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UMike said:
So sorry but the actual vote was not rigged. Was at the Count myself to make sure. As a scrutineer.

There are a lot of factors that help Labor as in Graft, Legislation and corruption.
Don't diss the Vote. It is a true reflection of the community of the day.
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I'm certain the "opposition" was intentionally weakened - with the purpose of gifting andrews&co another term.
Selecting a guaranteed loser, a political impotent as their leader, piss weak attempts and so many missed opportunities - Libs either didn't want it or got a pallet of Aldi bags the pave the way. At the end, the UN/WEF won't let a circus for silly plebs get in the way.
 
SneakyOne said:
I'm certain the "opposition" was intentionally weakened - with the purpose of gifting andrews&co another term.
Selecting a guaranteed loser, a political impotent as their leader, piss weak attempts and so many missed opportunities - Libs either didn't want it or got a pallet of Aldi bags the pave the way. At the end, the UN/WEF won't let a circus for silly plebs get in the way.
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It almost seems like the only logical explanation as to how crap they were/are.

Once again it seems doubly so here in WA. Zac Kirkup was laughable and was more like Adam Bandt than any member of the Liberal Party of Australia.

Telling, that the Nationals are senior coalition partner here now.
 
SneakyOne said:
I'm certain the "opposition" was intentionally weakened - with the purpose of gifting andrews&co another term.
Selecting a guaranteed loser, a political impotent as their leader, piss weak attempts and so many missed opportunities - Libs either didn't want it or got a pallet of Aldi bags the pave the way. At the end, the UN/WEF won't let a circus for silly plebs get in the way.
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the Libs have been weak for years ( stale dish-water weak ) look at the current Federal mob and the QLD mob and what happened to the WA , where any half decent National party leader would have got a landslide ( not a mud-bath )
 
divs4ever said:
the Libs have been weak for years ( stale dish-water weak ) look at the current Federal mob and the QLD mob and what happened to the WA , where any half decent National party leader would have got a landslide ( not a mud-bath )
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Yes, both fed and state. And - it must be just a coincidence all Western countries "elect" socialist-woke globalist "leaders" too.
 
What's the basis in the support for a Great Reset and Leftist/Socialists governments gaining traction as the Right moves further Left, if that is correct. Has the West generally become wealthy enough that we think redistributing our wealth and creating welfare states is simply now within our means to do so?
 
SneakyOne said:
Yes, both fed and state. And - it must be just a coincidence all Western countries "elect" socialist-woke globalist "leaders" too.
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depends on how you define coincidence , a lot of the damage is done at pre-selection level , where candidates that ' toe the party line ' is a strongly preferred trait , look at how many times Bernie Sanders has been robbed of a real chance at US President

there would have been examples of that throughout Australia as well

some suggest media moguls have a big say in the pre-selection ( and election advertising ) process , but there might be others as well
 
SneakyOne said:
I'm certain the "opposition" was intentionally weakened - with the purpose of gifting andrews&co another term.
Selecting a guaranteed loser, a political impotent as their leader, piss weak attempts and so many missed opportunities - Libs either didn't want it or got a pallet of Aldi bags the pave the way. At the end, the UN/WEF won't let a circus for silly plebs get in the way.
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Mate.... The political elite seem to think Small target is the answer. There is no intentional conspiracy.

Everyone has learn't from the Shorten saga.
Problem is it only works for the left. The Centre or the Right actually have to get out there and explain their stance. Explain to these First world ingnorants why Woke obsession will lead to the downfall of this country.
 
UMike said:
Mate.... The political elite seem to think Small target is the answer. There is no intentional conspiracy.

Everyone has learn't from the Shorten saga.
Problem is it only works for the left. The Centre or the Right actually have to get out there and explain their stance. Explain to these First world ingnorants why Woke obsession will lead to the downfall of this country.
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maybe not ,

now , maybe it is just my social circle , but it has accumulated several former union members that now despise the unions ( and ALP ) after various workplace betrayals , i suspect it is only a matter of time before some 'Woke' actually awaken as well

will this nation be involved in a downward spiral , yes i believe that trend is active ... but will it succeed ?
 
People are too complacent.
Too many on handouts.

Only a Great Financial reality will awaken them.

Labors new Industrial regulations with only endear them to the ignorant.
 
UMike said:
People are too complacent.
Too many on handouts.

Only a Great Financial reality will awaken them.

