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Edwood said:
great book this one - anyone here read it?
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m8 - got to the first page
decided it was written by some descendant of Lord Nelson
with his telescope on his blind bludy eye ..
and couldn't be bothered going on ... !~!

(nope - haven't read it ;) - but I saw it :eek:
we're gonna get our revenge you realise - when? next Sat 6th Oct to be exact)
 
Edwood said:
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hey edwood here's a joke for you ..

A guy goes into a flag shop and asks for a green union jack. The shop assistant is forced to explain that you only get union jack flags in red white and blue. The man considers this, then says, "I'll have a blue one then." :)

PS you're not a relative of edwood woodwood by any chance , are you?
 
lol

its no wonder they won tho, look at how much bigger Martin Jonson is than everyone else! :)

whatever the outcome this weekend, if the football team is anything to go by rugby fans will be happy to reminisce for the next 40 years. England will get up for it tho, should be a good match!
 
Edwood said:
its no wonder they won tho, look at how much bigger Martin Jonson is than everyone else! :)
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trubel withpoms - no sense of perspective ;)

Edwood said:
whatever the outcome this weekend, if the football team is anything to go by rugby fans will be happy to reminisce for the next 40 years. England will get up for it tho, should be a good match!
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we agree on that at least :D
 
Edwood , couple of extracts from poetry thread m8 - written after the last clash of the titans..

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=83506&highlight=thumping#post83506
here's one written before the Wallabies played the Poms in the last world cup - and more generally about Aus-Pom rivalry

PREPARE FOR A THUMPING GOOD END

It’s the land of the convict in rattling chains,
And the land of his jackbooted jailer,
As to which was the less corrupt remains
A mystery for even the bailer,
It’s the land of a people who let go the reins,
And the cheers for a wild Peter Lalor,
And his oath of allegiance if Destiny deigns,
And his blistered spade-hands for loud hailer.

“Eureka!” they shouted, “Eureka!” the yell,
With a new-found emboldened erectness,
To Hell with the law cos the lawmen smell,
To Hell with politic correctness,
We’re here till they ring out our dying bell,
So bugger it lads, go for broke,
And if they imprison us just go and tell em
The whole thing was just a huge joke.
......

It’s the land of a youth so privileged and free,
And the small percentage who know it,
And the football uncouth, and the Wishing Tree,
And the time to nurture and grow it,
And our roots may be planted with English hoes,
But you wanna know something, my friend?
If the Wallabies take on the English Rose
Prepare for a thumping good end. :)
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https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=200177&highlight=devon#post200177
TEAM COLOURS

There's a green that you find on a Wallaby’s shirt,
With it's various faded, and various dirt,
-And the overlaid gold of the wattle tree,
-And “Australia Fair” sung almost in key,
-And the mem-ries flow back to my wonky knee,
-(And the barroom throws flack at the wonky TV)
And my senses on special alert !!
...
But I doubt a non-Aussie ' d be able to see
The passion to what I referred.

And the same thing happens for English teams,
When the red rose blooms and they dream their dreams,
-And no quarters asked and no quarters given,
-And the teams and the fans find their “reason for livin”
-When the six backs line up in seventh Heaven,
-(and the six packs line up from Dover and Devon)
And Life is much more than it seems.
.....
And the flags are hoisted like madmen – Driven to
Swinging sweet chariot screams.
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2020hindsight said:
Ripper !! :)
New Zealand 1.58
South Africa 6.00
Australia 8.50
France 9.00

Ireland 19.00
Argentina 26.00
England 29.00
Wales 81.00

Scotland 251.00
Italy 251.00
Samoa 1001.00
Fiji 1001.00

Canada 2501.00
Tonga 2501.00
USA 2501.00
Romania 2501.00

Portugal 5001.00
Japan 5001.00
Georgia 5001.00
Namibia 5001.00

PS NO WAY should Sth Africa be so far behind Allblacks in the odds ( imho) - but ... just guessin as usual lol.
quetion is, when they (SAfr) sent their second team across to the trinations (Aus + NZ) recently - and rested their best - was it a wise thing to do? - or are they now not match ready. ?
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http://www.sportingbet.com.au/uipub/sport.aspx?l1id=4&l2id=196621

