspects of their game at the cost of sacrificing their flair left them with unimaginative rugby and they couldn't respond to Argentina's pressure.
Things had changed since then and more of their flair has been showing through in the other games. Coupled with their new strengths and flair, I am tipping to see them improve week after week.
Even last week I was saying that France will beat the All Blacks. Everyone thought I was crazy. The All Blacks play the game at a faster pace then everyone else but this French team is very well prepared and could play at the same pace. They have a powerful scrum and lineout and their work at the breakdown is sound. The game could have gone either way but their self belief and flair got them through. The All Blacks could have won but didn't have the leadership to change tactics and appeared very one dimensional.
South Africa looked very ordinary today and which ever team they have next week won't have the weakness the Fijians had ie their scrum. They look very beatable so who ever wins between Argentina and Scotland next week will have a good chance of beating them.
One thing that have shown through this world cup is that Professionalism seems to be helping the smaller countries, especially the Island nations of Tonga, Samoa and Fiji. Their domestic players are all playing overseas and if they manage to stem the flow of their best talent at high school level into New Zealand, the next world cup could see a bigger improvement.
It will make everything more interesting next time round.
15 minutes to go and the Fijians should have crossed over for the try on the corner but for the brilliance of the winger's tackle on the second rower.
If they had scored that try, Fiji would have taken the lead and powered home. South Africa looked beat psychologically as the Fijians were carving up at will.
It would have been too funny if the Wallabies, All Blacks and Springboks all exited at the quaterfinals.
After the first round of the world cup I had picked France to win the tournament even though it was based on my judgement in their loss against Argentina. I saw enough that they were very well prepared, disciplined and very strong in areas not traditionally their strong points eg line outs and break down. I think stage fright and concentrating on the non traditional aspects of their game at the cost of sacrificing their flair left them with unimaginative rugby and they couldn't respond to Argentina's pressure.
Things had changed since then and more of their flair has been showing through in the other games. Coupled with their new strengths and flair, I am tipping to see them improve week after week.
Even last week I was saying that France will beat the All Blacks. Everyone thought I was crazy. The All Blacks play the game at a faster pace then everyone else but this French team is very well prepared and could play at the same pace. They have a powerful scrum and lineout and their work at the breakdown is sound. The game could have gone either way but their self belief and flair got them through. The All Blacks could have won but didn't have the leadership to change tactics and appeared very one dimensional.
South Africa looked very ordinary today and which ever team they have next week won't have the weakness the Fijians had ie their scrum. They look very beatable so who ever wins between Argentina and Scotland next week will have a good chance of beating them.
One thing that have shown through this world cup is that Professionalism seems to be helping the smaller countries, especially the Island nations of Tonga, Samoa and Fiji. Their domestic players are all playing overseas and if they manage to stem the flow of their best talent at high school level into New Zealand, the next world cup could see a bigger improvement.
It will make everything more interesting next time round.
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I preferred it years ago when the All Blacks were made up of farmers - at least they won their games back then. If you go back 25 years there was no "re-conditioning", no exclusive spa getaways, no $1000 a night hotel rooms for them, but like I said, they won their games.
The feminisation of New Zealand is complete!
Heres a txt joke thats doing the rounds in NZ:
Have you heard about the new All Black bra?
All the support in the world but no cup.
The feminisation of New Zealand is complete!
Heres a txt joke thats doing the rounds in NZ:
Have you heard about the new All Black bra?
All the support in the world but no cup.