Australian Federal Election - 2022

[PZ99]

Oppositions rarely win elections, Governments lose them.

It's always been so.

The Howard government got tired, 'mean and tricky' and that describes the current one as well.

The difference is the Coalition always gain ground during election campaigns

Even the Howard govt picked up a lot of ground in 2007 and almost won the next election because of the "real" Julia Gillard and then totally cleaned up after that despite being led by a dill that lasted half a term.

There is something seriously wrong with Labor's preparation and a lot of it has to do with homework.

 

[SirRumpole]

The difference is the Coalition always gain ground during election campaigns

Even the Howard govt picked up a lot of ground in 2007 and almost won the next election because of the "real" Julia Gillard and then totally cleaned up after that despite being led by a dill that lasted half a term.

There is something seriously wrong with Labor's preparation and a lot of it has to do with homework.

Yes I think you are right. Big on the grand plan but less so on the detail.

Let's hope they sharpen up soon.

 

[sptrawler]

Oppositions rarely win elections, Governments lose them.

It's always been so.

The Howard government got tired, 'mean and tricky' and that describes the current one as well.

IMO Howard lost because Labor were sharp, Rudd was a showman and they really just presented Rudd as a younger, more in tune Howard, they basically just agreed with Howard's good policies and focused on his bad one 'work choices'.

This time Albo has not made a public appearance and is now trying to sell himself and his story in 6 weeks, two problems with that, one there is a lot of issues to cover and two he can't afford stuff ups, because he doesn't have time to fix it.

If the media trip him up again the wheels will get wobbly because Albo will have a lot riding on him and the pressure from outside the party as well as from inside will be enormous, the mean girls wont be happy, they have been on the opposition bench for a long time.

 

[SirRumpole]

IMO Howard lost because Labor were sharp, Rudd was a showman and they really just presented Rudd as a younger, more in tune Howard, they basically just agreed with Howard's good policies and focused on his bad one 'work choices'.

This time Albo has not made a public appearance and is now trying to sell himself and his story in 6 weeks, two problems with that, one there is a lot of issues to cover and two he can't afford stuff ups, because he doesn't have time to fix it.

If the media trip him up again the wheels will get wobbly because Albo will have a lot riding on him and the pressure from outside the party as well as from inside will be enormous, the mean girls wont be happy, they have been on the opposition bench for a long time.

With such a long campaign, everyone is bound to make gaffes. Morrison has made plenty, hoses, holidays , the price of bread to name a few.

What it all boils down to is the old question, "what's in it for me ?"

 

[sptrawler]

I certainly hope Albo gets in, we have had way too many egos in the last 10 years, its about time politics got back to basics rather than being a media side show.
Governments are so much better when they operate smoothly in the background IMO.

 

[moXJO]

Media: " OK Albo here's an easy question. Whats the current unemployment rate"

Albo: "It's 2pm"

 

[moXJO]

Months to polish and stuffs it up the first day.
Are the ripping bongs in the tearoom or something.

 

[wayneL]

I will bet every member of ASF knew the cash rate without even thinking about it, and probably the unemployment rate too.

Yet the alternative prime minister didn't know?

Disclaimer: I have no idea of the price of milk.

 

[SirRumpole]

I will bet every member of ASF knew the cash rate without even thinking about it, and probably the unemployment rate too.

Yet the alternative prime minister didn't know?

Disclaimer: I have no idea of the price of milk.

I was very surprised he didn't know the cash rate, it's been the same for months.

 

[sptrawler]

I'm not sure if Tanya is being helpful.

‘Elections aren’t memory tests’ Tanya Plibersek defends Anthony Albanese's mistake | ABC News​

They actually are, a P.M is constantly given politically sensitive questions and expected to know the answers on all current subjects, it was the pausing and the ahhing that toppled Abbott. He never sounded as though he was completely on top of the issue, if he was given time it was o.k, but the media don't give P.M's time.
What is the main problem Biden has? So Tanya saying it isn't a memory test, really I think she could have thought of a better out.

 

[PZ99]

I reckon they should ask Albo the very same questions tomorrow

 

[wayneL]

I'm not sure if Tanya is being helpful.

‘Elections aren’t memory tests’ Tanya Plibersek defends Anthony Albanese's mistake | ABC News​

They actually are, a P.M is constantly given politically sensitive questions and expected to know the answers on all current subjects, it was the pausing and the ahhing that toppled Abbott. He never sounded as though he was completely on top of the issue, if he was given time it was o.k, but the media don't give P.M's time.
What is the main problem Biden has? So Tanya saying it isn't a memory test, really I think she could have thought of a better out.

At least Tanya knows the definition of a woman.

Heard her on 6pr the other day and found it hard to bag her on most points, but yeah that one was a bit below par.

...and by the way, the local Liberal member still hasn't answered my emails (Hasluck).

 

[moXJO]

Lucky its early days.

Scomo is the king of the shtfight though. They found a clip of Albo stealing a speech from a movie that was doing the rounds yesterday.
Today's stuff up reinforced that image of an empty vessel. Add it to his current makeover and there's a line of attack.

He can't clam up under pressure. Scomo rolls in sht for fun. Albo seems to freeze and offer excuses when caught.

 

[Knobby22]

Lucky its early days.

Scomo is the king of the shtfight though. They found a clip of Albo stealing a speech from a movie that was doing the rounds yesterday.
Today's stuff up reinforced that image of an empty vessel. Add it to his current makeover and there's a line of attack.

He can't clam up under

Lucky its early days.

Scomo is the king of the shtfight though. They found a clip of Albo stealing a speech from a movie that was doing the rounds yesterday.
Today's stuff up reinforced that image of an empty vessel. Add it to his current makeover and there's a line of attack.

He can't clam up under pressure. Scomo rolls in sht for fun. Albo seems to freeze and offer excuses when caught.

I'm with John Howard, so what?

I don't care. This isn't a spelling bee or something. Every speech doesn't have to be totally original. We don't expect every PM to match Winston Churchill.

I would like some real questions and less stupid nothings. I would like the contenders to talk about their philosophy, not the price of milk.

There were policy announcements today. Anyone know what they were?

 

[moXJO]

I'm with John Howard, so what?

I don't care. This isn't a spelling bee or something. Every speech doesn't have to be totally original. We don't expect every PM to match Winston Churchill.

I would like some real questions and less stupid nothings. I would like the contenders to talk about their philosophy, not the price of milk.

You have a brain along with most posters on here. The masses out there are pretty easily swayed with optics.

Paint a picture and they will dribble.

 

[sptrawler]

I'm with John Howard, so what?

I don't care. This isn't a spelling bee or something. Every speech doesn't have to be totally original. We don't expect every PM to match Winston Churchill.

I would like some real questions and less stupid nothings. I would like the contenders to talk about their philosophy, not the price of milk.

It would be nice if the media thought like you.
It was clever of the SMH to get that up quickly about John Howard, at least they have Albos back.
It would have been better if Tanya had said "so what", rather than saying "it isn't a memory test". IMO

 

[moXJO]

This was the twitter post:



So obviously making Albo the "Australian Biden" is the look they are going for.

 

[SirRumpole]

This was the twitter post:



So obviously making Albo the "Australian Biden" is the look they are going for.

Biden won.

 

[wayneL]

Biden won.

Yeah but we don't have the Dominion machines here

 

[wayneL]

Savage:





It will be interesting to see how far the pendulum swings. It doesn't seem like the media sees Albo as the anointed one.