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Would Trump know it's not him? I mean he signed a lot of stuff.
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Putin's 'tourist' accused of nerve agent attack turns out to be a highly decorated Russian intelligence officer
One of the men accused of poisoning a former Russian spy in England earlier this year has been identified as a high-ranking member of Russia’s intelligence service.
The UK in early September accused two Russian men, Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov, of attempting to assassinate Sergei Skripal with a military-grade nerve agent in Salisbury in March. UK Prime Minister Theresa May said the names were most likely aliases.
Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose government has long denied having any knowledge of the attack, initially claimed that the two men’s names “mean nothing to us,” then said that they were civilians.
Petrov and Boshirov also appeared on Russian TV to say they were visiting Salisbury as tourists.
But according to a Wednesday article by the investigative-journalism site Bellingcat, Boshirov is actually Col. Anatoliy Chepiga, a highly decorated officer with the GRU, Russia’s intelligence service.
Chepiga, 39, had been assigned the alter ego of Boshirov by 2010, Bellingcat said. This was the name used in his passport when he travelled to the UK earlier this year.
Bellingcat said it confirmed Chepiga’s identity after speaking to multiple sources familiar with Chepiga or the investigation.
The Russian newspaper Kommersant also cited Chepiga’s acquaintances in his home village, Berezovka, saying of Bellingcat’s findings, “That’s him … 100% of it.”
According to Bellingcat, throughout his career, Chepiga had been given multiple rewards for his services, including the title of Hero of the Russian Federation – the highest award in the state, typically given by the president to a handful of people in a secret ceremony, according to the BBC.
The award was confirmed by Chepiga’s military school, the Far Eastern Higher Military Command School.
It suggests Putin was aware of Chepiga’s identity, which would seem to disprove the Russian president’s claim that he didn’t know who Boshirov and Petrov were.
Bellingcat’s findings also cast doubt on Russia’s claims that Boshirov and Petrov were civilians and that the government had no knowledge of the Skripal attack.
The findings are also in line with the British government’s claim, citing security and intelligence agencies’ investigations, that Boshirov and Petrov were officers from Russia’s intelligence services.
May has also said that authorization for the attack “almost certainly” came from senior members of the Russian government.
Maria Zakharova, a spokeswoman for Russia’s foreign ministry, called Bellingcat’s findings “a new portion of fake news.”
Zakharova said on Facebook, according to a translation by Russia’s state-run Sputnik news agency, “There is no evidence, so they” – the UK – “continue the information campaign, the main task of which is to divert attention from the main question: ‘What happened in Salisbury?'”
The UK has issued international arrest warrants for the two men, London’s Metropolitan Police confirmed in a statement to Business Insider. However, Russia does not extradite its nationals.
Gavin Williamson, the UK’s defence secretary, appeared to confirm Bellingcat’s findings in a tweet on Wednesday night that he appears to have later deleted.
“The true identity of one of the Salisbury suspects has been revealed to be a Russian Colonel,” he wrote. “I want to thank all the people who are working so tirelessly on this case.”
A spokesman for the UK Ministry of Defence told Business Insider that Williamson’s tweet, which was posted on his constituency’s account, was unrelated to his role as defence secretary. Williamson’s constituency office did not immediately respond to Business Insider’s request for comment.
The British Prime Minister’s Office, Ministry of Defence, Foreign Office, and Metropolitan Police all declined to comment on Bellingcat’s findings.
The UK in early September accused two Russian men, Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov, of attempting to assassinate Sergei Skripal with a military-grade nerve agent in Salisbury in March. UK Prime Minister Theresa May said the names were most likely aliases.
Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose government has long denied having any knowledge of the attack, initially claimed that the two men’s names “mean nothing to us,” then said that they were civilians.
Petrov and Boshirov also appeared on Russian TV to say they were visiting Salisbury as tourists.
But according to a Wednesday article by the investigative-journalism site Bellingcat, Boshirov is actually Col. Anatoliy Chepiga, a highly decorated officer with the GRU, Russia’s intelligence service.
Chepiga, 39, had been assigned the alter ego of Boshirov by 2010, Bellingcat said. This was the name used in his passport when he travelled to the UK earlier this year.
Bellingcat said it confirmed Chepiga’s identity after speaking to multiple sources familiar with Chepiga or the investigation.
The Russian newspaper Kommersant also cited Chepiga’s acquaintances in his home village, Berezovka, saying of Bellingcat’s findings, “That’s him … 100% of it.”
According to Bellingcat, throughout his career, Chepiga had been given multiple rewards for his services, including the title of Hero of the Russian Federation – the highest award in the state, typically given by the president to a handful of people in a secret ceremony, according to the BBC.
The award was confirmed by Chepiga’s military school, the Far Eastern Higher Military Command School.
It suggests Putin was aware of Chepiga’s identity, which would seem to disprove the Russian president’s claim that he didn’t know who Boshirov and Petrov were.
Bellingcat’s findings also cast doubt on Russia’s claims that Boshirov and Petrov were civilians and that the government had no knowledge of the Skripal attack.
