The Albanese government

[PZ99]

$10k to install pink batts

 

[PZ99]

This...

 

[farmerge]

This...

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She must be desperate.

 

[JohnDe]

anyone for another $275 payment for their electricity bill,

Albanese dodges on $275 power bill pledge

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese at the 2025 Australian of the Year Awards at the National Arboretum in Canberra. Picture: NewsWire / Martin Ollman

 

[sptrawler]

That's a long term solution but there is still a shortage of tradies to build housing for the current population, so we either train more here and give them a financial incentive to stay in the industry until they get established or bring in skilled workers from OS further adding to demand.

Or the Government gets back into building social housing and starts training tradespeople again, rather than outsourcing the responsibility to the private sector with bribes.
Sooner or later they are going to have to accept the responsibility for social infrastructure, that includes training apprentices, the private sector want productive workers, not argumentive kids that are 18 years old and are expected to survive on apprentice wages.
The Governments made this mess the Governments need to take ownership of it.

 

[SirRumpole]

Or the Government gets back into building social housing and starts training tradespeople again, rather than outsourcing the responsibility to the private sector with bribes.
Sooner or later they are going to have to accept the responsibility for social infrastructure, that includes training apprentices, the private sector want productive workers, not argumentive kids that are 18 years old and are expected to survive on apprentice wages.
The Governments made this mess the Governments need to take ownership of it.

Trouble is, social housing used to mean 'slums', but now is not just the very desperate that need social housing, its anyone with an income less than about $130K, so they have to go more upmarket, otherwise there will be a stigma attached to it .

It will need to be done in a different way, but the principle is the same.

 

[sptrawler]

Trouble is, social housing used to mean 'slums', but now is not just the very desperate that need social housing, its anyone with an income less than about $130K, so they have to go more upmarket, otherwise there will be a stigma attached to it .

It will need to be done in a different way, but the principle is the same.

Social housing is whatever the Govt decides to build, whether they build it it or pay a private company to build it, doesn't change the design.

The fact is the private sector don't want to train apprentices and the Government don't want to, so the $10k is really only about optics.

The reality is the appreticeship system is just another failure of Governments outsourcing their responsibilities.

AS with the electrical privatisation, we are just trying to find excuses for poor Government choices.

 

[mullokintyre]

Somebody posted a meme on ASF alluding to rats and sinking ships.
Its becoming more and more difficult to not associate that meme with the Albanese Government.
Another front Bench minister has announced their departure from politics at the next election.
Stephen Jones has joined Linda Burney and Brendan O'Connor in deciding not to recontest the next election due this year.
Has not really given the local branch members much notice to choose a replacement before Albanese announces the date, which must take place before 17th of May or a full senate election will be required.
These three will add to the already departed Bill Shorten who has had to support his meagre parliamentary pension with an 800k per yeat Vice Chancellors position at Canberra University.
Mick

 

[wayneL]

Why ?

Further:

 

[SirRumpole]

Somebody posted a meme on ASF alluding to rats and sinking ships.
Its becoming more and more difficult to not associate that meme with the Albanese Government.
Another front Bench minister has announced their departure from politics at the next election.
Stephen Jones has joined Linda Burney and Brendan O'Connor in deciding not to recontest the next election due this year.
Has not really given the local branch members much notice to choose a replacement before Albanese announces the date, which must take place before 17th of May or a full senate election will be required.
These three will add to the already departed Bill Shorten who has had to support his meagre parliamentary pension with an 800k per yeat Vice Chancellors position at Canberra University.
Mick

A few on the other side as well.

Birmingham, Fletcher, Frydenburg won't be back.

 

[sptrawler]

Further:

Yet another example of the media being proven wrong, they predicted a catastrophe, or maybe they were hoping for one so that the status quo could be maintained.

 

[mullokintyre]

A few on the other side as well.

Birmingham, Fletcher, Frydenburg won't be back.

Correct in Birmingham and Fletcher, but I am fairly certain that Frydenburg lost his seat at the previous election.
Mick

 

[SirRumpole]

but I am fairly certain that Frydenburg lost his seat at the previous election.

