Donald Trump - Loud mouthed American Idiot

[SirRumpole]

Canada has two BIG problems. Rapidly encroaching totalitarianism, and a rapidly increasing population, and a haven of radical extremists.

The call has merit, but a bit early for general acceptance... and Pierre will probably kick Justin "Blackface" Castro's ridiculous communist @55 in the next election and "potentially" solve those problems.

Unless that happens, a wall is probably a great idea.

Maybe there are a lot of Canadians trying to get away from Trudeau.

 

[sptrawler]

Maybe there are a lot of Canadians trying to get away from Trudeau.

I'll let you know, I'm there in May, I just hope the missus gets over the travel bug, before we end up in the soup kitchen.

I get that you are only this age once and you may die soon, but I try and explain we actually might survive for some time.

 

[mullokintyre]

I'll let you know, I'm there in May, I just hope the missus gets over the travel bug, before we end up in the soup kitchen.

I get that you are only this age once and you may die soon, but I try and explain we actually might survive for some time.

nah, someone will send out a hit squad on ya.
Mick

 

[sptrawler]

nah, someone will send out a hit squad on ya.
Mick

That's proabaly true, it wouldn't be the first time in my life someone has told me they will knock my block off. Lol

 

[IFocus]

you don't hear Stalinist being thrown around as a smear.
I'm not the one comparing cnts to Hitler either

Calling the political opposites or anyone opposing their views vermin publically are going to get a Hitler label or equivalent.

Remember the anger at Clinton labeling the Republican deplorables how did that go?

In US politics I don't believe a president has ever done that before along with a lot of other negatives that Trump runs to get coverage, outrage and create further divisions.

Trump is an outlier running the line the election was stolen (the courts didn't think so) organising and inciting the riot / break in of the House along with any number of other false and dangerous moves undermining the US Republic.

Trump currently isn't running for re-election for the sake of the US but to serve his psychopathic personality and to save himself from the courts.

A Trump 2nd term is a very serious threat to the Republic not experienced certainly within my life time and I remember vividly the turmoil surrounding Nixon

Running the RWNJ arguments left / right Stalin verse's' Hitler doesn't change the above at best a poor diversion IMHO.

 

[Smurf1976]

A Trump 2nd term is a very serious threat to the Republic not experienced certainly within my life time and I remember vividly the turmoil surrounding Nixon

I think the big problem is the US and indeed the West generally has lost its way both practically and in terms of leadership.

Looking at history, we're in an environment where a "strong" leader is likely to emerge before too much longer with the only question being their nature.

Could be the benevolent dictator who sets society on the right course.

Could be a Hitler-like character who says all the right words then brings catastrophe.

I do think though we're going to see something come out of all this. I mean seriously, just look at the state of politics throughout the West. There's a vacuum of real leadership and that won't likely endure, someone will step into it.

 

[Smurf1976]

On the other hand, there is nothing particularly wrong with the US economy at the moment. Unemployment is 3.7%, inflation 3.2%.

The numbers look good as a whole but I suspect there's a huge divide within that.

Take out the rich and how are the middle and working classes going?

Can a young person without inherited wealth at least get themselves their own home, car and raise a family these days working a non-elite job?

Etc.

 

[SirRumpole]

The numbers look good as a whole but I suspect there's a huge divide within that.

Take out the rich and how are the middle and working classes going?

Can a young person without inherited wealth at least get themselves their own home, car and raise a family these days working a non-elite job?

Etc.

Could be those problems exist.

However I don't see a self centred arrogant multi-millionaire giving two hoots about those less fortunate than himself or wanting to make their lives any better.

 

[mullokintyre]

Could be those problems exist.

However I don't see a self centred arrogant multi-millionaire giving two hoots about those less fortunate than himself or wanting to make their lives any better.

Ya could be describing a lot people there Horace, and not just in America.
Mick

 

[SirRumpole]

Ya could be describing a lot people there Horace, and not just in America.
Mick

Yes indeed. Given the election process in the US the President is going to be very rich whoever gets elected, as to personality characteristics, people can make up their own minds.

 

[InsvestoBoy]

Can a young person without inherited wealth at least get themselves their own home, car and raise a family these days working a non-elite job?

Etc.

Much easier in the US than here, I would say.

Go on Zillow, look at any of the many big US cities like Denver and you can find a lovely 3br centrally located house for $500k USD. Much nicer builds I would say too than any $750k AUD house in Australia.

