Australian Federal Election - 2022

[sptrawler]

Spot on @moXJO the current airing of dirty laundry, by both sides, just reinforces peoples low opinion of politicians in general.
If they can't even show common courteousy and dignity to each other in the same party, what are the chances of them dealing with our issues in a measured and compassionate way?
IMO politics and the media today, has just become a pig pen of human flotsam, floating around is a sea of moral filth, which is tearing down the fabric of Australian society.
Australia should change the national anthem to the song, 'What about me'
My rant for the month.

 

[wayneL]

@moXJO @sptrawler

Nail.
Head.
Hit.

I just as a society we need to start thinking about how to climb our way out this cesspit.

Unfortunately to me it seems like an abscess that just won't burst; a malodourous of self-sustaining and self-replicating purulence that is poisoning the entire of the organism.

 

[IFocus]

It is interesting, Morrison is toast mainly due to the media constant attacks,

What!!

Morrison is being attacked constantly not by the media or Labor but from his own party almost on a daily basis.

Labor rarely get a sound bite for staged announcements or attacks simply because they are squeezed out by the continuous behaviour reports on Morrison by his own side.

Liberal party MPs friggin hate him for good reason plus he has done SFA during his term except turn up late.

I take that past statement back he does do a lovely press conference some time with a very nice pamphlet and has thrown (wasted) more money at profitable companies than any Australian government past or future.

Ran Robo debt illegally to steal money off the poor sort up sums up your hero.

 

[IFocus]

Spot on @moXJO the current airing of dirty laundry, by both sides, just reinforces peoples low opinion of politicians in general.
If they can't even show common courteousy and dignity to each other in the same party, what are the chances of them dealing with our issues in a measured and compassionate way?
IMO politics and the media today, has just become a pig pen of human flotsam, floating around is a sea of moral filth, which is tearing down the fabric of Australian society.
Australia should change the national anthem to the song, 'What about me'
My rant for the month.

Don't listen to 882 am then Karen central.

 

[wayneL]

I love how the left has co-opted "Karen".

It's a bit like the word "fulsome", as currently used it bears no resemblance to the actual original meaning of the word. (Recent eg: Brendan
Murphy's recent response to Alex Antic's question regarding the definition of a woman).

But I digress...

 

[StockyGuy]

I love how the left has co-opted "Karen".

It's a bit like the word "fulsome", as currently used it bears no resemblance to the actual original meaning of the word. (Recent eg: Brendan
Murphy's recent response to Alex Antic's question regarding the definition of a woman).

But I digress...

To digress further, annoyingly once a twisted usage over time becomes established, even entering the dictionary, you look silly to those who never knew the earlier, standard meaning if you don't observe the new one.

But beware things are often more complicated. While I tend to think of fulsome as excessively flattering, Wiktionary gives three other meanings for that adjective. The very original etymology being simply "abundant".

 

[wayneL]

To digress further, annoyingly once a twisted usage over time becomes established, even entering the dictionary, you look silly to those who never knew the earlier, standard meaning if you don't observe the new one.

But beware things are often more complicated. While I tend to think of fulsome as excessively flattering, Wiktionary gives three other meanings for that adjective. The very original etymology being simply "abundant".

Well, in for a penny, in for a pound. Down the rabbit hole....

In law, and by extension in parliament and its various committees, words, and indeed punctuation have precise meanings.

Perhaps Mr Murphy should avoid words whose meaning has become somewhat nebulous... Yes, nitpicking and hair splitting in the context of the hearing mentioned, but one can imagine instances where it might matter a great deal.

I think I would have used a different word.

The thesaurus is actually quite illuminating here:

 

[IFocus]

I love how the left has co-opted "Karen".

It's a bit like the word "fulsome", as currently used it bears no resemblance to the actual original meaning of the word. (Recent eg: Brendan
Murphy's recent response to Alex Antic's question regarding the definition of a woman).

But I digress...

Would that be like "woke" or maybe "snowflake" heaven forbid...

 

[Smurf1976]

Would that be like "woke" or maybe "snowflake" heaven forbid...

Woke in its current meaning is destroying the Left much as the Right is destroying itself.

There’s plenty who’ll agree with past and ongoing Left ideals such as (for examples) action on climate change, gay marriage, equal opportunity, voluntary euthanasia of the terminally ill, unions, welfare as a safety net and so on.

Where they’ll absolutely draw the line is with the idea that a child can state their gender as “cat” or that a fictional movie made decades ago ought be banned because someone born 30 years later doesn’t like it.

Suffice to say I’ve seen a few friends and associates abandon the entire Left cause over what they see as it having become a comedic farce with that sort of stuff. It’s alienating quite a few I think.

 

[wayneL]

Would that be like "woke" or maybe "snowflake" heaven forbid...

Careful, you may be hoist by your own petard there

 

[moXJO]

Would that be like "woke" or maybe "snowflake" heaven forbid...

It's interesting that these practitioners have all but disappeared. It's similar in the US that they have hidden the "Squad" from view before midterms.

It seems being "woke" is so deeply unpopular that they have to hide it.

Similar on the right side of politics that those pushing "Freedom" are also invisible to a degree.

So it's all on in "centre land" hopefully politics sorts out in the sensible area.

