Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[moXJO]

That is it, that is all you have.

So lets just diagnose your statement, a stack of people who side with the beliefs of the Democrats are all corrupt because of a conspiracy.

The world is f--kd.

Its a pretty big list. Even if you just start at Hillary.

 

[IFocus]

Hard to copy and past that article for some reason. Anyway the NY times was caught out lying before. This is the mob that pushed out the conservatives and have since devolved into muckraking.

Mo the media can print what they like but the senate findings have fingered Trump and his enablers acting with Russia to influence the election BTW none of this is new.

If you want to gripe about the FBI try the opening of a case against Clinton and the email fiasco days out from the election then saying we wont take any further action.

 

[moXJO]

Mo the media can print what they like but the senate findings have fingered Trump and his enablers acting with Russia to influence the election BTW none of this is new.

If you want to gripe about the FBI try the opening of a case against Clinton and the email fiasco days out from the election then saying we wont take any further action.

Did you understand what you read?

There was no collusion even in that hack job by the Guardian.

The conclusion of the report:

After more than three years of investigation by this Committee, we can now say with no doubt, there was no collusion,” a group of six panel Republicans, including Rubio, wrote in a statement that instead accused the Democratic Party of coordinating with foreign actors to produce Steele’s dossier.

The FBI’s conduct remains under investigation by Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, who was tapped by Barr to explore the origins of the Russia probe.

A former FBI lawyer is expected to plead guilty Wednesday to falsifying a document in the Russia case. Durham is also likely to interview former CIA director John Brennan on Friday, according to a person familiar with the investigation who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Republican

Five Democratic senators — including Kamala D. Harris (Calif.), the party’s 2020 vice-presidential nominee — asserted that the report “unambiguously shows that members of the Trump Campaign cooperated with Russian efforts to get Trump elected.” Referring specifically to their findings on Manafort, the Democrats wrote, “This is what collusion looks like.”


Warner, the ranking Democrat on the panel, did not sign onto the Democrats’ dissent but noted “a breathtaking level of contacts between Trump officials and Russian government operatives that is a very real counterintelligence threat to our elections.”

Democrat

 

[dutchie]

Mo the media can print what they like

The best and most accurate statement made in this matter.
The media do print what they like whether it is true or not.
Most sane people realise that as far as Trump is concerned it is 100% (sorry I exaggerate , it's only 99.99%) lies.

 

[IFocus]

The best and most accurate statement made in this matter.
The media do print what they like whether it is true or not.
Most sane people realise that as far as Trump is concerned it is 100% (sorry I exaggerate , it's only 99.99%) lies.

Maybe Dutchie but the media are not in Trumps league when it comes to lies.

 

[sptrawler]

Sounds as though the China/U.S trade talks are off for the moment, probably a good idea to wait untill after the election, no point in organising something that may be overturned in a couple of months.

 

[dutchie]

Maybe Dutchie but the media are not in Trumps league when it comes to lies.

So, the liars, are telling you that Trump is lying.............hmmm.

 

[Knobby22]

Sounds as though the China/U.S trade talks are off for the moment, probably a good idea to wait untill after the election, no point in organising something that may be overturned in a couple of months.

Also China completely reneged on the previous deal.

 

[Knobby22]

So, the liars, are telling you that Trump is lying.............hmmm.

So the liars are telling you that the liars are telling you that Trump is lying. Hmmm.

 

[wayneL]

What I find super interesting is considering the root word being identical, liars and lying having such incongruent spelling

Truth is subjective, as are lies.

True lies?

 

[sptrawler]

Also China completely reneged on the previous deal.

Did they? it will be interesting to see what happens, at least the China issue has been re enforced with the advent of the virus.
It certainly has shown how dependent, we and many other countries are on China's good will.

 

[basilio]

True lies?

How about "alternative facts" ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_facts

 

[wayneL]

How about "alternative facts" ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_facts

I was involved in a very minor collision in a parking lot in recent months. Didn't take very long to figure out that there were alternative facts involved.

As the other party was obviously trying to preserve his no claim bonus some true lies were told.

In a strange twist I have been forced to instruct the other party's lawyers on standards of evidence, IOW heresay doesn't count.

I hope you understand the allegory, Komrade.

 

[dutchie]

So the liars are telling you that the liars are telling you that Trump is lying. Hmmm.

Absolutely.
So everyone is lying. No argument.

 

[basilio]

In a strange twist I have been forced to instruct the other party's lawyers on standards of evidence, IOW heresay doesn't count.

I hope you understand the allegory, Komrade.

Problem is Wayne "Alternative facts" was brought into the vernacular by Kellyanne Conway when she was trying to defend Sean Spicers demonstrably false statement that Donald Trumps inauguration was the "largest ever inauguration" in US history.

So "alternative facts" stand for defending a provable lie. Provable is the operative word of course.

"Alternative facts" was a phrase used by U.S. Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway during a Meet the Press interview on January 22, 2017, in which she defended White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer's false statement about the attendance numbers of Donald Trump's inauguration as President of the United States. When pressed during the interview with Chuck Todd to explain why Spicer would "utter a provable falsehood", Conway stated that Spicer was giving "alternative facts". Todd responded, "Look, alternative facts are not facts. They're falsehoods."[1]

 

[IFocus]

What I find super interesting is considering the root word being identical, liars and lying having such incongruent spelling

Truth is subjective, as are lies.

True lies?

Always admire anyone that has the full understanding of the vagaries of the English language such as my long suffering wife.
I know when I read what looks right yet hopeless generally when constructing and always happy when corrected

 

[IFocus]

Absolutely.
So everyone is lying. No argument.

Don't need the media's opinion I always know when Trump is telling lies......his lips are moving

 

[wayneL]

Problem is Wayne "Alternative facts" was brought into the vernacular by Kellyanne Conway when she was trying to defend Sean Spicers demonstrably false statement that Donald Trumps inauguration was the "largest ever inauguration" in US history.

So "alternative facts" stand for defending a provable lie. Provable is the operative word of course.

"Alternative facts" was a phrase used by U.S. Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway during a Meet the Press interview on January 22, 2017, in which she defended White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer's false statement about the attendance numbers of Donald Trump's inauguration as President of the United States. When pressed during the interview with Chuck Todd to explain why Spicer would "utter a provable falsehood", Conway stated that Spicer was giving "alternative facts". Todd responded, "Look, alternative facts are not facts. They're falsehoods."[1]

Oh bas!

Surely you cannot be that naive, Komrade?

Surely you understand allegory?

Surely if you are not that naive, surely you do not think that the rest of us are that stupid?

I understand the Komrades are that stupid to embrace an ideology that has proven to be an absolute failure over the last century and a bit. I understand that that may have jaundiced to your thinking.

But please understand, the rest of us are not as mentally challenged.

If you're blind to the alternative facts of your own poisonous subculture of murderous wet dreamers and trotskyites, that renders you a propagandist or an bloody idiot.

You choose, Komrade.

 

[ghotib]

IOW heresay doesn't count.

Well... No.

 

[wayneL]

Well... No.

I beg your pardon... *hearsay*

Correct spelling does matter.