Labors new Industrial regulations with only endear them to the ignorant.
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it is interesting to see how those regulations are circumvented in LARGE corporations ( especially under ALP governments at state and federal levels ) , so yes the ignorant get gouged twice over ( the poor things )
 
Sean K said:
What's the basis in the support for a Great Reset and Leftist/Socialists governments gaining traction as the Right moves further Left, if that is correct. Has the West generally become wealthy enough that we think redistributing our wealth and creating welfare states is simply now within our means to do so?
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Certainly the west is wealthier but the the disparity between rich and poor has never been greater which is a real concern for the general stability of political systems. I don't see any redistribution.

Wealth is power money buys influence and the imbalances are clear this applies regardless who is in power.

As for where the political balance lays simple tests show its a long way right of center.

The US is a long way from a left or welfare state with still no universal heath care (health care bankruptcy is still a thing) poverty low wages with little or no regulation, ultra religious right Supreme Court, democrat's hold the senate and presidency but big money and the right run policy.
 
but a LOT of ' BIG money ' is supporting the Woke/WEF agenda , and the other question to ask is how much of the 'anti-Woke' is controlled opposition , helping to drag the masses into a new 'two-party paradigm '
 
The Poor get free money and are dependent on welfare. They know they are poor but are lazy for the free handouts. Middle class are relatively ignored.
The rich use the system to maintain the status quo.

The enemy is Debt. Once out of control the Poor will have handouts reduced while the rich will be asked out of proportion to repay. Middle class will still be enslaved.

This is the result. A great Rest resulting in solidifying the current state.
 
UMike said:
The Poor get free money and are dependent on welfare. They know they are poor but are lazy for the free handouts. Middle class are relatively ignored.
The rich use the system to maintain the status quo.

The enemy is Debt. Once out of control the Poor will have handouts reduced while the rich will be asked out of proportion to repay. Middle class will still be enslaved.

This is the result. A great Rest resulting in solidifying the current state.
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normally the middle-class get pummeled and pillaged until they are the poorest of the poor ( just in case they had something stashed , but undiscovered )
 
IFocus said:
Certainly the west is wealthier but the the disparity between rich and poor has never been greater which is a real concern for the general stability of political systems. I don't see any redistribution.

Wealth is power money buys influence and the imbalances are clear this applies regardless who is in power.

As for where the political balance lays simple tests show its a long way right of center.

The US is a long way from a left or welfare state with still no universal heath care (health care bankruptcy is still a thing) poverty low wages with little or no regulation, ultra religious right Supreme Court, democrat's hold the senate and presidency but big money and the right run policy.
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The redistribution will be FROM the middle class, IOW us on this forum ( if we don't wake the @#_& up)
 
wayneL said:
The redistribution will be FROM the middle class, IOW us on this forum ( if we don't wake the @#_& up)
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i suspect SOME who consider themselves ' filthy rich ' maybe disappointed as well ( taxed into oblivion to sell the 'equality ' narrative , until the plan is complete )

but time will tell

now the question is .. which strategy will the 'minnows' use , the huge mega-mass or the small low-profile ( 'invisible ' ) strategy or a mixture of both .

the small target can be helpful by gleaning morsels of information not willingly shared , cyber-security guys will understand what i mean there
 
wayneL said:
The redistribution will be FROM the middle class, IOW us on this forum ( if we don't wake the @#_& up)
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Maybe, in the US (one of with the lowest number for middle income, Denmark / Norway among highest) shrinking middle class simply wont supply the revenue.
When the middle class is small it bodes ill for political stability as seen presently in the US if it all blows up redistribution will be the least of the problems.
 
divs4ever said:
now , maybe it is just my social circle , but it has accumulated several former union members that now despise the unions ( and ALP ) after various workplace betrayals , i suspect it is only a matter of time before some 'Woke' actually awaken as well
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Perhaps just a reflection of my own social circle but those who stereotypically would be expected to be in the "woke" category are the ones who firmly reject it and vice versa.

Men in traditionally male occupations who are all in on the social stuff.

A female couple both of whom will quickly point out that their personal relationship is none of anyone's business and especially not government's, they're very firmly to the Left in that regard, but that the economic stuff is just getting ridiculous as is some of the sillier social stuff.

Just because someone might seem a perfect "woke" fit due to personal factors, doesn't mean they don't see problems with the economics and for that matter some of the social stuff too. Someone can certainly be progressive in a traditional sense on social issues but that doesn't mean they're all in with voodoo economics or extreme social ideas. :2twocents
 
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