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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

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Going off what is posted on here, it may be a situation like Australia where everyone expects Trump to lose, so they don't have to win.
I don't know.... Bill shorten was unelectable, yet the left (and I) were certain he was going to win.

Perhaps the US factions are just as rabid as Australian ones are. Delusional all round.
 
If Biden wins then China wins the world.
My guess is most people think that, and I reckon that is what will get him over the line, but who knows. It is all good entertainment.
I find it weird that two old men are fighting to get a job, that ages people.
 
I question if Trump even wants it again.
I said this last year, the flak that he has taken, for trying to relocate the multinationals back to the U.S is unbelievable.
It isn't as though he needs the money, I'm surprised he doesn't just walk away and let the whole lot wallow in their selfishness.
I find it weird, that the people who constantly bash big business, for using third world sweat shops.
Now are at the beck and call of the very same companies, who want to keep the status quo and stop Trump's push.:D
I guess it all goes back to the old saying 'empty vessels...
 
I said this last year, the flak that he has taken, for trying to relocate the multinationals back to the U.S is unbelievable.
It isn't as though he needs the money, I'm surprised he doesn't just walk away and let the whole lot wallow in their selfishness.
I find it weird, that the people who constantly bash big business, for using third world sweat shops.
Now are at the beck and call of the very same companies, who want to keep the status quo and stop Trump's push.:D
I guess it all goes back to the old saying 'empty vessels...
I find the latest "defund police" that has actually got the go ahead in democrat controlled areas mind blowing. They are already crime ridden shtholes where police are stretched.
They then move to conservative areas once it's been ruined.
 
I find the latest "defund police" that has actually got the go ahead in democrat controlled areas mind blowing. They are already crime ridden shtholes where police are stretched.
They then move to conservative areas once it's been ruined.

Actually defunding the police would probably work in the US.
Everyone owns a gun, so everyone could do there own policing.
Would work like a charm.
It would certainly stop police systematically killing blacks.
There would be more deaths overall but think of the savings made in not having to pay for police.
 
I'm surprised he doesn't just walk away and let the whole lot wallow in their selfishness.

I question if Trump even wants it again.

He certainly doesn't want it but he has no choice. If he doesn't retain power (and assuming a democrat wins) then he loses out on being able to use presidential privilege to hide his serious misdemeanours. His tax returns will be turned over to those investigating him on many fronts, the full evidence from the Mueller report would be released, not just that that Barr deemed could be seen, he will not have indemnity from prosecution which has prevented many current cases from going forward etc. etc.

As I understand it, if he can get a second term, by the time it ends, it will be outside the timeframe for prosecution on those issues (sorry I have forgotten the correct term for this) and he doesn't go to jail. He knows a democratic president would not pardon him.
 
He certainly doesn't want it but he has no choice. If he doesn't retain power (and assuming a democrat wins) then he loses out on being able to use presidential privilege to hide his serious misdemeanours. His tax returns will be turned over to those investigating him on many fronts, the full evidence from the Mueller report would be released, not just that that Barr deemed could be seen, he will not have indemnity from prosecution which has prevented many current cases from going forward etc. etc.

As I understand it, if he can get a second term, by the time it ends, it will be outside the timeframe for prosecution on those issues (sorry I have forgotten the correct term for this) and he doesn't go to jail. He knows a democratic president would not pardon him.

That is certainly an interesting take, I've never heard it, but if it was the case don't you think he would keep a lower profile and wait out the time?
 
He certainly doesn't want it but he has no choice. If he doesn't retain power (and assuming a democrat wins) then he loses out on being able to use presidential privilege to hide his serious misdemeanours. His tax returns will be turned over to those investigating him on many fronts, the full evidence from the Mueller report would be released, not just that that Barr deemed could be seen, he will not have indemnity from prosecution which has prevented many current cases from going forward etc. etc.

As I understand it, if he can get a second term, by the time it ends, it will be outside the timeframe for prosecution on those issues (sorry I have forgotten the correct term for this) and he doesn't go to jail. He knows a democratic president would not pardon him.
I'm not so sure about that, if Biden wins, he will have forgotten who the last president even was by November 8th :laugh:
 
Anyone see Chris Pynes article in the Herald Sun?
He was in defence and so knows quite well some of Trumps staff.
Greatly concerned.
 