 

[StockyGuy]

Well, in for a penny, in for a pound. Down the rabbit hole....

In law, and by extension in parliament and its various committees, words, and indeed punctuation have precise meanings.

Perhaps Mr Murphy should avoid words whose meaning has become somewhat nebulous... Yes, nitpicking and hair splitting in the context of the hearing mentioned, but one can imagine instances where it might matter a great deal.

I think I would have used a different word.

The thesaurus is actually quite illuminating here:View attachment 140076

Yeppers..

I don't meant to be fulsome (meaning 1. Offensive to good taste, tactless, overzealous, excessive) so, as this exchange is already fulsome (meaning 3. Marked by fullness; abundant, copious), I shall, not meaning to be fulsome (meaning 2. Excessively flattering (connoting insincerity)), declare your fulsome (meaning 4. Fully developed; mature) victory.

 

[macca]

What!!

Morrison is being attacked constantly not by the media or Labor but from his own party almost on a daily basis.

Labor rarely get a sound bite for staged announcements or attacks simply because they are squeezed out by the continuous behaviour reports on Morrison by his own side.

Liberal party MPs friggin hate him for good reason plus he has done SFA during his term except turn up late.

I take that past statement back he does do a lovely press conference some time with a very nice pamphlet and has thrown (wasted) more money at profitable companies than any Australian government past or future.

Ran Robo debt illegally to steal money off the poor sort up sums up your hero.

I think he is attacked by everyone just like most pollies, it is impossible to please everyone !

I agree that Robodebt was a disgrace, completely wrong in the way it calculated payments, it was wrong to persist with it and it should never have been defended in court, just so wrong in every way.

 

[wayneL]

Yeppers..

I don't meant to be fulsome (meaning 1. Offensive to good taste, tactless, overzealous, excessive) so, as this exchange is already fulsome (meaning 3. Marked by fullness; abundant, copious), I shall, not meaning to be fulsome (meaning 2. Excessively flattering (connoting insincerity)), declare your fulsome (meaning 4. Fully developed; mature) victory.

Appreciated that

Great laugh, thanks

 

[sptrawler]

sums up your hero.

The new left, pigeon hole people, tag them with a label, then commence the bullying.
You guys must be running some sort of school, you have the format down pat.
I don't see many in the thread, that actually make personal comments, as to who people vote or don't vote for apart from you and your mate.?
I've actually stated I was hit by robo debt and I've stated I wont be voting for Morrison and I've also stated I voted for McGowan, so why the niggle?
Just because a Government isn't to my taste, doesn't mean everything they did was appalling and it also doesn't mean that all the blame laid at their feet by the media was accurate and unbiased.
So as always, I take the pragmatic approach and vote for who I feel will offer the best options for Australia, why not keep the snide comments out?

 

[IFocus]

It's interesting that these practitioners have all but disappeared. It's similar in the US that they have hidden the "Squad" from view before midterms.

It seems being "woke" is so deeply unpopular that they have to hide it.

Similar on the right side of politics that those pushing "Freedom" are also invisible to a degree.

So it's all on in "centre land" hopefully politics sorts out in the sensible area.

Meaning of "woke" Webster Dic

: aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

The extreme right took that and poisoned it into an insult used here by many who clearly misunderstand its meaning unless you subscribe to extreme right views..

 

[wayneL]

Meaning of "woke" Webster Dic

: aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

The extreme right took that and poisoned it into an insult used here by many who clearly misunderstand its meaning unless you subscribe to extreme right views..

There is a big difference between a word like woke and a word like fulsome.

Originally woke was used in a grammatically incorrect fashion, hence subject to every liberal interpretation.

It was, and is, a slang term.

Therefore like any number of slang terms subject to a match more dynamic evolution of use and meaning.

"Fully sick" anyone?

<Edited - this part could have been wooded a little bit too strongly, apologies>

it's not correct English.

 

[SirRumpole]

Well, in for a penny, in for a pound. Down the rabbit hole....

In law, and by extension in parliament and its various committees, words, and indeed punctuation have precise meanings.

Perhaps Mr Murphy should avoid words whose meaning has become somewhat nebulous... Yes, nitpicking and hair splitting in the context of the hearing mentioned, but one can imagine instances where it might matter a great deal.

I think I would have used a different word.

The thesaurus is actually quite illuminating here:View attachment 140076

Hmm. I always thought that 'fulsome' meant a well endowed woman.

 

[wayneL]

This is a pretty good point weather the current prime minister is Lieberal, or Liebor... or other.

Especially seeing as he started talking in early Anglo Saxon. No matter what we think of the current office holder, there should be some sort of respect for the office, IMO.

 

[SirRumpole]

This is a pretty good point weather the current prime minister is Lieberal, or Liebor... or other.

Especially seeing as he started talking in early Anglo Saxon. No matter what we think of the current office holder, there should be some sort of respect for the office, IMO.

Yeah well... government decisions affect people's lives and those living in ivory towers should occasionally be reminded of the stresses that those less fortunate have to bear.

Politicians and public servants are the most coddled people in the community (apart from celebrities but they are not using public money).

They get driven around in limo's or flown around in jets at our expense and only come out to talk to the great unwashed at election time so they should have to put up with a dose of reality occasionally.