Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[qldfrog]

The Statute of Limitations was the term I couldn’t remember. For some of the crimes he is alleged to have done, particularly in relation to bribing and coercion of Ukrainian officials, the Statute of Limitations is 5 years, thus will have expired by the end of his second term if he wins. More in the article I posted above.

are we talking about Bidden? I am confused, Bidden was the one briding the ukrainians..ohh sorry I was talking justice and laws not Trump bashing...And Bidden is clean as this is covered by Statute of Limitations in Ukraine...
Bellenuit, very disappointed...Bidden and son firing a procecutor...ahhh just old history
UNBELIEVABLE

 

[wayneL]

Perhaps because they are not as totally brain dead as people who make such calls ?

Ohhh.... the irony!!!!!

LMFAO!

 

[bellenuit]

are we talking about Bidden? I am confused, Bidden was the one briding the ukrainians..ohh sorry I was talking justice and laws not Trump bashing...And Bidden is clean as this is covered by Statute of Limitations in Ukraine...
Bellenuit, very disappointed...Bidden and son firing a procecutor...ahhh just old history
UNBELIEVABLE

Of course you are confused, that's why you believe Trump. I guess Fox News didn't run this 11 days ago:

Ukraine found no evidence against Hunter Biden in case audit: former top prosecutor

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ase-audit-former-top-prosecutor-idUSKBN23B2RB

And if Hunter Biden did nothing wrong, as pretty much everyone who worked in the US Embassy in Ukraine knew, there was no reason for his dad to offer bribes to get a prosecutor fired. But we do know Trump tried to bribe the Ukraine into throwing dirt at the Bidens, by withholding funds badly needed in its war with Russia, as well as engaging with a multitude of shady characters through his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

But, Joe Biden did try to get a prosecutor removed, along with many in the Republican party and also many European leaders, because the guy was corrupt and was stymieing efforts for reform in the Ukraine. His corruption was attested to by several of the professional diplomats and government agents that were called as witnesses in the impeachment hearings.

Ukrainian prosecutors just blew up Trump's Hunter Biden conspiracy theories: report

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/05/uk...ter-biden-conspiracy-theories-report_partner/

You really ought not to limit yourself to one news source.

 

[moXJO]

Of course you are confused, that's why you believe Trump. I guess Fox News didn't run this 11 days ago:

Ukraine found no evidence against Hunter Biden in case audit: former top prosecutor

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ase-audit-former-top-prosecutor-idUSKBN23B2RB

And if Hunter Biden did nothing wrong, as pretty much everyone who worked in the US Embassy in Ukraine knew, there was no reason for his dad to offer bribes to get a prosecutor fired. But we do know Trump tried to bribe the Ukraine into throwing dirt at the Bidens, by withholding funds badly needed in its war with Russia, as well as engaging with a multitude of shady characters through his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

But, Joe Biden did try to get a prosecutor removed, along with many in the Republican party and also many European leaders, because the guy was corrupt and was stymieing efforts for reform in the Ukraine. His corruption was attested to by several of the professional diplomats and government agents that were called as witnesses in the impeachment hearings.

Ukrainian prosecutors just blew up Trump's Hunter Biden conspiracy theories: report

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/05/uk...ter-biden-conspiracy-theories-report_partner/

You really ought not to limit yourself to one news source.

Salon is not a legit news source. Is there any other links?

 

[moXJO]

The whole Biden Ukraine thing was not cut and dry. Bit more on it here: https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/the...os-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story?amp


Something definitely went on. Same with
FBI and the Russian scandal.
Obama bugging trump.
Hillary and her private servers.
The company that was formed to assemble the "pee pee" dossier.
And all the other dodgy crap that went on.

 

[basilio]

This thread is about Donald Trump and where he is taking the US. The latest headline should give us even more concern at his credibility to lead the country. Apparently the way to beat the coronavirus is to stop looking for it.

Trump on coronavirus: 'If we stop testing right now, we'd have very few cases, if any'

President Trump on Monday downplayed concerns of a rising number of coronavirus cases in states across the country, indicating that the increase was due to more testing.

"If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any,” Trump said during a White House event highlighting administration actions to help senior citizens.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...top-testing-right-now-wed-have-very-few-cases

 

[qldfrog]

Of course you are confused, that's why you believe Trump. I guess Fox News didn't run this 11 days ago:

Ukraine found no evidence against Hunter Biden in case audit: former top prosecutor

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ase-audit-former-top-prosecutor-idUSKBN23B2RB

And if Hunter Biden did nothing wrong, as pretty much everyone who worked in the US Embassy in Ukraine knew, there was no reason for his dad to offer bribes to get a prosecutor fired. But we do know Trump tried to bribe the Ukraine into throwing dirt at the Bidens, by withholding funds badly needed in its war with Russia, as well as engaging with a multitude of shady characters through his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani.

But, Joe Biden did try to get a prosecutor removed, along with many in the Republican party and also many European leaders, because the guy was corrupt and was stymieing efforts for reform in the Ukraine. His corruption was attested to by several of the professional diplomats and government agents that were called as witnesses in the impeachment hearings.

Ukrainian prosecutors just blew up Trump's Hunter Biden conspiracy theories: report

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/05/uk...ter-biden-conspiracy-theories-report_partner/

You really ought not to limit yourself to one news source.

