Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[Chronos-Plutus]

If he does get in I am sure he will get his face there and it will be a logical fit and there is only room for one more.

Five phases of America:
George Washington: leading the birth of the nation;
Thomas Jefferson: sparking its westward expansion;
Abraham Lincoln: preserving the union and emancipating slaves;
Teddy Roosevelt: championing industrial innovation.
Donald Trump: I am sure we could all come up with one, the USA is likely at a turning point ( I am personally thinking something similar in wording to George Washington, maybe one word changed).

Donald Trump: Bringing America back to its founding fathers. Making America Great Again!

 

[wayneL]

Donald Trump: Bringing America back to its founding fathers. Making America Great Again!

BOOM!

But he will need another term and several hundred indictments of toxic democrats (and some republicans) to bring that about, if he is capable and has the backing.

Though I must admit, at this point it does seem a bridge too far. The swamp seems too deep.

 

[moXJO]

I'm so glad we have the Don's assurance that he didn't fish for a place on Mt Rushmore.

Donald Trump denies asking how to add face to Mount Rushmore
White House reportedly asked South Dakota official about expanding monument

Martin Belam

Mon 10 Aug 2020 22.18 AEST First published on Mon 10 Aug 2020 22.16 AEST


Donald Trump smiles in front of the Mount Rushmore National Memorial in July. Photograph: Alex Brandon/AP

Donald Trump has denied that his team ever approached South Dakota’s governor about adding his face to the iconic monument depicting four presidents at Mount Rushmore. However, he added that it sounded like a good idea.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...nies-asking-how-to-add-face-to-mount-rushmore

I'm disappointed he didn't. I would have thought that was a vote winner.
I'd also accept trumps head on the statue of liberty.

 

[basilio]

I'd also accept trumps head on the statue of liberty.

Excellent suggestion.. I'm up for sticking it on myself.
Where's the chainsaw ?

 

[Knobby22]

I'd also accept trumps head on the statue of liberty.

I'm dead against it. It would ruin the classic movie Planet of the Apes.

 

[wayneL]

Excellent suggestion.. I'm up for sticking it on myself.
Where's the chainsaw ?

Hate speech, promoting violence.

 

[IFocus]

The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055. If America’s first president, George Washington, famously could not tell a lie, the current one can’t recognize the truth. Inverting the words and sentiments of Abraham Lincoln, this dark troll of a man celebrates malice for all, and charity for none.

Odious as he may be, Trump is less the cause of America’s decline than a product of its descent. As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...I2U3PO75Jd_rZJ_1AAFfsIAu93TnQfmrNKFu5xWJo7Ahc

 

[cynic]

I have such deep sorrow, knowing the disappointment, that will doubtless be felt, by many of our esteemed ASF brethren, whom, unable to obtain permits for international flight, must therefore be precluded from participation in this event:

 

[dutchie]

Hate speech, promoting violence.

Yes a bit over the top, but typical of the rabid left.

 

[dutchie]

The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055. If America’s first president, George Washington, famously could not tell a lie, the current one can’t recognize the truth. Inverting the words and sentiments of Abraham Lincoln, this dark troll of a man celebrates malice for all, and charity for none.

Odious as he may be, Trump is less the cause of America’s decline than a product of its descent. As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...I2U3PO75Jd_rZJ_1AAFfsIAu93TnQfmrNKFu5xWJo7Ahc

But please do not talk about the lies the MSM prolificates everyday.

 

[basilio]

Hate speech, promoting violence.

Ah Wayne

Are you just jealous because I didn't propose putting your head on the Statue of Liberty..

I didn't realise you cared so much..

 

[wayneL]

Ah Wayne

Are you just jealous because I didn't propose putting your head on the Statue of Liberty..

I didn't realise you cared so much..

Just playing by your own rules, Komrade

 

[basilio]

The American president lives to cultivate resentments, demonize his opponents, validate hatred. His main tool of governance is the lie; as of July 9th, 2020, the documented tally of his distortions and false statements numbered 20,055. If America’s first president, George Washington, famously could not tell a lie, the current one can’t recognize the truth. Inverting the words and sentiments of Abraham Lincoln, this dark troll of a man celebrates malice for all, and charity for none.

Odious as he may be, Trump is less the cause of America’s decline than a product of its descent. As they stare into the mirror and perceive only the myth of their exceptionalism, Americans remain almost bizarrely incapable of seeing what has actually become of their country. The republic that defined the free flow of information as the life blood of democracy, today ranks 45th among nations when it comes to press freedom.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...I2U3PO75Jd_rZJ_1AAFfsIAu93TnQfmrNKFu5xWJo7Ahc

This analysis is far more than just trashing Trump.
The overview of how empires rise and fall, where the US fits in this picture and the comparisons of US achievement vs other countries is thought provoking.

The Unraveling of America

Anthropologist Wade Davis on how COVID-19 signals the end of the American era
https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...vid-19-end-of-american-era-wade-davis-1038206/

 

[basilio]

So much for democracy and the sanctity of the vote in the US. Just been flushed .