For me the most frustrating thing about America is that they 300m people and the best they can find to run for president are two old blokes well past their prime.

If the Dems had been honest with themselves after Trump won they would have started afresh, a completely new face/s and a new management team for Party policy.

The world needs a strong USA now more than any time in the past 20 years, China is muscling up and the only country likely to stop them is the USA.

Just like in Govt, a good opposition is needed to balance events.
 
That is certainly an interesting take, I've never heard it, but if it was the case don't you think he would keep a lower profile and wait out the time?

I'm surprised you hadn’t heard it. He can’t keep a low profile as he needs to create chaos to deflect from his COVID-19 debacle and must do his utmost to rig the elections so he can’t lose. Thus his campaign against postal votes, his constant lies, attacks on the media.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...surviving-impeachment-could-face-15039866.php

Trump, after surviving impeachment, could face charges if he loses election

 
I'm surprised you hadn’t heard it. He can’t keep a low profile as he needs to create chaos to deflect from his COVID-19 debacle and must do his utmost to rig the elections so he can’t lose. Thus his campaign against postal votes, his constant lies, attacks on the media.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politic...surviving-impeachment-could-face-15039866.php

Trump, after surviving impeachment, could face charges if he loses election
Well as I have said previously, going off the general negative postings on ASF and the media, there is no chance Trump will win the election.
 
As I understand it, if he can get a second term, by the time it ends, it will be outside the timeframe for prosecution on those issues (sorry I have forgotten the correct term for this) and he doesn't go to jail.

The Statute of Limitations was the term I couldn’t remember. For some of the crimes he is alleged to have done, particularly in relation to bribing and coercion of Ukrainian officials, the Statute of Limitations is 5 years, thus will have expired by the end of his second term if he wins. More in the article I posted above.
 
I question if Trump even wants it again.
He wants to however...there is a large portion of Republican politicians trying to ensure he doesn't run again. If they could provide a respectable replacement they could win.

I will therefore be very surprised if he is still around, come the election.

The difficulty is how do they do it? How do they make him to resign or get rid of him by other means?
 
It will be all down to his base. They were lining the streets in a recent video I saw. If the rallies get back up I think they will re-energize his supporters.

The gun shops have literally been stripped bare and it's impossible to find certain kinds of ammo. Just because you have a few hundred thousand marching, doesn't mean you have widespread support at the booth.
Business and suburbs are looking on at the riots and looting. There are talking points that will swing voters.

However, I haven't seen trump at this stage capitalise off it. At least not as feverishly as he has in the past. I don't see much enthusiasm from his corner.

These riots also took the focus off the Obama spying case that's currently being investigated.
Maybe he lost a little advantage there.

I don't think he is worried about court after he loses.
 
For me the most frustrating thing about America is that they 300m people and the best they can find to run for president are two old blokes well past their prime.

If the Dems had been honest with themselves after Trump won they would have started afresh, a completely new face/s and a new management team for Party policy.

The world needs a strong USA now more than any time in the past 20 years, China is muscling up and the only country likely to stop them is the USA.

Just like in Govt, a good opposition is needed to balance events.
Indeed, but all they could come up with was race baiters, SJW panderers, and Marxists.

To be honest I liked Tulsi, even if she was a little bit too far left for me. The fact that she got so little support really says something to me about the left in America.

Even more concerning is that the neoliberal branch at the democratic Party could only come up with a demented old fool who cannot even remember yesterday, is extremely alarming.

I think the big problem in America is that candidates feel they must appeal to the fringes, rather than the center.
 
...there is a large portion of Republican politicians trying to ensure he doesn't run again.

There is a significant proportion of Republican politicians who believe Trump has trashed the office and undermined the legitimacy of the Republician Party.

But there is no way on earth that group can overturn Trumps nominations for President.

What they have decided to do is run The Lincoln Project which has opened a Republican front against Trump in the November election. They want a vote for Biden because they they believe Trump is a menace.


We Are Republicans, and We Want Trump Defeated

The president and his enablers have replaced conservatism with an empty faith led by a bogus prophet.
https://lincolnproject.us/news/the-urgency-of-defeating-trump-falls-to-all-of-us/

 
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