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Oh thats right you are one of Scummos quiet aussies
Tell me about his achievements in office.....kick it off with helicopters if you like
So I suppose you drive a Renault.lol
Maybe you think the right thing to do is run around kissing butt, in reality if a bad decision is made and it can be reversed it should be.
I was warming to Albo, you just keep reminding me why people vote against them, sad really when your supporters are your worst asset.lol
 
So I suppose you drive a Renault.lol
Maybe you think the right thing to do is run around kissing butt, in reality if a bad decision is made and it can be reversed it should be.
I was warming to Albo, you just keep reminding me why people vote against them, sad really when your supporters are your worst asset.lol
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So that holds true if I vote for Albo? You really are a dick.lol
Like I said, it is unfortunate that Labor has to try and rise above the bogan mentality of its supporters, which act as an anchor on its asperations.
Or I could put it another way, you have done nothing but slag of at people about how bad the Libs are and how good Labor are, how far has it got you? What is the definition of stupid, constantly trying the same thing and expecting a different result.
Maybe you could try having a mature discussion, as to the pros and cons of each parties policies.
You keep forgetting Morrison didn't win the last election. Labor lost it.
 
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So that holds true if I vote for Albo? You really are a dick.lol
Like I said, it is unfortunate that Labor has to try and rise above the bogan mentality of its supporters, which act as an anchor on its asperations.
Or I could put it another way, you have done nothing but slag of at people about how bad the Libs are and how good Labor are, how far has it got you? What is the definition of stupid, constantly trying the same thing and expecting a different result.
Maybe you could try having a mature discussion, as to the pros and cons of each parties policies.
You keep forgetting Morrison didn't win the last election. Labor lost it.

And the one before that as well.
 
So that holds true if I vote for Albo? You really are a dick.lol
Like I said, it is unfortunate that Labor has to try and rise above the bogan mentality of its supporters, which act as an anchor on its asperations.
Or I could put it another way, you have done nothing but slag of at people about how bad the Libs are and how good Labor are, how far has it got you? What is the definition of stupid, constantly trying the same thing and expecting a different result.
Maybe you could try having a mature discussion, as to the pros and cons of each parties policies.
You keep forgetting Morrison didn't win the last election. Labor lost it.
It's Saturday why arn't you at bowls
 
@ humid Just in the interest of conversation, I thought I would look up the helicopter issue you mentioned.
Apparently it isn't uncommon for Governments to cancel contracts, Kevin Rudd did exactly the same thing in 2008, on the grounds they were unsafe and not fit for purpose.

So now we move onto the Morrison cancellation, apparently the door openings are too small for the machine guns to give adequate range of movement to protect personel rope reppalling from the aircraft also they have been expensive to operate and maintain apparently.
So now they are going to do the sensible thing, bite the bullet and buy off the shelf helicopters with a proven track record, and extensive after sales service, makes sense really the Taipans probably should never have been bought in the first place.

While on the subject of cancellations we may as well get onto the subs, the French subs a Malcolm Turnbull brain fart, poor old Mal wants to be green but can't man up to the decision to go nuclear and still wants to be seen to be the man, so instead of buying off the shelf diesel subs from Japan( which Abbott had set up) he does a weird agreement with France to supply nuclear subs converted to diesel subs.
How he thought he was going to have effective deterrent subs with diesel propulsion in 2040 is anyones guess, let alone explain to people why they have to stop using fossil fueled transport, yet they are spending billions buying fossil fueled subs.
So the whole project was a disaster from go to whoa, if the contract had been continued Australia would have paid a fortune for subs that may as well be delivered straight to the tip, but many are saying that would be a better outcome, than cancelling the contract and buying clean propulsion, state of the art attack submarines which are compatible with those our allies use. Most probably think it was a sensible move.

So now we move onto your other gripes, the idiots in power, being objective and just looking at outcomes without political bias or tribalism, what has happened since the Morrison government has come into office.
Covid caused a massive shutdown of just about all aspect of our economy, how did we go from a voters perspective? Keeping in mind voters have a very short memory.
The ASX is at all time highs one year after a GFC event.
Australians have more savings now then ever before.
We have one of the lowest death rates from covid in the World.
We have one of the highest vaccination rates in the World.

So that is what Albo is up against, the things in Albo's favour are IMO, the Coalition looks completely worn out, they are riddled with scandal and there is no way the changes that are needed in our fiscal, social, agricultural and industrial spaces can be achieved by the Coalition.
So really it is just a case of it's time for change IMO.
 