New Zealand 1.72 (prev 1.58)
South Africa 3.50 (prev 6.00)
Australia 8.00 (prev 8.50)
France 13.00 (prev 9.00)

Argentina 17.00 (prev 26.00)
England 51.00 (prev 29.00)
Scotland 126.00 (prev 251.00)
Fiji 501.00 (prev 1001.00)

Note that (all else being equal), NZ SHOULD have tightened ever so slightly in the betting because there are only 8 teams left - so when you delete the other 8, the odds should automatically tighten a bit.
But they've relaxed instead ;)
 

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sheesh this is ridiculous ! - assuming I'm reading it right
1. Winner NZ vs the Field :-

New Zealand 1.58
Any Other Nation 2.35

My money's on "AON"

2. Winner from Southern Hemishphere 1.13
Winner from Northern Hemishphere 5.75

My money's on Sth Hemispher I guess - but gee don't those odds tell you something about the tough boys from south of the equator
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wowo - I got it right so far (might as well post this as I got the League result so screwed up , lol)

Miscellaneous Odds have changed as follows:-

Winner NZ vs the Field :-

New Zealand 1.72 ( out from 1.58 )
Any Other Nation 2.10 (in from 2.35 )
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Winner from Southern Hemishphere 1.04 (in from 1.13)
Winner from Northern Hemishphere 10.00 (in from 5.75)
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All on track - steady as she goes ;)
We just have to beat sth africa - and/or all blacks etc etc - (as the draw dictates) ...
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oh yes lol and the poms lol. (sorry Elwood lol - almost forgot you there)
 
These ties are most dramatically celebrated in sport, so here are some recent moments to savour. At the Olympic Games in Sydney, Australia staged the greatest party the world has seen. Great Britain also had a great Games (11 golds), and Steve Redgrave, Cathy Freeman, Ian Thorpe and Fatso the Fat-Arsed Wombat will for ever be remembered together.

In 2003, England won the rugby union World Cup in Australia amid banter that has gone down in history. “Is that all you’ve got?” the Australian press asked over a picture of Jonny Wilkinson’s boot, and the Daily Mirror responded with the same caption and a picture of Kylie Minogue’s bum. {lol} Not hatred, no. Banter, good banter, the sort that should decorate every great sporting occasion.

In 2005, England played Australia at cricket in the greatest Test series played and England won it by a hair. On the last day, England supporters put up umbrellas, pleading for rain, while Australians removed their shirts and basked in nonexistent sun. The Australia team took the field in shades (What do you mean, bad light?) {lol} and the Barmy Army sang to Shane Warne: “Wish you were English.” Great day.

In 2006, the rematch of the Ashes, England suffered a shocking humiliation in Adelaide and the Australians felt horribly let down. They wanted to beat a good England team, they wanted a great contest, they wanted great sport. Instead, they got surrender. The mood was of sadness and disappointment, not gloating and hatred.

But let me talk about one of the greatest and most significant sporting occasions I have attended: England’s rugby union match against Ireland at Croke Park this year. The Irish have rather more cause to hate the English than the Australians, but here – on the site of the Bloody Sunday massacre – they played God Save The Queen and no one interrupted.

That’s because it no longer mattered. Instead, there was a thunderous game of rugby between two grown-up nations, two sporting rivals, and the home side won gloriously. The handful of protesters looked like what they were: soooo last century. They looked like bigots and they also looked pathetic. Someone said to me in a bar afterwards: “An end to one hundred years of s****.” The England-hating O’Neill is (a) pathetic, (b) a bigot and (c) locked in the past. If there has been anything like a hundred years of s**** between England and Australia, it is over now.