Seriously, my disappointment is at the level of my initial respect, and where do you think i get my info from?fox news?
Sure i am not even opening the guardian site anymore, but nor do i the Chinese paper

A clear proof rabid anti Trump can lead astray the most usually balanced person.
Obviously impossible to ever change your mind if convinced on that very subject..the epiphany of US Democrat sxxt and lies.
so no point arguing.

 

[bellenuit]

Salon is not a legit news source. Is there any other links?

Didn't you notice Reuters? And Salon was reporting a Guardian story. And if you do a web search you will find dozens of other sources. Do you need to be spoon-fed?

 

[Chronos-Plutus]

Perhaps because they are not as totally brain dead as people who make such calls ?

That's not nice Basilio. I was merely stating the facts.

Perhaps you might be able to come to the same conclusion in you looked at the American civil war/ late 19th century US presidential election maps .

Or you can have a read here: https://www.americanthinker.com/art...t_racist_history_of_the_democratic_party.html

 

[Chronos-Plutus]

Seriously, my disappointment is at the level of my initial respect, and where do you think i get my info from?fox news?
Sure i am not even opening the guardian site anymore, but nor do i the Chinese paper

A clear proof rabid anti Trump can lead astray the most usually balanced person.
Obviously impossible to ever change your mind if convinced on that very subject..the epiphany of US Democrat sxxt and lies.
so no point arguing.

You can't bring up factual recorded history with emotional people. They just fly off the handle with personal insults.

It is established fact that the Democrats were the party of the South, slavery and the KKK. It was the Republicans that fought for the freedom of black slaves.

 

[macca]

You can't bring up factual recorded history with emotional people. They just fly off the handle with personal insults.

It is established fact that the Democrats were the party of the South, slavery and the KKK. It was the Republicans that fought for the freedom of black slaves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats#:~:text=1861-1933,in rebellion to reject secession.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_Republican_Party

 

[Chronos-Plutus]

Indeed he has..
Hitler had a similar impact as did Stalin
First World War was also very effective at smashing theworlds systems.
Attila the Hun was quite impressive.
The Black Death also managed to deliver remarkable changes.

Trump in is stellar company indeed..

The Democrats were the party of the South, slavery and the KKK!

Here is the US presidential electoral map of 1860, just before the American Civil War

Red Republication
Green Southern Democrat
Blue Northern Democrat
Orange Union


Once all the dust had settled after the American Civil War; starting from the 1880 US presidential elections, you will notice a clear demarcation between the Northern Red Republican States and the Southern Blue Democrat States, signifying the racial undercurrent.

The Republicans liberated the Blacks! End of Story!

 

[Chronos-Plutus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats#:~:text=1861-1933,in rebellion to reject secession.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_Republican_Party

Sorry buddy, the US electoral map of 1860 is set in stone. The Republicans liberated the blacks and the Democrats fought to keep them enslaved!

 

[Chronos-Plutus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats#:~:text=1861-1933,in rebellion to reject secession.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States_Republican_Party

"Southern Democrats are members of the U.S. Democratic Party who reside in the Southern United States.

In the 19th century, Southern Democrats were whites in the South who believed in Jacksonian democracy. In the 1850s they defended slavery in the United States, and promoted its expansion into the West against northern Free Soil opposition."

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats)

 

[dutchie]

Biden: 'Republicans May Have Standards, But We Have Double Standards'

PHILADELPHIA, PA—During a campaign speech Tuesday, Joe Biden proudly declared that while Republicans have at least some standards, Democrats are going above and beyond with their "double standards."


Biden pointed out that by having two sets of standards, Democrats are leading the race for having the most sets of standards.

"That's two times as many standards," he said proudly. "Double is a lot more than single. Anyone who's ever watched a baseball game knows that."

https://babylonbee.com/

 

[dutchie]

Perhaps because they are not as totally brain dead as people who make such calls ?

???????

 

[IFocus]

So the story so far is......Donald is good (actually very good, the greatest) Republicans have very high moral standards (much higher than Dems)and the riots and looting are Hillary's fault.......


Just thought I would clear that up, carry on chaps.

 

[basilio]

So the story so far is......Donald is good (actually very good, the greatest) Republicans have very high moral standards (much higher than Dems)and the riots and looting are Hillary's fault.......

Just thought I would clear that up, carry on chaps.

Thanks IF. Bit of perspective.

Really silly isn't it. 160 years ago the US Democrats were the dominant party in the South and did support slavery. They were still actively racist way into the 20th Century.Think 1960's

Do we think the Republican Party were non racist during this period ? What evidence is there that Northerners were welcoming the freed slaves?

The US as a whole has a wretched attitude to racism. In 2020 the Democrats have evolved to the stage they are actively trying to redress the situation. As compared to ?

 

[basilio]

You can't bring up factual recorded history with emotional people. They just fly off the handle with personal insults.

One can with me Chronos - if in fact the history is reasonably complete, somewhat fair and relevant.
Your selection and conclusion is neither complete nor relevant to what is happening how.
The attempts to say disband the Democrats now because they were badly racist x years ago is just disingenuous.

 

[moXJO]

Well all the shooting of blacks, looting and rioting occurred in democrat controlled areas.
So yes it is all the democrats fault.
Hillary said Robert Byrd (a kkk member) was a mentor. Here's the video:



Anything else?