The economy was shot before covid
The states have done all the heavy lifting
Tripled debt but actually doubled it before covid
Robodebt
Sportsrorts
Car park rorts
Alleged anal rapes and standard ones
Front of the queue
Wrong subs and helicopters
And the cherry no ICAC

Morrison isn’t only at war with ICAC. His goal is to maintain the appearance of democracy while destroying it, by reducing its institutions to mere shells, populated by his people.
 
The economy was shot before covid
The states have done all the heavy lifting
Tripled debt but actually doubled it before covid
Robodebt
Sportsrorts
Car park rorts
Alleged anal rapes and standard ones
Front of the queue
Wrong subs and helicopters
And the cherry no ICAC

Morrison isn’t only at war with ICAC. His goal is to maintain the appearance of democracy while destroying it, by reducing its institutions to mere shells, populated by his people.
Not to mention 11 energy policies and a climate policy written on the back of an envelope after a dressing down by world leaders including Biden and Boris.

Incompetence and cynicism wrapped into one.
 
@ humid Just in the interest of conversation, I thought I would look up the helicopter issue you mentioned.
Apparently it isn't uncommon for Governments to cancel contracts, Kevin Rudd did exactly the same thing in 2008, on the grounds they were unsafe and not fit for purpose.

So now we move onto the Morrison cancellation, apparently the door openings are too small for the machine guns to give adequate range of movement to protect personel rope reppalling from the aircraft also they have been expensive to operate and maintain apparently.
So now they are going to do the sensible thing, bite the bullet and buy off the shelf helicopters with a proven track record, and extensive after sales service, makes sense really the Taipans probably should never have been bought in the first place.

While on the subject of cancellations we may as well get onto the subs, the French subs a Malcolm Turnbull brain fart, poor old Mal wants to be green but can't man up to the decision to go nuclear and still wants to be seen to be the man, so instead of buying off the shelf diesel subs from Japan( which Abbott had set up) he does a weird agreement with France to supply nuclear subs converted to diesel subs.
How he thought he was going to have effective deterrent subs with diesel propulsion in 2040 is anyones guess, let alone explain to people why they have to stop using fossil fueled transport, yet they are spending billions buying fossil fueled subs.
So the whole project was a disaster from go to whoa, if the contract had been continued Australia would have paid a fortune for subs that may as well be delivered straight to the tip, but many are saying that would be a better outcome, than cancelling the contract and buying clean propulsion, state of the art attack submarines which are compatible with those our allies use. Most probably think it was a sensible move.

So now we move onto your other gripes, the idiots in power, being objective and just looking at outcomes without political bias or tribalism, what has happened since the Morrison government has come into office.
Covid caused a massive shutdown of just about all aspect of our economy, how did we go from a voters perspective? Keeping in mind voters have a very short memory.
The ASX is at all time highs one year after a GFC event.
Australians have more savings now then ever before.
We have one of the lowest death rates from covid in the World.
We have one of the highest vaccination rates in the World.

So that is what Albo is up against, the things in Albo's favour are IMO, the Coalition looks completely worn out, they are riddled with scandal and there is no way the changes that are needed in our fiscal, social, agricultural and industrial spaces can be achieved by the Coalition.
So really it is just a case of it's time for change IMO.
Just out of interest who ordered these seasprite choppers?
 
I wonder how much say the military hsve on defence purchases or whether its left to the accountants.
It would be interesting to know, there seems to be an awful lot of really bad purchases made, to me it seems sensible to buy what has a good track record, good backup and is compatible with your allies so that parts would be interchangeable in battle field. it would simplify the supply chain heaps.
Having said that, I was involved in a project where we had to source a plc to replace the hard wired control systems, on our engine auxilliary control panels.
We sourced a local company, to support local industry, they went broke 12 months later so that was a waste of time. :rolleyes:
 
Taxes always higher under Labor ?

No.

There are a few caveats in that article and I think there are a few other vectors apart from actual taxation rates in the near term.

I like to think of things in terms of what actions will lead to future higher taxation, whether that be imposed by Liebor, or Lieberal.

But, that paints this current LNP government as the worst ever IMO. It doesn't mean I trust Albozo et al to do any better.

We need either a/ a new solution, or b/ the most disruptive Senate this country has ever seen.

Rusted on voting will achieve neither and cement our decent into to abyss.
 
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