Second tier cities in the US are huge by Australian standards with a much lower cost of living for the things that matter. Population density provides efficiency of scale and consumer surplus https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/consumer_surplus.asp

 

[Smurf1976]

Much easier in the US than here, I would say.

Go on Zillow, look at any of the many big US cities like Denver and you can find a lovely 3br centrally located house for $500k USD. Much nicer builds I would say too than any $750k AUD house in Australia.

How does that look if we factor in wages?

A non-elite job that a random individual is likely to do, let's say a trade or a generic office administration role. Or something like basic labour or working behind a counter somewhere.

I could be wrong, I've never lived in the US, but the perception I get is of an underclass working for extremely low wages struggling to survive and they're looking for someone, anyone, who'll save them. Donald Trump enters the room......

 

[Smurf1976]

However I don't see a self centred arrogant multi-millionaire giving two hoots about those less fortunate than himself or wanting to make their lives any better.

A case of seeing the original problem not as something to be fixed but as a solution to another problem, that of getting elected to a position of power.

I can think of quite a few examples where that basic scenario applies. The classic tell tale sign being that even after those promising to fix it are elected, the problem's still there and the campaign starts up again the moment the other side is in power, because "their" side didn't actually fix it when they had the chance.

 

[InsvestoBoy]

How does that look if we factor in wages?

A non-elite job that a random individual is likely to do, let's say a trade or a generic office administration role. Or something like basic labour or working behind a counter somewhere.

Median household income is 75k USD.

I could be wrong, I've never lived in the US, but the perception I get is of an underclass working for extremely low wages struggling to survive and they're looking for someone, anyone, who'll save them. Donald Trump enters the room......

Electoral participation in the US is only 66%. Participation linearly increase as you segment by age, education and income. i.e. rich smart boomers vote the most and the underclass votes least or not at all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections

who's looking for Trump to save them?

 

[moXJO]

Calling the political opposites or anyone opposing their views vermin publically are going to get a Hitler label or equivalent.

Remember the anger at Clinton labeling the Republican deplorables how did that go?

In US politics I don't believe a president has ever done that before along with a lot of other negatives that Trump runs to get coverage, outrage and create further divisions.

Trump is an outlier running the line the election was stolen (the courts didn't think so) organising and inciting the riot / break in of the House along with any number of other false and dangerous moves undermining the US Republic.

Trump currently isn't running for re-election for the sake of the US but to serve his psychopathic personality and to save himself from the courts.

A Trump 2nd term is a very serious threat to the Republic not experienced certainly within my life time and I remember vividly the turmoil surrounding Nixon

Running the RWNJ arguments left / right Stalin verse's' Hitler doesn't change the above at best a poor diversion IMHO.

Pretty sure Trump doesn't hold the media narrative. All the stories were also bs. It's been fabricated by the democrats.
Do you honestly think they wouldn't come up with better charges if it were at all possible?

It's hive minded idiots being dumb and spewing even stupider conspiracies about Trump.

 

[farmerge]

Pretty sure Trump doesn't hold the media narrative. All the stories were also bs. It's been fabricated by the democrats.
Do you honestly think they wouldn't come up with better charges if it were at all possible?

It's hive minded idiots being dumb and spewing even stupider conspiracies about Trump.

Well if the votes that were cast last time around showed The trumpet has about half of the voting populus that voted behind him. Not sure which end of the spectrum they come from.

 

[mullokintyre]

Well if the votes that were cast last time around showed The trumpet has about half of the voting populus that voted behind him. Not sure which end of the spectrum they come from.

probably similar to the ones that vote National in OZ.
Mick

 

[moXJO]

Well if the votes that were cast last time around showed The trumpet has about half of the voting populus that voted behind him. Not sure which end of the spectrum they come from.

In my opinion Trump is a protest vote. He's a crook, but not an entrenched crook like the rest of the dems and Republicans.
He is the only one narcissistic enough to survive the onslaught of lawfare and media assault. Which we have seen since 2016.

For me it's about burning it all down.
It's gotten way to overgrown with corruption.
I could care less who it is. I think RFK is too soft an option right now.

 

[IFocus]

Pretty sure Trump doesn't hold the media narrative. All the stories were also bs. It's been fabricated by the democrats.
Do you honestly think they wouldn't come up with better charges if it were at all possible?

It's hive minded idiots being dumb and spewing even stupider conspiracies about Trump.

Pretty much all comes from what Trump says, he own words have put him in he position as far as the courts, go paying off pr0n stars confirms he is telling the truth.

 

[wayneL]

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