Australian Federal Election - 2022

[sptrawler]

I certainly hope Albo holds it together, the ABC are starting to print nonsense, which isn't a good sign.
Why does he have to give costings, until he is ready to, move on to another question rather than harp on, it would do anyone's head in.
There isn't a law that says he has to give costings, just because journalists ask for them, if it is better to release them next Thursday why wouldn't he? Stupid media IMO

Frustrated Albanese had just one answer for the media — whatever the question

Facing repeated questions about what Labor's plans would do to the budget if it was to win the election, an irritated Albanese was in no mind to answer variations of the question with any substance, writes Brett Worthington.

www.abc.net.au

A frustrated Opposition Leader had one answer for the media travelling with him on Tuesday.

It basically boils down to: See you next Thursday.

"Our costings will be outlined on Thursday," Anthony Albanese repeatedly offered before calling quits to his press conference after 12 minutes of questions.

Thursday. Thursday. Thursday.

Facing repeated questions about what Labor's plans would do to the budget if it was to win the election, an irritated Albanese was in no mind to answer variations of the question with any substance.

 

[PZ99]

Thats it. Regional areas are mostly only good for farmers or miners.

It all comes down to more opportunities and it isn't just Sydney / Melbourne...

One example - an employee from a Gold Coast car parts outlet was suspended from work because he forcibly recovered a part from some womans' pram that she stole from the shop.

The next day he got the same job from a competitor employer. It's that kind of income security you need to pay the bills so that's why so many people work in these areas.

Where I live in Sydney I can walk to everything I need including a hospital, medical centre, 3 forms of public transport, Supermarket, 24/7 groceries, Officeworks... the whole shebang. Can ever score a quickie in the mall at will

More to the point though, I have thousands of people in my network because I've worked with so many people in the factories (do a google view of Eastern Creek and then double the number of factories because they are going up quicker than you can say "gimme a job ya poor rich fat skinny bastard"

When I bought this place during the last year of the Howard govt the housing market was relatively "unaffordable" and made worse with increasing interest rates just like it is now. It didn't take long before I needed an income boost. One phone call and a month later I had a second job and happy days.

Even in the late 80's it was the same. If you wanna work you go to the big smoke but it'll cost ya.

It will never change unless maybe we kick the pollies and public servants out of Canberra and force them on a roadshow where they setup in the sticks for a few years and then buzz off somewhere else.

Why not? It's just a bloody circus anyways

 

[SirRumpole]

It all comes down to more opportunities and it isn't just Sydney / Melbourne...

One example - an employee from a Gold Coast car parts outlet was suspended from work because he forcibly recovered a part from some womans' pram that she stole from the shop.

The next day he got the same job from a competitor employer. It's that kind of income security you need to pay the bills so that's why so many people work in these areas.

Where I live in Sydney I can walk to everything I need including a hospital, medical centre, 3 forms of public transport, Supermarket, 24/7 groceries, Officeworks... the whole shebang. Can ever score a quickie in the mall at will

More to the point though, I have thousands of people in my network because I've worked with so many people in the factories (do a google view of Eastern Creek and then double the number of factories because they are going up quicker than you can say "gimme a job ya poor rich fat skinny bastard"

When I bought this place during the last year of the Howard govt the housing market was relatively "unaffordable" and made worse with increasing interest rates just like it is now. It didn't take long before I needed an income boost. One phone call and a month later I had a second job and happy days.

Even in the late 80's it was the same. If you wanna work you go to the big smoke but it'll cost ya.

It will never change unless maybe we kick the pollies and public servants out of Canberra and force them on a roadshow where they setup in the sticks for a few years and then buzz off somewhere else.

Why not? It's just a bloody circus anyways

It's also about circles of acquaintances. Unless you have friends n the bush sticking with the people you know is attractive.

Most people don't tend to move far from where they grew up, went to school and where their friends are.

Regional people are a fairly insular group, the old story that you have to be in an area for 20 years before you 'belong' there is not just a myth.

 

[sptrawler]

It's also about circles of acquaintances. Unless you have friends n the bush sticking with the people you know is attractive.

Most people don't tend to move far from where they grew up, went to school and where their friends are.

Regional people are a fairly insular group, the old story that you have to be in an area for 20 years before you 'belong' there is not just a myth.

The wife and I moved about quite a bit, her father was a teacher, so as a child she lived in a lot of small country towns, including Denham and the Cocos Islands 60 years ago.
I came here as a kid and the old man moved to the mining towns when they opened up in the late 1960's, since we have been married we have moved seven times, with a load of kids in tow. ?

 

[SirRumpole]

The wife and I moved about quite a bit, her father was a teacher, so as a child she lived in a lot of small country towns, including Denham and the Cocos Islands 60 years ago.
I came here as a kid and the old man moved to the mining towns when they opened up in the late 1960's, since we have been married we have moved seven times, with a load of kids in tow. ?

And how did you find settling into new places ?

 

[wayneL]

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The wife and I moved about quite a bit, her father was a teacher, so as a child she lived in a lot of small country towns, including Denham and the Cocos Islands 60 years ago.
I came here as a kid and the old man moved to the mining towns when they opened up in the late 1960's, since we have been married we have moved seven times, with a load of kids in tow. ?

Only 7?

Jeez, you have a bit of catching up to do

 

[sptrawler]

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Only 7?

Jeez, you have a bit of catching up to do

Yes I was lucky I scored my dream job in my 30's, I was certainly sick of moving house with four kids by then.
The only good thing about moving is, it makes you get rid of $hit you've been hording, I really need to move again.

 

[sptrawler]

And how did you find settling into new places ?