Trump admits he's refusing to fund the US Postal Service to sabotage mail-in voting

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  • President Donald Trump told Fox Business on Thursday morning that he would block additional funding and election assistance for the US Postal Service to sabotage mail-in voting.
  • On Wednesday and Thursday, Trump said he would not sign off on any relief bill that includes emergency federal funds for the USPS and more money to process election-related mail.
  • “They want $US25 billion – billion – for the post office. Now they need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots,” Trump said on Thursday, adding, “But if they don’t get those two items, that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting.”
  • Under Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, the cash-strapped USPS has implemented cost-cutting measures that experts say could harm the delivery of election-related mail.
  • Visit Business Insider’s homepage for more stories.

President Donald Trump told Fox Business’ Maria Bartiromo on Thursday morning that he would block additional funding and election assistance for the US Postal Service to sabotage mail-in voting.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...funding-sabotage-mail-voting-2020-8?r=US&IR=T

 

[basilio]

So much for democracy and the sanctity of the vote in the US. Just been flushed .

Trump admits he's refusing to fund the US Postal Service to sabotage mail-in voting

• 
  
  
  • President Donald Trump told Fox Business on Thursday morning that he would block additional funding and election assistance for the US Postal Service to sabotage mail-in voting.
  • On Wednesday and Thursday, Trump said he would not sign off on any relief bill that includes emergency federal funds for the USPS and more money to process election-related mail.
  • “They want $US25 billion – billion – for the post office. Now they need that money in order to have the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots,” Trump said on Thursday, adding, “But if they don’t get those two items, that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting.”
  • Under Postmaster General Louis DeJoy, the cash-strapped USPS has implemented cost-cutting measures that experts say could harm the delivery of election-related mail.
  • Visit Business Insider’s homepage for more stories.

President Donald Trump told Fox Business’ Maria Bartiromo on Thursday morning that he would block additional funding and election assistance for the US Postal Service to sabotage mail-in voting.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...funding-sabotage-mail-voting-2020-8?r=US&IR=T

Riddle.

Q. How do we know when The Don is Telling the Truth ?
W. When he is boasting in public about how corrupt he is ..

 

[wayneL]

Postal voting is subject to fraud baz, end of story. Trump is absolutely correct in this.

 

[basilio]

Postal voting is subject to fraud baz, end of story. Trump is absolutely correct in this.

You and The Don don't have strong relation with the truth or reality do you Wayne ?
The only reason to undermine the postal voting in the US is to save Trumps sorry ass.

US election: Do postal ballots lead to voting fraud?
By Reality Check team

...There have been isolated cases of postal ballot fraud in the past, such as in the 2018 North Carolina primary, which was re-run after a consultant of the Republican candidate tampered with voting papers.

There was also a case earlier this year in New Jersey which saw two Democratic councillors charged with alleged fraud in relation to postal voting, after hundreds of ballots were found stuffed in a post box.

But these are rare incidents, and the rate of voting fraud overall in the US is between 0.00004% and 0.0009%, according to a 2017 study by the Brennan Center for Justice.

A voter fraud database collated by Arizona State University between 2000 and 2012, found 491 cases of postal ballot fraud out of hundreds of millions of votes.

And a Washington Post review of the 2016 election found one proven case of postal voting fraud.

Oregon has held postal elections since 2000 and has only reported 14 fraudulent votes attempted by mail.

There are provisions in place to prevent people from impersonating voters or stealing ballots - such as authorities checking that ballots have come from voters' registered address and requiring signatures on envelopes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53353404

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_voting_in_the_United_States

 

[wayneL]

So why do you think it would save Trump's "sorry ass"?

 

[basilio]

So why do you think it would save Trump's "sorry ass"?

The same reason Trump and the Republicians have repeatedly said. More voters will support Biden than Trump. So lets make it is as difficult as possible for (the wrong voters )to vote.

But speaking about mail in voter fraud consider this.

Trump tried to vote with wrong address while railing against voter fraud

Records reviewed by the Post found the president had to resubmit his application, despite railing against the vote by mail process

Donald Trump has been railing against vote by mail for the past few months – falsely citing the potential for voter fraud, which is extremely rare. As it turns out, the president himself bungled the system.

Trump registered to vote in Florida last September under his White House address – 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, according to the Washington Post. But Florida does not allow people to register to vote without an in-state address, and one month later, Trump resubmitted his application with a Florida address and voted in the Republican primary.

On his registration form, Trump told Florida officials his legal residence was in Washington DC but on another day also said he was a “bona fide resident” of Palm Beach, Florida, home to his Mar-a-Lago Club, according to the public records reviewed by the Post.

Other voters have faced significant consequences for the same mistake. In fact, as some Democrats pointed out, the same issue is listed on White House website as voter fraud.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/03/donald-trump-vote-by-mail-fraud-florida

 

[wayneL]

Maybe you can explain to me why more mail in voters would support Biden than Trump as opposed to walk-in voters?