The findings are also in line with the British government’s claim, citing security and intelligence agencies’ investigations, that Boshirov and Petrov were officers from Russia’s intelligence services.
May has also said that authorization for the attack “almost certainly” came from senior members of the Russian government.
Maria Zakharova, a spokeswoman for Russia’s foreign ministry, called Bellingcat’s findings “a new portion of fake news.”
Zakharova said on Facebook, according to a translation by Russia’s state-run Sputnik news agency, “There is no evidence, so they” – the UK – “continue the information campaign, the main task of which is to divert attention from the main question: ‘What happened in Salisbury?'”
The UK has issued international arrest warrants for the two men, London’s Metropolitan Police confirmed in a statement to Business Insider. However, Russia does not extradite its nationals.
Gavin Williamson, the UK’s defence secretary, appeared to confirm Bellingcat’s findings in a tweet on Wednesday night that he appears to have later deleted.
“The true identity of one of the Salisbury suspects has been revealed to be a Russian Colonel,” he wrote. “I want to thank all the people who are working so tirelessly on this case.”
A spokesman for the UK Ministry of Defence told Business Insider that Williamson’s tweet, which was posted on his constituency’s account, was unrelated to his role as defence secretary. Williamson’s constituency office did not immediately respond to Business Insider’s request for comment.
The British Prime Minister’s Office, Ministry of Defence, Foreign Office, and Metropolitan Police all declined to comment on Bellingcat’s findings.
The Russian Ambassador in Holland was nonplussed by 'Belling the cats ' concoction, dismissing it as fabrication. Belling the cat's responce was to congratulate the geniuses at GUD HQ in using sequential passport numbers for the 'tourists' Petrov and Boshirov. It's been quiet from behind the dykes since.
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Russian model who trashed Putin on social media found dead in suitcase: report
Ex-boyfriend of Russian model Gretta Vedler who once called Vladimir Putin a "psychopath" confesses to killing and stuffing her body inside a suitcase.
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trust me .... we're all equals here.
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Not sure this deserves a thread of its own, so put it here... The Tucker Carlson interview with one V. Putin.
The politico-media establishment seem to have had some sort of mental breakdown over this so, thoughtit would be best if people would just listen to it themselves.
The politico-media establishment seem to have had some sort of mental breakdown over this so, thoughtit would be best if people would just listen to it themselves.
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What can I say?
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Saw Tucker Carlson got the sack. Also notice Russian State Television RT have offered him a job. Would be a good fit.
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You can say that "I'm not going to watch the video, I prefer Dem propaganda"?What can I say?
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Saw Tucker Carlson got the sack. Also notice Russian State Television RT have offered him a job. Would be a good fit.
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You going to vote for Putin ?
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Huh? What does that have to do with listening to an interview and employing some critical thinking regarding the same?You going to vote for Putin ?
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If you want to listen to a murderer go right ahead, why would anyone believe anything he says?
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I don't actually recall saying anyone should believe him. Can you point out where I did? I merely posted as an FYI and suddenly I'm a Putin apologist?
That is a profoundly stupid position you have taken.
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Well, you implied watching Putin is better than "Dem propaganda", so that implies that you think what Putin says has some merit.
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it's not binary, Wayne.
...and how does the "where's my spot with Zelenskii " argument sit?
to me it's the oxygen of publicity that need not bubble up. ,
...and how does the "where's my spot with Zelenskii " argument sit?
to me it's the oxygen of publicity that need not bubble up. ,
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Strawman argument, Horace.
Reaction even before the interview, from the democrats and even some republicans has been hysterical, and not in the humorous sense. Look at your own reaction above.
To be honest I haven't watched the interview yet apart from a few snippets but I fully intend to when I have a spare couple of hours.
I want to hear what Putin says and judge for myself whether it's BS or whether he has some sort of cogent argument for his actions which may not to be apparent to us in the West.
Equally I am looking at Tucker Carlson, I want to hear how he interviews Putin and judge for myself what his motives might be also.
I can't do that with programmed leftists screeching from the sidelines trying to tell me how I should think about it.
So yes I will be watching it hopefully later this evening. Equally I would love it if Carlson did a follow-up interview with Zelensky and hear what he has to say in response.
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I'm sure he will make his arguments seem cogent, but the reality is that a super power attacked a country that was no threat to them.
No excuses are justified.
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Putin said in an interview with Carlson that Vladimir Zelenskyy's father "fought with the Nazis." In fact, Alexander Zelenskyy was born in 1947, two years after the end of World War II.
just another jock, without his teleprompter
just another jock, without his teleprompter
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Exactly the sort of analysis that is required, which is my overall point.
Horace seems to be under the misapprehension that if we listen to this interview that we must therefore be interested in felating Putin.
That is as an asinine a viewpoint as I have ever heard in my whole life.
This will probably be one of the most analyzed interviews of all time; already there are dozens of articles across media sites dissecting various bits of the interview... Mostly with one or another propaganda slant.
I'm gonna repeat myself, probably be best for people to listen to it themselves rather than relying on those with one or another agenda... Unless those people don't trust their own intelligence?