Back in the 60's and 70's in the mining towns in my early teens, it was interesting, I would get into a lot of fights because I was a pommie bar$tard. The upside was the girls found my accent nice, so I did o.k with them, but that led to a lot more fights with the guys.
So my memories were fighting, having a hell of a lot of fun and a lot more fighting. ?

Having said that, usually after a blue they became your best mates, I've still got friends who I drop in and see when I'm up the bush and I might not have seen them for 30-40 years, people seemed to be a lot more genuine back then, they spoke their mind and that was it.
If you had a similar point of view you got on, if you didn't well you just didn't gravitate around them, but generally everyone found their clique.

As the 1980's came around, travel became easier, cars, planes, mining booms and W.A became a lot more multicultural so now no one is an oddity.

I didn't have trouble settling into new places, with me I can't be bothered with crap, I say what I think, people either love me or hate me. I found that approach kind of sorted out where you fitted in really quickly, so you made friends with like minded people and those that didn't like you didn't seek your company.

 

[Smurf1976]

But this is about the response to a crisis as distinct from its cause or nature.

In my lifetime I cannot think of more measures from government at both levels that were as fiscally damaging, socially disruptive, and closed international and domestic borders.

Agree that the response was far from ideal in all sorts of ways.

Politically though, blame is extremely relevant and doubly so when it's widely known that most countries had a far from perfect response.

China's still having lockdowns today.

The UK and US, the most obvious comparisons many Australians will make, both ended up with a large death toll.

ScoMo's akin to the ineffective firefighter who couldn't put out a small bonfire. He does however have the advantage that everyone knows he's not the arsonist.

I'm no fan of him but the reality that there's any chance at all of the Coalition being re-elected says quite a bit. It ought to be a walk in the park for Labor to win but in practice it seems at least reasonably close.

 

[Smurf1976]

(Is it Morrisons genius? He was a marketing guy.)

Pick any industry that sells something directly to the general public. Anything from private schools to fast food.

Who achieves the greatest volume of sales?

Vary rarely is it whoever has the best product. Rather, it's whoever has the best marketing.

Music's a good example there. Find the most commercially successful singers. Now find the technically best singers. We all know they're not the same people.

Or just look at the composition of parliament. It's disproportionately filled with people from careers where the ability to sell an argument has at least some relevance and where the ability to stall is a key skill. Law, unions, media etc. It's not filled with those from scientific fields who seek the truth and it's not filled with tradies or small shop owners for whom success requires getting things done.

 

[sptrawler]

Probably the wrong thread, but it gave me a laugh.
IMO this shows the age of entitlement, the telco's complaining that they have to fund some of the infrastructure that brings them greater returns. Before the NBN ADSL2 was costing me $30/mth, the taxpayer puts in the NBN and now I have to pay $60/mth to the telco for the same service. Nice.
Maybe the taxpayer should just pay for all the Telco's service upgrades ?

Telcos frustrated the Coalition is using private-sector millions to promote infrastructure projects

Some of Australia's largest telecommunications companies are frustrated the Coalition is dragging them in to its re-election bid, with the government trumpeting 100 infrastructure investments during the campaign which are partly funded by private companies.

www.abc.net.au

Some of Australia's largest telecommunications companies are frustrated the Coalition is dragging them into its re-election bid, with the government trumpeting 100 infrastructure investments which are partly funded by private companies.
Industry sources have told the ABC there are serious concerns about the management of the latest round of the Regional Connectivity Program (RCP), which the Commonwealth is funding to the tune of $140 million.
Telstra is the biggest private financial backer, funding 63 of the projects at a cost of $30.6 million.

The company told the ABC it also helped convince state governments and other stakeholders to chip in $22.6 million.

 

[sptrawler]

I'm not sure that headline is well presented. You would think the editor would seperate the articles a bit.

 

[PZ99]

I'm not sure that headline is well presented. You would think the editor would seperate the articles a bit.


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I dunno... how about "PM disliked by only 36% of voters"

 

[The Triangle]

Need to have a 3rd option 'Scomo, but only because I'm terrified of a Green-Labor alliance'

 

[Mohammed Hazabig'un]

What's the concenus wrt the ASX200 on who wins? If LNP wins, a bit of "lead in the pencil" for the ASX200, a drop if Labor wins? A drop if minority Government?

 

[SirRumpole]

What's the concenus wrt the ASX200 one who wins? If LNP wins, a bit of "lead in the pencil" for the ASX200, a drop if Labor wins? A drop if minority Government?

Not much change either way probably. The market finds its own level.

Might drop a bit if hung Parliament due to uncertainty but overseas factors will likely dominate.

 

[Mohammed Hazabig'un]

Not much change either way probably. The market finds its own level.

Might drop a bit if hung Parliament due to uncertainty but overseas factors will likely dominate.

I've got 100k on the ASX200 going south, so I'm hoping the Greens or Pauline Hanson get in

 

[Mohammed Hazabig'un]

Anthony Green has it for the Coalition atm. I can't remember the name of the other poll that is supposed to be the most accurate.

 

[PZ99]

I'm sticking with the prediction I made a month ago..

1.5% swing to Labor. Coalition 73 and Labor 72 seats. Rest-of-the-World 6 seats. Hung parliament.

It's worth noting the Coalition historically do well with postal votes and they are nearly twice as high as they were in 2019.

No reaction in the ASX apart from world markets which will probably be steady on Monday.

 

[SirRumpole]

I'm sticking with the prediction I made a month ago..

1.5% swing to Labor. Coalition 73 and Labor 72 seats. Rest-of-the-World 6 seats. Hung parliament.

It's worth noting the Coalition historically do well with postal votes and they are nearly twice as high as they were in 2019.

No reaction in the ASX apart from world markets which will probably be steady on Monday.

In that case it comes down to how many of the Independents each side can rely on.

What do you reckon ?