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sptrawler said:
Two wrongs don't make a right. ?
www.theguardian.com

Why are Democratic billionaires backing white candidates over better candidates of color? | Steve Phillips

With white billionaire friends like these, progressives and Democrats are likely to lose political power and also set back the cause of racial justice in this country
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
From the article:
The 2022 Democratic primaries have seen a surge of white billionaires, ostensibly Democrats, throwing their weight – and their money – around to try to boost the fortunes of hand-picked, under-qualified white men running against candidates of color. They are doing this despite the candidates of color often being more experienced and better suited to both win and govern in a period of fractious racial conflict where democracy itself is under ferocious attack. With white billionaire friends like these, progressives and Democrats are likely to lose political power and also set back the cause of racial justice in this country.
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No it's all wrong.
 
qldfrog said:
I truly believe the established science of climate change blaming CO2 will be seen in a 100 year in the same way as the established science of eugenism and craniometry were 100y ago.
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Common sense tells me that altering the composition of the earth's atmosphere is likely to cause some effect on something. Chance the input and there's going to be some change in output.

The detail, however, is far more complex and the one thing we know with certainty about the earth's climate is that we don't fully understand it.

The big problem is that what ought to be an area of scientific study and practical response has been hijacked for purely political purposes. As an example of that, take cars. The problem, if we accept as a given from here on for the purpose of this example that CO2 is a problem, is the CO2 emissions from the car's exhaust. That's the problem and so the fix requires that we stop those CO2 emissions by some means. How we do that, how we stop the CO2 being released, doesn't matter so long as it works and isn't causing some other serious problem in itself.

Trouble is however, more than a few won't accept any approach that doesn't involve simply getting rid of cars altogether as the means of doing it, suggesting their real objective isn't about CO2 but is about getting rid of cars.

Similar examples exist with quite a few things. Rather than fixing the claimed problem, they want a very specific solution and no other solution will do.
 
sptrawler said:
Two wrongs don't make a right. ?
What a great system of Governments, I don't know how someone like Jacqui Lambie or Pauline Hanson would get the funding to run for office in the U.S, bring on the Republic where the rich can buy a seat and then make the rules. :roflmao:
www.theguardian.com

Why are Democratic billionaires backing white candidates over better candidates of color? | Steve Phillips

With white billionaire friends like these, progressives and Democrats are likely to lose political power and also set back the cause of racial justice in this country
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
From the article:
The 2022 Democratic primaries have seen a surge of white billionaires, ostensibly Democrats, throwing their weight – and their money – around to try to boost the fortunes of hand-picked, under-qualified white men running against candidates of color. They are doing this despite the candidates of color often being more experienced and better suited to both win and govern in a period of fractious racial conflict where democracy itself is under ferocious attack. With white billionaire friends like these, progressives and Democrats are likely to lose political power and also set back the cause of racial justice in this country.
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my views on the Democrats ( and the ALP ) align with those of Malcolm X

maybe the major problem of US politics , is the need for funding by successful candidates ( followed by vote-rigging in both major parties an important second )
 
Smurf1976 said:
Common sense tells me that altering the composition of the earth's atmosphere is likely to cause some effect on something. Chance the input and there's going to be some change in output.

The detail, however, is far more complex and the one thing we know with certainty about the earth's climate is that we don't fully understand it.

The big problem is that what ought to be an area of scientific study and practical response has been hijacked for purely political purposes. As an example of that, take cars. The problem, if we accept as a given from here on for the purpose of this example that CO2 is a problem, is the CO2 emissions from the car's exhaust. That's the problem and so the fix requires that we stop those CO2 emissions by some means. How we do that, how we stop the CO2 being released, doesn't matter so long as it works and isn't causing some other serious problem in itself.

Trouble is however, more than a few won't accept any approach that doesn't involve simply getting rid of cars altogether as the means of doing it, suggesting their real objective isn't about CO2 but is about getting rid of cars.