Yes he did but it looks like he won't recontest, so that's basically him gone from the Parliament.

 

[wayneL]

If one is truly a classical liberal as per the Menzian vision, why would anyone want anything to do with the current iteration of the Liberal Party?

Both the Labor and Liberal parties are slightly different versions of Social Democrats, both with a caustic authoritarian impulse, and are ipso facto WEF economic fascists.

Meanwhile, Australians are sleepwalking into a perverted binary tribalism which serves nobody except multinational companies and an overpaid bureaucracy, as the productive cohort of the economy is absolutely screwed, non-consensually and without lube.

Part of the problem is the profound ignorance of our preferential voting system whereby people imagine that the their vote is wasted if they vote for a minor party at 1. Therefore, they imagine they must vote for being screwed by the reds or the blues, never understanding there are other alternatives for their primary vote.

Until people understand this en masse we are truly f*****.

 

[SirRumpole]

If one is truly a classical liberal as per the Menzian vision, why would anyone want anything to do with the current iteration of the Liberal Party?

Both the Labor and Liberal parties are slightly different versions of Social Democrats, both with a caustic authoritarian impulse, and are ipso facto WEF economic fascists.

Meanwhile, Australians are sleepwalking into a perverted binary tribalism which serves nobody except multinational companies and an overpaid bureaucracy, as the productive cohort of the economy is absolutely screwed, non-consensually and without lube.

Part of the problem is the profound ignorance of our preferential voting system whereby people imagine that the their vote is wasted if they vote for a minor party at 1. Therefore, they imagine they must vote for being screwed by the reds or the blues, never understanding there are other alternatives for their primary vote.

Until people understand this en masse we are truly f*****.

Well, both parties are controlled by minority interests, capital controls the LNP and unions control the ALP. Both capital and Labor are just inputs into production of goods and services to the masses (consumers), who have no effective representation at all.

Although most consumers are labour (ie employees), unions speak for less of them these days. Unions don't represent independent tradies, the self employed or retirees who are becoming more important as consumers as the population ages.

So until a party comes along that acts for consumers, who are basically everyone, we will continue to be governed by minority interests.

And wayne, while I respect the social views of the Libertarians, I think that their laissez faire economic outlook just opens the way for the capitalists to screw the consumers even more, in the absence of necessary constraints on greed.

 

[wayneL]

Well, both parties are controlled by minority interests, capital controls the LNP and unions control the ALP. Both capital and Labor are just inputs into production of goods and services to the masses (consumers), who have no effective representation at all.

Although most consumers are labour (ie employees), unions speak for less of them these days. Unions don't represent independent tradies, the self employed or retirees who are becoming more important as consumers as the population ages.

So until a party comes along that acts for consumers, who are basically everyone, we will continue to be governed by minority interests.

And wayne, while I respect the social views of the Libertarians, I think that their laissez faire economic outlook just opens the way for the capitalists to screw the consumers even more, in the absence of necessary constraints on greed.

Javier Milei may prove you wrong on laissez faire, but I do agree with reasonable constraints based on the principle of summum bonum.

I am a subscriber to the principal of Millsian liberty, which states that we are all entitled to liberty so long is it as not impinge upon the liberty of others. This does necessitate some degree of regulation. There is a hierarchy of liberties.

 

[sptrawler]

FFS where's @Dona Ferentes when you need someone.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

"...
We have had enough of action, and of motion we,
Roll'd to starboard, roll'd to larboard, when the surge was seething free,
Where the wallowing monster spouted his foam-fountains in the sea.
Let us swear an oath, and keep it with an equal mind,
In the hollow Lotos-land to live and lie reclined
On the hills like Gods together, careless of mankind.
.... "

Alfred Lord Tennyson
The Lotos-eaters

 

[PZ99]

Bring on the Teals

 

[JohnDe]

Yes he did but it looks like he won't recontest, so that's basically him gone from the Parliament.

He lost his seat at the last election, of course he won’t be back in the Parliament.