What we have instead is a great and continuing sporting rivalry, one with great banter and unquenchable commitment and just enough England victories to keep it interesting. Anyone who fails to recognise this has no business in Anglo-Australian sport. It’s too good to allow bloody fools to spoil it.
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lol
- top artucle mate
great build up for the weekend ;)
pleased to see that England and Ireland have moved on

whilst I unreservedly agree with the sentiment in the above extract, I'm not so sure I'd be calling the Burmese "the Irish of the East" - :eek: (top right corner) - but that must be someone else's comment - for a starter, Simon Barnes (sports editor) says he has nothing in common with Oliver Cromwell :2twocents
ahh I suppose any publicity that gets people thinking about the Burmese and their plight is good publicity -

and - more importantly
any humourous and well written articles about verbal "pommie bashing" and "okker bashing" leading into tomorrows game is also good (IMO lol )

PS getting way way off thread here, but I find no evidence in the literature that Oliver Cromwell had much of a sense of humour - too into statements like "how little you know me , that you think you can buy my values" - puritanical pric-eless person.

At least the poms' sense of humour has improved since they morphed from Roundheads to - ? whatever they are now. (football shaped heads ?? ) ;)
 
Edwood said:
I guess you all saw O'Neill's juvenile comments in the press earlier this week about hating the English. looked like an inferiority complex to me :)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/rugby/article2591969.ece
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hey edwood... when that article quotes Fry in that 70 year old reference , viz:-

“In all this Australian team there are barely one or two who would be accepted as public school men.” C. B. Fry, 1938
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was that before or after those famous public school "birch-to-the-bare-bum" incidents - ;)

- is that where the "Torie's Party Whip" got his name, lol? ;)

PS I didn't see O'Neills comments
PPS I must say those sheep-hugging Kiwis are good sports as well lol.
 
here's a part of it 2020. reckon O'Neill's still smarting after losing at home in 2003 - gee that must've been embarrassing!! either that or he wasn't born-to-rule ;)


"The flak is certainly flying. Traditionally, the verbal battle between England and Australia has had a humorous edge, but six days before their quarter- final in Marseilles, it has turned so distinctly unpleasant that it would be astonishing if the World Cup organisers sit back and allow it to continue.

It was less than a week ago that John O’Neill, the chief executive of the Australian Rugby Union, was quoted all over the rugby world for his view that, in Australian sport, “we all hate England”. This was excused in some Australian quarters as a quip that read badly on the page.

However, perhaps stung by the replies in British newspaper columns by Josh Lewsey and Austin Healey, O’Neill has come back even harder and it may be that the IRB deems him to have fallen foul of its code of conduct. “I stand by what I said,” O’Neill told The Daily Telegraph in Australia. “Whether it’s cricket, rugby league or rugby union, we do all hate England. All I’m doing is stating the bleeding obvious.

“No one likes England. If they want further proof, how do they think France won the right to host this World Cup? It’s simple. No one would vote for England and they were the only other country in the running. The only votes England could be assured of back then were their own. Sadly, this is all a by-product of their born-to-rule mentality. It’s been there for a long time now and othing has changed.”
 
Edwood
maybe not born to have a bit of fun anyway.
that's where the fans come in ;)

I really enjoyed the colour added by the Balmy Army in both cricket and rugby tours of Aus in the last few years -

there was one example where we turned up to counter their countless songs - and a handful of Aussies were reading the words from a page quickly distributed -

and they copped absolute derision from the Balmys .. along the lines ... " WHAT !! - only one bludy song then - and you have to read it then !! "

lol, colourful buggas , you have to admit.
 
its all PR. cheap talk.
key to the game is whether our front row can hold up the scrum. do that, and we win by 30.
 
ah ha thats classic! yes they do like to get into the spirit of it, it will be a fantastic atmosphere on Sunday morning, would love to be at the game!

c'mon En-ger-land!!! :)
 
Edwood - this one posted elsewhere - but thought you might like to be reminded lol
Billy Connolly - The National Anthem

Maybe THIS is why Aussies (and others) traditionally don't want you to win ?? ;)
the others nations don't want us to win !! - cos when we do it takes half an hour for the flag to get to the top of the bludy pole" lol
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