Similar examples exist with quite a few things. Rather than fixing the claimed problem, they want a very specific solution and no other solution will do.
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and you can add the "You will not eat meat" in the same wagon etc.
Everyone with a bit of basic scientific knowledge knows that there is always a counter "force" to any action in the natural world/physics
Anything else would have been unstable from the start.
So any increase of CO2 for example, in the atmosphere would be mitigated by some counteraction:
increased plant growth is one...we have had eons of massive sudden CO2 release in the past via volcanic activity, and current CO2 levels are still very very low, more than 10 times (aka 1000%) lower than during the creation of these coal beds when earth was a garden of eden;
So 500 times the famous 2% threshold before going in an unknown red zone...We will never recover enough fossil fuels to even remotely reach that stage
We should be more focused on the actual number of human on earth than these CO2 target.As these extra human consume more of everything.
Or the fact we pollute the ice poles reducing reflection, replace green forests by bitumen and cements or cities etc etc

But that is where wealth can be made, by consumption unit so the Reset is not keen on that

Reduce consumption of oil and coal, sure but not by replacing these by another cycle of limited resource extraction (lithium) with the expected power play, pollution etc...yet that way is the path to riches again for the Masters.
Anyway the WEF chairman and Bill Gate are at G20...Anyone wondering why? I wonder if Pfizer boss got an invite and award too, and Greta? And Angelina Jolie? Or the new Khaki Steve Job
 
yes i am in favor of the earth ( and life ) evolving by itself

now sure mankind can help by being smarter , but controlling in to micro-managerial level , REALLY ??

you just know nature will find some curve-balls and black swans to unleash
 
JohnDe said:
The world has had one before, the Roman Empire was basically a world government.

Roman Power
A Thousand Years of Empire
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World government eh?

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this mob want to control EVERYBODY

the Romans probably had no idea Asia or the Americas existed

but that doesn't mean the Roman Empire has no valuable lessons to teach ( like clipping the currency as a hidden inflation )
 
Smurf1976 said:
Common sense tells me that altering the composition of the earth's atmosphere is likely to cause some effect on something.
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Not necessarily common sense but research which was initiated in the 1850's thanks to Eunice Foote.

theconversation.com

Scientists understood physics of climate change in the 1800s – thanks to a woman named Eunice Foote

The results of Foote’s simple experiments were confirmed through hundreds of tests by scientists in the US and Europe. It happened more than a century ago.
theconversation.com theconversation.com
 
JohnDe said:
Yes, at the time that was the pretty much the whole world. No jet liners, no phones or internet.
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You still had Wayne's Germanic ancestors causing trouble (and probably mine and his Scottish and Irish ones). ;)
 
The Phoenicians gave them a bit of stick too.

And let's not forget the Hans were over there minding their own business, expanding their own empire.

In fact the known world, as it were, is very euro-centric viewpoint to be fair.
 
Andrew reelected in Victoria.
Assuming the results were not rigged, a big ask nowadays, how the hell can this happen?
The Reset is here.if such a leader can be reelected, by votes, in the West, democracy has failed
And this is not a right or left issue, this is a fundamental freedom, democracy and western principles failure.
Poor Australia/Australians,the future is grim....
 
qldfrog said:
Andrew reelected in Victoria.
Assuming the results were not rigged, a big ask nowadays, how the hell can this happen?
The Reset is here.if such a leader can be reelected, by votes, in the West, democracy has failed
And this is not a right or left issue, this is a fundamental freedom, democracy and western principles failure.
Poor Australia/Australians,the future is grim....
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I'm no Andrew's fan or supporter, but how can you hint at electoral fraud and say that democracy has failed because he has been re-elected?

Blind Freddy could see that the Victorian Labor Party was going to win the election.

The Victorian voters have done their homework, they looked at their own circumstances, their states economy and compared it with the rest of the country and the world, looked at their local candidates, and voted.

Losers cry, winners are grinners. That is democracy.

State of the States
State and Territory Economic Performance Report
 
qldfrog said:
Andrew reelected in Victoria.
Assuming the results were not rigged, a big ask nowadays, how the hell can this happen?
The Reset is here.if such a leader can be reelected, by votes, in the West, democracy has failed
And this is not a right or left issue, this is a fundamental freedom, democracy and western principles failure.
Poor Australia/Australians,the future is grim....
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So sorry but the actual vote was not rigged. Was at the Count myself to make sure. As a scrutineer.

There are a lot of factors that help Labor as in Graft, Legislation and corruption.
Don't diss the Vote. It is a true reflection of the community of the day.
 
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